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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 14 @ 4:11 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: WJC Day 5 Wrap, Day 6 Preview, Quick Hits
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 14 @ 7:23 AM ET
Who is flyered up this morning? After looking at this roster I believe it is underrated. With a new attitude and focus on bringing back flyers hockey I am starting to think they are on the right path.

They have their #1 center locked up for 8 years so no need to worry about that position. Young stud goalie. A coach who will take the D core to new levels. I am excited.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Aug 14 @ 7:52 AM ET
Mactavish is a ANA prospect…not Ottawa. Ridly Greig is an Ott prospect.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 14 @ 9:33 AM ET
Who is flyered up this morning? After looking at this roster I believe it is underrated. With a new attitude and focus on bringing back flyers hockey I am starting to think they are on the right path.

They have their #1 center locked up for 8 years so no need to worry about that position. Young stud goalie. A coach who will take the D core to new levels. I am excited.

- hello it's me 2050




I actually agree that we underestimate this roster a bit. They aren't a playoff team, but they also aren't a bottom three team like some suggest. Therein lies the problem for me.

A LOT hinges on the health of Couturier and Hayes.

I would prefer they are a lottery team because I want a shot at Bedard or even one of the other top 3 or 4 prospects that are due in 2023.

What I don't want is a middling team that finishes in 20th and in that no mans land of not making the playoffs and not drafting high. THAT is where I think they are. And it saddens me.

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 14 @ 9:40 AM ET
I actually agree that we underestimate this roster a bit. They aren't a playoff team, but they also aren't a bottom three team like some suggest. Therein lies the problem for me.

A LOT hinges on the health of Couturier and Hayes.

I would prefer they are a lottery team because I want a shot at Bedard or even one of the other top 3 or 4 prospects that are due in 2023.

What I don't want is a middling team that finishes in 20th and in that no mans land of not making the playoffs and not drafting high. THAT is where I think they are. And it saddens me.

- MBFlyerfan

What teams are we better than? This is a bottom 5-6 team. Almost all the teams ahead of us in the standings from last season got better with the exception of Chicago and San Jose.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Aug 14 @ 10:02 AM ET
Who is flyered up this morning? After looking at this roster I believe it is underrated. With a new attitude and focus on bringing back flyers hockey I am starting to think they are on the right path.

They have their #1 center locked up for 8 years so no need to worry about that position. Young stud goalie. A coach who will take the D core to new levels. I am excited.

- hello it's me 2050

It sounds like you had a very healthy and satisfying breakfast today. What did you have?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Aug 14 @ 10:05 AM ET
Who is flyered up this morning? After looking at this roster I believe it is underrated. With a new attitude and focus on bringing back flyers hockey I am starting to think they are on the right path.

They have their #1 center locked up for 8 years so no need to worry about that position. Young stud goalie. A coach who will take the D core to new levels. I am excited.

- hello it's me 2050



20th place! Here we come!!!!!!!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 14 @ 10:23 AM ET
I actually agree that we underestimate this roster a bit. They aren't a playoff team, but they also aren't a bottom three team like some suggest. Therein lies the problem for me.

A LOT hinges on the health of Couturier and Hayes.

I would prefer they are a lottery team because I want a shot at Bedard or even one of the other top 3 or 4 prospects that are due in 2023.

What I don't want is a middling team that finishes in 20th and in that no mans land of not making the playoffs and not drafting high. THAT is where I think they are. And it saddens me.

- MBFlyerfan
I'll ask you an honest question. What teams do you think they will finish ahead of in the east? FIRE CHUCK! THanks!
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 10:38 AM ET
The Sixers
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 14 @ 10:46 AM ET
Who is flyered up this morning? After looking at this roster I believe it is underrated. With a new attitude and focus on bringing back flyers hockey I am starting to think they are on the right path.

They have their #1 center locked up for 8 years so no need to worry about that position. Young stud goalie. A coach who will take the D core to new levels. I am excited.

