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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 7 @ 10:15 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Provorov Trade Breakdown
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:20 AM ET
It’s a good trade and needed to get done. Now hart and hayes have to be focused on. I doubt sanheim or risto can be traded now
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 7 @ 10:21 AM ET
Great return for Provy. Hopefully they can add more assets before this draft.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
Wgr 550 about to talk to philly radio about hart. For those with Audacy app and interested
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
Bill, do you remember if Andrae ever paired up with Grans in their times together on Team Sweden?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
Wgr 550 about to talk to philly radio about hart. For those with Audacy app and interested
- SMS4016


Philly radio knows nothing about the Flyers.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
It’s a good trade and needed to get done. Now hart and hayes have to be focused on. I doubt sanheim or risto can be traded now
- 2Real

I don't see any significant return for Hayes if they can even find a trade partner.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 10:33 AM ET
Marvelous trade.

If couturier and Atkinson come back healthy this team makes noise.

You heard it here
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 10:35 AM ET
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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 7 @ 10:36 AM ET
Marvelous trade.

If couturier and Atkinson come back healthy this team makes noise.

You heard it here

- Just5


How does trading Provorov make them better next year?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:37 AM ET
Marvelous trade.

If couturier and Atkinson come back healthy this team makes noise.

You heard it here

- Just5



wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 10:37 AM ET
Marvelous trade.

If couturier and Atkinson come back healthy this team makes noise.

You heard it here

- Just5



not sure they will make noise but if Coots and Cam play well, the young legs in the lineup could surprise, I don't see them being a lottery team. From what I heard the and can someone chime in, the 25 draft is deeper than the 24?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 7 @ 10:40 AM ET
Marvelous trade.

If couturier and Atkinson come back healthy this team makes noise.

You heard it here

- Just5


Not with this blueline. It was already suspect and they just tore a gaping hole in what they did have. The trade had to be made. But I'm just being real about the short-term. They've taken a step backward in the hopes of stepping forward in the big picture.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 7 @ 10:41 AM ET
not sure they will make noise but if Coots and Cam play well, the young legs in the lineup could surprise, I don't see them being a lottery team. From what I heard the and can someone chime in, the 25 draft is deeper than the 24?
- wcorvette


Too far off to assess right now.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 7 @ 10:42 AM ET
agree about the hit to the blue line. Not sure why so many were down on Provie, but glad to get some picks back. next year we may be picking high again and just hope florida has a hangover so their pick looks better.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 7 @ 10:43 AM ET
Bill, do you remember if Andrae ever paired up with Grans in their times together on Team Sweden?
- Tomahawk


Yes, they were paired.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 7 @ 10:47 AM ET
agree about the hit to the blue line. Not sure why so many were down on Provie, but glad to get some picks back. next year we may be picking high again and just hope florida has a hangover so their pick looks better.
- Peter Richards

Not sure why? Maybe the unforced turnovers and developmental wall and step back the guy took. He needs a new team, he peaked here and it wasn’t near what was expected. Perfect time to trade him
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 7 @ 10:52 AM ET
Just curious what others think. If Montreal offered 5 for Hart would you do it. One for one. Player for pick.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 7 @ 10:52 AM ET
Not with this blueline. It was already suspect and they just tore a gaping hole in what they did have. The trade had to be made. But I'm just being real about the short-term. They've taken a step backward in the hopes of stepping forward in the big picture.
- bmeltzer


The unrealistic expectations have begun. As you said, this is not about this year. Indeed, apart from continuing the development of the kids, the Flyers would do well to (and should be expected to) have another down year.

If Cam Atkinson is proven to be healthy, he needs to be high on the list of Flyers to trade for assets. Probably at the trade deadline but a little more difficult since he has another year on his contract.



Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
Just curious what others think. If Montreal offered 5 for Hart would you do it. One for one. Player for pick.
- J35Bacher


In a HART beat
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
In a HART beat
- Glak18

Lmao, I’d drive him there
GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 10:57 AM ET
By adding the 22nd pick, I, personally, become more inclined to swing for the fences if Michkov is still available. Additionally, that may give the Flyers more leverage with Washington or Detroit if either is inclined to flip picks if they're more confident about their ability to bring him over than Briere would be.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 7 @ 11:00 AM ET
In a HART beat
- Glak18



I was just curious.

Some people I get the sense want a big haul but I just want quality return.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 11:02 AM ET
Just curious what others think. If Montreal offered 5 for Hart would you do it. One for one. Player for pick.
- J35Bacher


But what about this scenario:

#7, #22 and Hart for #2.

Would the Flyers do it? Would Anaheim do it?

Flyers only get 1 player, but that could be a franchise center for them or knowing their luck he stays in college then leaves or becomes a bust...

Anaheim has a lot of young forwards already, not to mention they also have a decent crop of young defensemen. Also include they trade Gibson, which they receive a decent package for. Anaheim could be really scary with depth and a younger goaltender that fits better with their team.

It's a tough one.


Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 7 @ 11:04 AM ET
I was just curious.

Some people I get the sense want a big haul but I just want quality return.

- J35Bacher


The highest pick a goalie has gone for "recently" was 9th-overall, and that was Schneider throwing up .930's at the time.

Hart's a .907 goalie.
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