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Ben Shelley
Anaheim Ducks
Location: ON
Joined: 04.09.2020

Jul 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Ducks re-sign Simon Benoit, Olle Eriksson Ek and Urho Vaakanainen
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 23 @ 2:58 PM ET
I like all the signings...

Surprised Simon only got 1 yr. Thought he was a solid performer for the squad.

All the rest seem right on the money..
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Jul 23 @ 4:01 PM ET
I like all the signings...

Surprised Simon only got 1 yr. Thought he was a solid performer for the squad.

All the rest seem right on the money..

- dozerD10


Yeah, I was impressed with Benoit this year - from player's perspective though, may make more sense to bet on getting a bigger role next year (especially given lack of depth at the moment) to earn more when he does sign a multi-year deal.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 23 @ 6:16 PM ET
Yeah, I was impressed with Benoit this year - from player's perspective though, may make more sense to bet on getting a bigger role next year (especially given lack of depth at the moment) to earn more when he does sign a multi-year deal.
- Ben Shelley



He’s a tough kid …anyone that fights Tom Wilson to a draw is money in my book.
On a team lacking some hammers, he and Drew are sorely needed on the backend.
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Jul 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
Benoit did the job last year. No problem with these signings.

But since the Ducks are under the cap floor still. Why not sign some long term contracts for the younger players. I mean if the plan is to go the long route and wait another 5+ years to turn the Ducks into contenders. Why not sign long term contracts right now to get a lower overall cap hit while still giving the young players there money.
If Verbeek is "tring to build something great". Then his great challenge is going to be cap management. Why not sign Troy Terry to a 7 or 8 year deal. Maybe next year try getting Zegras and Drysdale to long term contracts too. If your not going to spend the cap space now. And for some reason can't take on bad contracts, make trades, sign free agents, or resign our own UFA's. Maybe thinking about 4 or 5 years from now isn't that bad of a option. As they say."In for a penny, in for a pound" or the American version "Go big or go home".
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 23 @ 10:02 PM ET
Benoit did the job last year. No problem with these signings.

But since the Ducks are under the cap floor still. Why not sign some long term contracts for the younger players. I mean if the plan is to go the long route and wait another 5+ years to turn the Ducks into contenders. Why not sign long term contracts right now to get a lower overall cap hit while still giving the young players there money.
If Verbeek is "tring to build something great". Then his great challenge is going to be cap management. Why not sign Troy Terry to a 7 or 8 year deal. Maybe next year try getting Zegras and Drysdale to long term contracts too. If your not going to spend the cap space now. And for some reason can't take on bad contracts, make trades, sign free agents, or resign our own UFA's. Maybe thinking about 4 or 5 years from now isn't that bad of a option. As they say."In for a penny, in for a pound" or the American version "Go big or go home".

- Eman87654



His lack of action is baffling .. FA cupboard is getting pretty bare..
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jul 24 @ 9:11 AM ET
His lack of action is baffling .. FA cupboard is getting pretty bare..
- dozerD10


Some of the teams that are near or over the cap will need a destination for players before the start of the season. Some teams also will want to acquire players via trade but will need a third team to eat cap to make the numbers work.

Perhaps GMPV is waiting for those markets to develop.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jul 24 @ 9:19 AM ET
Benoit did the job last year. No problem with these signings.

But since the Ducks are under the cap floor still. Why not sign some long term contracts for the younger players. I mean if the plan is to go the long route and wait another 5+ years to turn the Ducks into contenders. Why not sign long term contracts right now to get a lower overall cap hit while still giving the young players there money.
If Verbeek is "tring to build something great". Then his great challenge is going to be cap management. Why not sign Troy Terry to a 7 or 8 year deal. Maybe next year try getting Zegras and Drysdale to long term contracts too. If your not going to spend the cap space now. And for some reason can't take on bad contracts, make trades, sign free agents, or resign our own UFA's. Maybe thinking about 4 or 5 years from now isn't that bad of a option. As they say."In for a penny, in for a pound" or the American version "Go big or go home".

- Eman87654


Signing guys like Terry and Zegras to new deals now won't help ANA reach the cap floor this year. The CBA doesn't allow a player and team on mutual agreement to tear up a contract in favor of a new one.

Lunderstrom is the only RFA left. His eventual signing will get the team to ~6.5-7.00 mm under the cap. That will get the roster to 18 players. He still needs 5 more players to fill out the roster. He will get there with a few cap trades that get ANA even more futures.