- hello it's me 2050

You forgot #1 Dman Provy and #1B Elite Sanheim. We are in good shape folks.
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Aug 14 @ 10:53 AM ET
Chuck is a modern day compilation of Nero, Caligula, and modern Scarface.
A calm exterior with a totally unhinged action bias.

Com- cASSt HR dept allowing him to continue is a fricking joke.. or are they scared of the Marketing Dept and Mrs Grittys suk sess

On a serious note, as there are minimal people in the stands for WJC, what was the protocol they decided on? Just immediate family, mini-bubble etc ??
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 14 @ 11:26 AM ET
I actually agree that we underestimate this roster a bit. They aren't a playoff team, but they also aren't a bottom three team like some suggest. Therein lies the problem for me.

A LOT hinges on the health of Couturier and Hayes.

I would prefer they are a lottery team because I want a shot at Bedard or even one of the other top 3 or 4 prospects that are due in 2023.

What I don't want is a middling team that finishes in 20th and in that no mans land of not making the playoffs and not drafting high. THAT is where I think they are. And it saddens me.

- MBFlyerfan

I think it’s much more likely they are bottom 7-8 than they end up flirting with a playoff spot.

The odds of all of the following happening are pretty slim:
Couts and Hayes both stay healthy all season
Farabee comes back fully healthy and in top form by early Nov, and then stays healthy all season
Risto significantly improves
Provy/TDA are an effective top pair
and, most importantly
Hart not only stays healthy all year and starts 60+ games, but he also plays well enough to steal games.

Barring a whole lot going right for the Flyers and a lot going wrong for some other teams, I can’t see them finishing anywhere but last in the Metro, no higher than 13th in the East and no higher than 24th in the league.

They will pick in the top 10.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 14 @ 12:00 PM ET
I think it’s much more likely they are bottom 7-8 than they end up flirting with a playoff spot.

The odds of all of the following happening are pretty slim:
Couts and Hayes both stay healthy all season
Farabee comes back fully healthy and in top form by early Nov, and then stays healthy all season
Risto significantly improves
Provy/TDA are an effective top pair
and, most importantly
Hart not only stays healthy all year and starts 60+ games, but he also plays well enough to steal games.

Barring a whole lot going right for the Flyers and a lot going wrong for some other teams, I can’t see them finishing anywhere but last in the Metro, no higher than 13th in the East and no higher than 24th in the league.

They will pick in the top 10.

- BiggE
I can't see the Flyers finishing any higher than 14th in the east. There are possibly 2 teams that they could finish ahead of, and that would be the Habs and the Devils. They finished 15th last year and did nothing to improve this off season. In fact, they are worse cause this year they won't have Giroux at all. All the other teams directly ahead of them got markedly better in the off season (Ottawa, Detroit, Columbus...etc). There is simply no one for them to catch.

I just received my fantasy edition of The Hockey News and they have some more good news for us Flyers faithful. Their top projected point getter for this upcoming season is Couturier with a whopping 55 points!! Yes, that's the lowest projected top point getter per team in the entire league. Please fire Chuckles!
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Aug 14 @ 12:04 PM ET
I actually agree that we underestimate this roster a bit. They aren't a playoff team, but they also aren't a bottom three team like some suggest. Therein lies the problem for me.

A LOT hinges on the health of Couturier and Hayes.

I would prefer they are a lottery team because I want a shot at Bedard or even one of the other top 3 or 4 prospects that are due in 2023.

What I don't want is a middling team that finishes in 20th and in that no mans land of not making the playoffs and not drafting high. THAT is where I think they are. And it saddens me.

- MBFlyerfan


ellis will put them in playoff conversation
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 14 @ 12:15 PM ET
I can't see the Flyers finishing any higher than 14th in the east. There are possibly 2 teams that they could finish ahead of, and that would be the Habs and the Devils. They finished 15th last year and did nothing to improve this off season. In fact, they are worse cause this year they won't have Giroux at all. All the other teams directly ahead of them got markedly better in the off season (Ottawa, Detroit, Columbus...etc). There is simply no one for them to catch.

