Mike Augello
Commissioner Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.25.2006
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fifty__missions
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Chychrun ain’t happening |
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Canada Cup
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Someone other than Dozer explain to me how the money works. I don’t think anybody with an NTC agrees to go there but he and I are starting to sound like a Monty Python skit - Canada Cup
If Arizona offers extensions as part of the deal I could see guys like that waving it |
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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If Arizona offers extensions as part of the deal I could see guys like that waving it - Dozzer
Did you want the 5 minute or the full half hour argument? |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Did you want the 5 minute or the full half hour argument? - Canada Cup
A guy like Kerfoot who’s contract is up after this year meaning his next contract starts at the age of 29 and Holl who is already 30 and will be 31 by the end of his contract this year won’t exactly be the most craved UFAs in the league.
Average NHL age is now 27 and those two are reasonable players but aren’t even close to being stars so they’ll be lucky to land pretty much anything decent. Doubt either of them makes what they currently make ever again. |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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I think any truly significant moves will happen at the deadline at this point. Having said that, a move that rocks the hockey world to its very foundations could happen right in the middle of this sentence I am writing. Z5 |
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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A guy like Kerfoot who’s contract is up after this year meaning his next contract starts at the age of 29 and Holl who is already 30 and will be 31 by the end of his contract this year won’t exactly be the most craved UFAs in the league.
Average NHL age is now 27 and those two are reasonable players but aren’t even close to being stars so they’ll be lucky to land pretty much anything decent. Doubt either of them makes what they currently make ever again. - Dozzer
Maybe but I don’t see why they’d offer an extension to Kerfoot. What they want are the picks, prospects and young roster players. What they’d accept are other players to make the deal work. Kerfoot is better off going into free agency as a Leaf playing with better players and racking up more points than he would in Arizona. I also think playing and practicing in poopty facilities is a real issue. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I think any truly significant moves will happen at the deadline at this point. Having said that, a move that rocks the hockey world to its very foundations could happen right in the middle of this sentence I am writing. Z5 - Zezel
Tbh until the cap restriction when it comes to rising up in what? A couple more years I doubt we’ll see too many big moves.
A couple sure, like The Blackhawks selling for picks and prospects to a team who can afford the salaries. Otherwise without huge long term injuries I can’t see much happening. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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I know you like that guy so fair enough
However Sandin at the price of Dermott might be a tough one to give up - Dozzer
I very much like Sandin and don't want to trade him (hurry up and sign ), but I make that trade pretty easily. That's just how good Chychrun is.
Sandin around Dermott level contract would be excellent but so is a Norris level D-man at $4.6M for another few seasons. |
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underhill14
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Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool Joined: 06.02.2010
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Someone other than Dozer explain to me how the money works. I don’t think anybody with an NTC agrees to go there but he and I are starting to sound like a Monty Python skit - Canada Cup
Kerfoot, Sandin, 1st
Yeet Holl out into space...you could even bury him in the minors and that savings should be enough, unless he's claimed of course.
$3.75 + Sandin's ~$1.5 + Holl $2M = $7.25M
Chychrun = $4.6M cap hit.
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Maybe but I don’t see why they’d offer an extension to Kerfoot. What they want are the picks, prospects and young roster players. What they’d accept are other players to make the deal work. Kerfoot is better off going into free agency as a Leaf playing with better players and racking up more points than he would in Arizona. I also think playing and practicing in poopty facilities is a real issue. - Canada Cup
They still have to make the cap minimum so it can’t be nothing more than a bunch of cheap guys for Arizona
Also Kerfoot has only been able to block 10 teams so if the leafs need cap space and choose to move him cheaply it doesn’t necessarily mean it will be to a playoff bound team.
So yeah, maybe he would consider it if the deal gave him extended years in the league at a reasonable amount. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Maybe but I don’t see why they’d offer an extension to Kerfoot. What they want are the picks, prospects and young roster players. What they’d accept are other players to make the deal work. Kerfoot is better off going into free agency as a Leaf playing with better players and racking up more points than he would in Arizona. I also think playing and practicing in poopty facilities is a real issue. - Canada Cup
Does Kerfoot have a no trade clause, too? I honestly don't remember. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I very much like Sandin and don't want to trade him (hurry up and sign ), but I make that trade pretty easily. That's just how good Chychrun is.
Sandin around Dermott level contract would be excellent but so is a Norris level D-man at $4.6M for another few seasons. - GreatGigInTheSky
Wo! Chychrun is not Norris level. The guy only got more than 30 points once, never has played even 70 games in his first 7 years, and he has yet to prove himself defensively… I’m sorry but you can only blame the rest of the coyotes so much… he was -20 last year
The leafs need steady D, not yet another guy with an offensive upside. Rielly is primarily offensive, Liljegren was actually on pace for more points than Sandin who is also primarily offensive (if they both played 82 games last year) and even Giordano was on pace for 49 points during his time with the leafs.
The d-man they need would be a primarily defensive guy who would upgrade Holl’s style. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Does Kerfoot have a no trade clause, too? I honestly don't remember. - GreatGigInTheSky
Modified starting this year… there’s 10 teams they “technically” can’t move him to |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Wo! Chychrun is not Norris level. The guy only got more than 30 points once, never has played even 70 games in his first 7 years, and he has yet to prove himself defensively… I’m sorry but you can only blame the rest of the coyotes so much… he was -20 last year
The leafs need steady D, not yet another guy with an offensive upside. Rielly is primarily offensive, Liljegren was actually on pace for more points than Sandin who is also primarily offensive (if they both played 82 games last year) and even Giordano was on pace for 49 points during his time with the leafs.
The d-man they need would be a primarily defensive guy who would upgrade Holl’s style. - Dozzer
He finished 10th in voting 2 years ago and that was insulting to how incredible his season was.
Healthy Chychrun is absolutely in the conversation. (Not that it matters, since it'll be Makar's award for the next decade )
Chychrun is crazy underrated being in Arizona. He can and does play good defense. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Modified starting this year… there’s 10 teams they “technically” can’t move him to - Dozzer
Well that sucks. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Kerfoot, Sandin, 1st
Yeet Holl out into space...you could even bury him in the minors and that savings should be enough, unless he's claimed of course.
$3.75 + Sandin's ~$1.5 + Holl $2M = $7.25M
Chychrun = $4.6M cap hit. - underhill14
Kerfoot has Arizona on his NTC list 10 times |
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