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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 13 @ 10:46 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins take first of three against Rangers this week Penguins take first of three against Rangers this week
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 13 @ 11:16 AM ET
Quite a boner you guys have. Didn’t watch the game but I’m sure Carter did just fine.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 11:20 AM ET
Quite a boner you guys have. Didn’t watch the game but I’m sure Carter did just fine.
- Grinder47


hahahah the only boner around here is your Crater boner...how do you defend someone that A: you didn't watch at all B: who obviously couldn't play defense himself with those kind of stats and C: doesn't produce any offense on top of not being able to defend well?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 13 @ 11:20 AM ET
Although it's a short sample size, Nylander looks like he belongs in the NHL. Maybe if management gave him a look earlier, they could have avoided some of their recent mistakes.

They could have sprinkled Nylander, Puustinen and O'Conner throughout the lineup this season for less than they paid Kap. You don't have to play them all at the same time, but at the very least give them a chance to see if they can play at the level. If they can't, you can bring in help at the TDL.

Again... So sick of this management team with their antiquated mindset. For them, winning isn't as important as preserving ego's.




SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
To me, there isnt a huge difference between 3 seed in the Metro and the 1st wild card. the devils and hurricanes could flip flop places in the standings so if you want one or the other, 3rd place isnt certain to get you the matchup. Id prefer New Jersey, but both matchups would be difficult.

The key is avoiding the 2nd wildcard.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
Although it's a short sample size, Nylander looks like he belongs in the NHL. Maybe if management gave him a look earlier, they could have avoided some of their recent mistakes.

They could have sprinkled Nylander, Puustinen and O'Conner throughout the lineup this season for less than they paid Kap. You don't have to play them all at the same time, but at the very least give them a chance to see if they can play at the level. If they can't, you can bring in help at the TDL.

Again... So sick of this management team with their antiquated mindset. For them, winning isn't as important as preserving ego's.

- madmike71


Its all maddening stuff....perhaps the crowd at PPG Paints should of chanted Fire Hextall! a few months ago...or in October hahah
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
Its all maddening stuff....perhaps the crowd at PPG Paints should of chanted Fire Hextall! a few months ago...or in October hahah
- MattStrat


I think Sully is equally complicit. I still think he's a good coach, but he displays all the tendencies of someone who's stale and comfortable. In the corporate world, he would have been fired or moved to a different position 3 years ago. I'd hire him in a heartbeat for another team. I have no delusions he'll be fired so I hope they bring in a strong GM to insist on some changes.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 11:32 AM ET
To me, there isnt a huge difference between 3 seed in the Metro and the 1st wild card. the devils and hurricanes could flip flop places in the standings so if you want one or the other, 3rd place isnt certain to get you the matchup. Id prefer New Jersey, but both matchups would be difficult.

The key is avoiding the 2nd wildcard.

- SuperHenderson13


I think the Canes are a stronger team down the lineup and the Devils are much younger and not as playoff tested/experienced...however, it's definitely a pick your poison situation as far as the Pens are concerned hahah
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 11:33 AM ET
I think Sully is equally complicit. I still think he's a good coach, but he displays all the tendencies of someone who's stale and comfortable. In the corporate world, he would have been fired or moved to a different position 3 years ago. I'd hire him in a heartbeat for another team. I have no delusions he'll be fired so I hope they bring in a strong GM to insist on some changes.
- madmike71


Yeah I agree.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
I think Sully is equally complicit. I still think he's a good coach, but he displays all the tendencies of someone who's stale and comfortable. In the corporate world, he would have been fired or moved to a different position 3 years ago. I'd hire him in a heartbeat for another team. I have no delusions he'll be fired so I hope they bring in a strong GM to insist on some changes.
- madmike71

My Penguin conspiracy theory is that Hextall and Sullivan really dont like each other and there is a sort of gamesmanship to keep their own job by making the other look bad.

When FSG took over, I was told FSG really liked Sullivan. I wouldnt expect him to leave anytime soon. Still have no idea how Hextall saved his job. I was told he was a goner and pretty much everyone in the organization knew it.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 13 @ 11:42 AM ET
My Penguin conspiracy theory is that Hextall and Sullivan really dont like each other and there is a sort of gamesmanship to keep their own job by making the other look bad.