I just received my fantasy edition of The Hockey News and they have some more good news for us Flyers faithful. Their top projected point getter for this upcoming season is Couturier with a whopping 55 points!! Yes, that's the lowest projected top point getter per team in the entire league. Please fire Chuckles!

- Phillywhiteout

Hey that’s 3 more points than I predicted. Maybe I need to look closer
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 14 @ 12:17 PM ET
I actually agree that we underestimate this roster a bit. They aren't a playoff team, but they also aren't a bottom three team like some suggest. Therein lies the problem for me.

A LOT hinges on the health of Couturier and Hayes.

I would prefer they are a lottery team because I want a shot at Bedard or even one of the other top 3 or 4 prospects that are due in 2023.

What I don't want is a middling team that finishes in 20th and in that no mans land of not making the playoffs and not drafting high. THAT is where I think they are. And it saddens me.

- MBFlyerfan

I’d also like a shot at Bedard but I also believe this team is underrated. Those writing this team off are a little shorted sited. You have to play the games first. Health will be a major factor, improved play by everyone and Torts being every bit the “leader of men” he’s been sold as by players such as Cam Atkinson and Michael Del Zotto who once played under him.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 14 @ 12:17 PM ET
I wonder… does philly continue trend of being toward top end of league in getting stupid loser point next year?
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:42 PM ET
We must embrace the suck.
Wallow in it.
Bask in it's glow.
Feels so good!
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:46 PM ET
Hey that’s 3 more points than I predicted. Maybe I need to look closer
- Stayin alive

Not sure why all these wizards seem to believe a guy who had back surgery and another year older will be anything more than a shell of the former Selke winner.
50 points will be a dream!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:49 PM ET
I’d also like a shot at Bedard but I also believe this team is underrated. Those writing this team off are a little shorted sited. You have to play the games first. Health will be a major factor, improved play by everyone and Torts being every bit the “leader of men” he’s been sold as by players such as Cam Atkinson and Michael Del Zotto who once played under him.
- SuperSchennBros

For all these people claiming this team is underrated, please look at the league and tell
Me what teams we are going to pass in the standings.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 14 @ 1:25 PM ET
For all these people claiming this team is underrated, please look at the league and tell
Me what teams we are going to pass in the standings.

- ClaudeFather


The Flyers are going to struggle to score goals. I don't expect them to have a good PP. I think they can improve somewhat defensively but lacking a strong offensive attack and puck possession will cause them to defend too much.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 14 @ 1:30 PM ET
I actually agree that we underestimate this roster a bit. They aren't a playoff team, but they also aren't a bottom three team like some suggest. Therein lies the problem for me.

A LOT hinges on the health of Couturier and Hayes.

I would prefer they are a lottery team because I want a shot at Bedard or even one of the other top 3 or 4 prospects that are due in 2023.

What I don't want is a middling team that finishes in 20th and in that no mans land of not making the playoffs and not drafting high. THAT is where I think they are. And it saddens me.

- MBFlyerfan

I was being sarcastic. They are a bottom 12 team. Sadly wont be bad enough to be bottom 5 to get a franchise level player.

Hopefully the wheels fall off early.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 1:36 PM ET
Not sure why all these wizards seem to believe a guy who had back surgery and another year older will be anything more than a shell of the former Selke winner.
50 points will be a dream!

- konalover711

becuase, again, for the millionth time and let it seep into your pudding brain, we dont know exactly what the nature of his back injury was.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
Ex selke being 100% healthy and getting 70 points will do what exactly for this team?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 14 @ 2:33 PM ET
becuase, again, for the millionth time and let it seep into your pudding brain, we dont know exactly what the nature of his back injury was.
- THE BLACK HAND


What with the 12 points through 10 games and the team with a 6-2-2 record. The back issues started in game 12.
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