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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 3 @ 10:46 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Ron Hextall is living in 2017
sextoymagic
Location: cedar rapids, IA
Joined: 04.21.2014

Mar 3 @ 10:52 AM ET
Cry baby RW just female doging like normal. Bonino is a great add. This team doesn’t need to load up on expensive players that aren’t going to improve us much.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 3 @ 10:59 AM ET
Cry baby RW just female doging like normal. Bonino is a great add. This team doesn’t need to load up on expensive players that aren’t going to improve us much.
- sextoymagic


Plus there are multiple sources that we tried and lost out on Chychrun and JT Miller which are bigger named talent.
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:00 AM ET
Not sure which is worse: Hextall living in 2017, or thinking the Pens should trade the farm for a 3rd line forward that will count $8 million against the cap next season, for a team that unless they were also living in 2017, won't go past the 2nd round even if they luck out.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:02 AM ET
I'm confused because in the last blog, or one before last, RW was saying a big no thanks to a "panic move" for JT.

I would of loved me some JT.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:06 AM ET
Makes sense the Canucks wouldn’t want whatever garbage was offered for JT - Pens have absolutely nothing of substance.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:06 AM ET
Lost in all this is the Pens still getting quality wins.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 3 @ 11:07 AM ET
Makes sense the Canucks wouldn’t want whatever garbage was offered for JT - Pens have absolutely nothing of substance.
- Brooks_Light

Mate, you vastly overestimate how much JT Miller is valued given that disaster of a contract he just signed.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 3 @ 11:09 AM ET
The Penguins are at the point in the lifecycle where risky moves is the only way to compete. You arent going to match up against cores much younger than yours and expect to compete. Im not saying Hextall shouldve been trigger friendly and signed us up for a lot of high risk deals, but there were plenty of chances to be high reward with low to moderate risk.

Hextall isnt the type of GM the Penguins need. They need someone willing to put themselves out there to take a risk. Hextall is content on sitting back and making one or two moves a year. That isnt going to work.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 3 @ 11:10 AM ET
Makes sense the Canucks wouldn’t want whatever garbage was offered for JT - Pens have absolutely nothing of substance.
- Brooks_Light


Idk 2 first round picks and 8 million in cap space next season is a lot to gain. Plus it gives Vancouver the ability to tank and get a better draft pick in a good draft. They could have had potentially 3 1sts in the first round this season if they didn't trade one away already.
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:11 AM ET
Lost in all this is the Pens still getting quality wins.
- Grinder47


When "quality" wins start happening against the Metro teams, I'll listen.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:12 AM ET
Friedman says Pens and Vancouver remain in talks, didn’t mention names just said if they do a deal it will be really complicated. Says he doesn’t think we are done yet.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 3 @ 11:13 AM ET
The Penguins are at the point in the lifecycle where risky moves is the only way to compete. You arent going to match up against cores much younger than yours and expect to compete. Im not saying Hextall shouldve been trigger friendly and signed us up for a lot of high risk deals, but there were plenty of chances to be high reward with low to moderate risk.

Hextall isnt the type of GM the Penguins need. They need someone willing to put themselves out there to take a risk. Hextall is content on sitting back and making one or two moves a year. That isnt going to work.

- SuperHenderson13



I mean we all agree to this that we need a more aggressive GM, its just nice to hear of some rumors like from old times where we are potentially going to land the top few targets that are available for once.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:13 AM ET
Friedman says Pens and Vancouver remain in talks, didn’t mention names just said if they do a deal it will be really complicated. Says he doesn’t think we are done yet.
- kfinl170

Maybe they work a deal for Garland? I guess we'll see.
Wait is this the right Friedman? Yesterday we got dooped by the fake account lol
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:16 AM ET
The Penguins are at the point in the lifecycle where risky moves is the only way to compete. You arent going to match up against cores much younger than yours and expect to compete. Im not saying Hextall shouldve been trigger friendly and signed us up for a lot of high risk deals, but there were plenty of chances to be high reward with low to moderate risk.

Hextall isnt the type of GM the Penguins need. They need someone willing to put themselves out there to take a risk. Hextall is content on sitting back and making one or two moves a year. That isnt going to work.

- SuperHenderson13

I assumed when he Pens hired Hextall it was to slowly tear it down and create cap space and add picks. Not sure why they hired him to keep going for it.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:16 AM ET
Maybe they work a deal for Garland? I guess we'll see.
Wait is this the right Friedman? Yesterday we got dooped by the fake account lol

- 668710


Haha a penguins Instagram account I follow posted his quote in a story, so I think he said it on TV
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 3 @ 11:18 AM ET
I assumed when he Pens hired Hextall it was to slowly tear it down and create cap space and add picks. Not sure why they hired him to keep going for it.
- rayc16



See I heard they hired him because they were looking for a visionary GM. Who envisioned a successful season not just currently, but in the future. Someone who couldn't put his plans into words. Someone who had no recent success as a GM that could take them helm.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
Friedman says Pens and Vancouver remain in talks, didn’t mention names just said if they do a deal it will be really complicated. Says he doesn’t think we are done yet.
- kfinl170


Oh no....just when I was starting to think Petts was safe....fvck
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:20 AM ET
Wanna trade organizations?
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
Wanna trade organizations?
- Glak18



Maybe if you guys retain half the salaries lol.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:23 AM ET
Friedman says Pens and Vancouver remain in talks, didn’t mention names just said if they do a deal it will be really complicated. Says he doesn’t think we are done yet.
- kfinl170


Would be interesting to see what a deal might look like. Pens have zero cap space and most of their guys on significant contracts have NTC's. The only player from the Pens that really fits the bill for Vancouver is Pettersson and I just don't think that is a deal that benefits the Pens involving him unless we are getting a replacement LD from somewhere else.


j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:24 AM ET
Cry baby RW just female doging like normal. Bonino is a great add. This team doesn’t need to load up on expensive players that aren’t going to improve us much.
- sextoymagic


1. Bonino is not a "great" add. He's a meh add.
2. So instead of loading up on expensive players that improve the team even marginally, you're okay with loading up with expensive players that make the team worse?
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
Would be interesting to see what a deal might look like. Pens have zero cap space and most of their guys on significant contracts have NTC's. The only player from the Pens that really fits the bill for Vancouver is Pettersson and I just don't think that is a deal that benefits the Pens involving him unless we are getting a replacement LD from somewhere else.
- MacPatty



This might be why it is so complicated of a deal since we would want another LD and they would want another center. They will probably end up swapping 2 minor league players and call it a day lol.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
Not sure which is worse: Hextall living in 2017, or thinking the Pens should trade the farm for a 3rd line forward that will count $8 million against the cap next season, for a team that unless they were also living in 2017, won't go past the 2nd round even if they luck out.
- NJPensfan


JT Miller is a PPG player, that's not a third line center. He could also be the replacement to Zucker that is signed throughout the core's tenure if he walks in FA, and Miller plays with that edge that the Pens generally lack when playoffs roll around, this is a bad take.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
1. Bonino is not a "great" add. He's a meh add.
2. So instead of loading up on expensive players that improve the team even marginally, you're okay with loading up with expensive players that make the team worse?

- j.boyd919


I agree with 1...but regarding 2...if there's a 3rd team involved ...is it possible Bonino is having 75% of his cap hit retained? haha..if so, he's not expensive at all.
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