When FSG took over, I was told FSG really liked Sullivan. I wouldnt expect him to leave anytime soon. Still have no idea how Hextall saved his job. I was told he was a goner and pretty much everyone in the organization knew it.

- SuperHenderson13


Boston boys, Henry and Sully went to dinner in the off-season. Followed by a premature contract extension. He's here for the long haul.

Sully made the comment earlier.....something like he can only play the players on the roster. Probably some truth to your theory. I don't think Sully liked the defense restructure.


Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 13 @ 11:53 AM ET
hahahah the only boner around here is your Crater boner...how do you defend someone that A: you didn't watch at all B: who obviously couldn't play defense himself with those kind of stats and C: doesn't produce any offense on top of not being able to defend well?
- MattStrat

Pretty sure he had an assist like 1 game ago. If you’re going to give the A B C’s id appreciate facts kind sir. I did see Malkin stand beside Goodrow on the rangers first goal though, and if you’re going to go after a guy for a good clean hit and take a penalty at least drop the gloves.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 12:03 PM ET
Pretty sure he had an assist like 1 game ago. If you’re going to give the A B C’s id appreciate facts kind sir. I did see Malkin stand beside Goodrow on the rangers first goal though, and if you’re going to go after a guy for a good clean hit and take a penalty at least drop the gloves.
- Grinder47


The stats/facts were stated in this blog about this game. He didnt have a point in this game. In this game he was cratered in his own zone, badly, there are facts/stats to show this.

Its a weird thing to defend a guy with 5 points in last 26 games by comparing to, and using, a guy who has 31 points in the exact same time frame. Yes, Malkin can make bad plays as well, no one here will deny that....but he's also producing a lot. His line's play is arguably the biggest factor for the Pens being 7-1-1 in the last 9 games.
TartanBill
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.16.2016

Mar 13 @ 1:10 PM ET
You can’t get puck luck if all the shot volume is going at your own net.

That's what they really mean by creating your own luck. You put yourself in a position to have opportunities.

That non-call on Trocheck was atrocious. Despite the talking heads ,I don't like that first check on Malkin. Having the blade up like (over his head) that is dangerous. In USA hockey, the rules are clear that the blade should be below the knees. Arguably, the hit was a cross check, but I don't think Trocheck led with the stick. It did look like he pushed off with the stick and hands after the hit.
Regardless, a high stick like that is unnecessary and dangerous. It should be removed from the game.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 13 @ 1:54 PM ET
The stats/facts were stated in this blog about this game. He didnt have a point in this game. In this game he was cratered in his own zone, badly, there are facts/stats to show this.

It’s a weird thing to defend a guy with 5 points in last 26 games by comparing to, and using, a guy who has 31 points in the exact same time frame. Yes, Malkin can make bad plays as well, no one here will deny that....but he's also producing a lot. His line's play is arguably biggest factor for the Pens being 7-1-1 in the last 9 games.

- MattStrat

It’s Zuckers Line. It’s just to the point it’s almost funny everyone’s obsession with Carter. Multiple teams put their best face off man on to start overtime, because whoever wins it is always going to take the puck back and reset. No team is making plans to expose Carter on the 3-3.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 13 @ 1:56 PM ET
Pretty sure he had an assist like 1 game ago. If you’re going to give the A B C’s id appreciate facts kind sir. I did see Malkin stand beside Goodrow on the rangers first goal though, and if you’re going to go after a guy for a good clean hit and take a penalty at least drop the gloves.
- Grinder47


Malkin has over a PPG at a cap hit of $6.1M (70 in 66). Carter, with a cap hit more than half of Malkin's, has only 24 points in the same number of games.

If Carter was producing relative to his cap hit offensively, like Malkin is, I'm sure people would be fine with overlooking some of his deficienies.

That said, I think Malkin gets too much of a pass on here.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
It’s Zuckers Line. It’s just to the point it’s almost funny everyone’s obsession with Carter. Multiple teams put their best face off man on to start overtime, because whoever wins it is always going to take the puck back and reset. No team is making plans to expose Carter on the 3-3.
- Grinder47


Yeah, I agree with the last sentence...not so sure opposing teams/coaches are planning for this...especially when Carter wins more draws than he loses haha.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
Malkin has over a PPG at a cap hit of $6.1M (70 in 66). Carter, with a cap hit more than half of Malkin's, has only 24 points in the same number of games.

If Carter was producing relative to his cap hit offensively, like Malkin is, I'm sure people would be fine with overlooking some of his deficienies.

That said, I think Malkin gets too much of a pass on here.

- jmatchett383


In what way? Dirty play? Production?

Even though Geno is producing well I dont think he looks THAT good a lot of games. The closer I pay attention the more I think its a conditioning thing. Yes, I know he's getting older and its expected for him to slow down but slower foot speed is one thing. However, I'm also seeing gassed decisions (brain) and hands in a lot of games and its been this way all season.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
It’s Zuckers Line. It’s just to the point it’s almost funny everyone’s obsession with Carter. Multiple teams put their best face off man on to start overtime, because whoever wins it is always going to take the puck back and reset. No team is making plans to expose Carter on the 3-3.
- Grinder47

BuT zUcKeR iSn'T a ToP 6 wInG
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 13 @ 2:20 PM ET
I think Sully is equally complicit. I still think he's a good coach, but he displays all the tendencies of someone who's stale and comfortable. In the corporate world, he would have been fired or moved to a different position 3 years ago. I'd hire him in a heartbeat for another team. I have no delusions he'll be fired so I hope they bring in a strong GM to insist on some changes.
- madmike71

Sadly agree with every sentence of this. Sully will go elsewhere and do great. He's actually not terrible here. His continual reliance on certain vets who have declined is maddening, though all coaches do that to some degree. I miss the guy who was willing to play Murray over Fleury, Dumoulin on the top pair, and Rust and Sheary with Crosby and Malkin while all were essentially rookies.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 13 @ 2:24 PM ET
Pretty sure he had an assist like 1 game ago. If you’re going to give the A B C’s id appreciate facts kind sir. I did see Malkin stand beside Goodrow on the rangers first goal though, and if you’re going to go after a guy for a good clean hit and take a penalty at least drop the gloves.
- Grinder47

Carter got an assist on an empty net goal. Yay!

He can't score or can't play defense anymore. What's the point of him? You just can't admit he's over the hill.

Malkin, absolutely his effort is uneven. Kind of always has been which is what separates him from Sid in my mind. So I won't argue that. But when you score as much as he does, you get some passes.

Carter doesn't because he doesn't do anything anymore. Great player for most of his career, just not anymore.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:24 PM ET
To me, there isnt a huge difference between 3 seed in the Metro and the 1st wild card. the devils and hurricanes could flip flop places in the standings so if you want one or the other, 3rd place isnt certain to get you the matchup. Id prefer New Jersey, but both matchups would be difficult.

The key is avoiding the 2nd wildcard.

- SuperHenderson13

Boston looked plenty beatable this weekend against Detroit. Injuries and acquisitions might have caused too much roster/lineup changes.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
BuT zUcKeR iSn'T a ToP 6 wInG
- Tojo.


hahaha yeah I loved that he said Zuckers line because he used to sh!t on Zucks more than Geno....the irony then of course is him having a problem with anyone sh!tting on Carter.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
Boston looked plenty beatable this weekend against Detroit. Injuries and acquisitions might have caused too much roster/lineup changes.
- Feds91Stammer


I'm going to need to see a prolonged sh!t streak from them to think anything like that...like maybe if they drop 3 or 4 in a row haha...maybe
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 3:00 PM ET
hahaha yeah I loved that he said Zuckers line because he used to sh!t on Zucks more than Geno....the irony then of course is him having a problem with anyone sh!tting on Carter.
- MattStrat


The dude has had a hard on for plugs as long as he's been here, not sure why anyone's surprised by this.
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