GMPV is doing it right.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:33 AM ET
Signing guys like Terry and Zegras to new deals now won't help ANA reach the cap floor this year. The CBA doesn't allow a player and team on mutual agreement to tear up a contract in favor of a new one.

Lunderstrom is the only RFA left. His eventual signing will get the team to ~6.5-7.00 mm under the cap. That will get the roster to 18 players. He still needs 5 more players to fill out the roster. He will get there with a few cap trades that get ANA even more futures.

GMPV is doing it right.

- Only_A_Ladd


I want to say you are correct... but he's starting to make me worry.. lack of action and all that whilst others make improvements.
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Jul 24 @ 2:53 PM ET
Signing guys like Terry and Zegras to new deals now won't help ANA reach the cap floor this year. The CBA doesn't allow a player and team on mutual agreement to tear up a contract in favor of a new one.

Lunderstrom is the only RFA left. His eventual signing will get the team to ~6.5-7.00 mm under the cap. That will get the roster to 18 players. He still needs 5 more players to fill out the roster. He will get there with a few cap trades that get ANA even more futures.

GMPV is doing it right.

- Only_A_Ladd


Well your half right. One RFA left. But we can sign extensions for our younger players anytime. Spreading the cap hit over multiple years and bring down the overall cap hit. Of course to get those players to sign you gotta give them a raise. But being able to get there money now and being able to invest some of that money into long term investments should be a good motivation.

Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 24 @ 3:20 PM ET
Are the Ducks interested in bringing Sam Steel and Sonny Milano back? I wonder why it’s taking so long. The Ducks have so much cap space.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Are the Ducks interested in bringing Sam Steel and Sonny Milano back? I wonder why it’s taking so long. The Ducks have so much cap space.
- Barnaby36



I don't know wtf Verbeek is up to... we need to make a trade with you guys for some D..

Spit it out.. Pettersson back to Ducks...
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
Some of the teams that are near or over the cap will need a destination for players before the start of the season. Some teams also will want to acquire players via trade but will need a third team to eat cap to make the numbers work.

Perhaps GMPV is waiting for those markets to develop.

- Only_A_Ladd

This is pretty much what he's doing. I played golf with a front office employee from the Kings today and he told me that's probably what GMPV is planning. He said the Kings did something similar a few years ago, but the situation is even worse now and he said he was jealous of the Ducks' situation. He told me there are so many teams in cap trouble, even more than CapFriendly says, that there will be teams begging GMPV to take a player off of their hands and they will throw in draft picks to entice him. It's similar to what Arizona did a few years back but without the incompetence of their staff. (His words). It was fun hearing from a different team's management, I usually play with the Ducks front office guys. One last thing, I complimented him on how well the Kings have drafted and I'm hoping some of the Ducks kids pan out as well. He smiled and said there was one miss that would have really put the Kings over the top when compared to Anaheim. I asked if it was Zegras because I'd heard Trevor say he thought he was going to the Kings. He said, yep! He said they still believe Turcotte can be an NHLer but the kid is hurt all of the time and there's really no time-table for when he'll take the next step.
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Jul 24 @ 6:57 PM ET
This is pretty much what he's doing. I played golf with a front office employee from the Kings today and he told me that's probably what GMPV is planning. He said the Kings did something similar a few years ago, but the situation is even worse now and he said he was jealous of the Ducks' situation. He told me there are so many teams in cap trouble, even more than CapFriendly says, that there will be teams begging GMPV to take a player off of their hands and they will throw in draft picks to entice him. It's similar to what Arizona did a few years back but without the incompetence of their staff. (His words). It was fun hearing from a different team's management, I usually play with the Ducks front office guys. One last thing, I complimented him on how well the Kings have drafted and I'm hoping some of the Ducks kids pan out as well. He smiled and said there was one miss that would have really put the Kings over the top when compared to Anaheim. I asked if it was Zegras because I'd heard Trevor say he thought he was going to the Kings. He said, yep! He said they still believe Turcotte can be an NHLer but the kid is hurt all of the time and there's really no time-table for when he'll take the next step.
- duxcup07


Yeah I'd believe that the Kings would like our farm system. But the King were in a no win situation. They could have traded Kopitar, Doughty, Quick. But I don't think they would have got that much back. And It's probably going to to a 2 part rebuild for them. After there older players leave or retire they're going to have to do a retool. But that won't be for a while. As far as there prospects. They're in it up to there necks as far as expectations go. That's how L.A. fans are. They expect alot. But want to give little. Time being the thing King's fans don't want to give. L.A. sports fans are some of the most spoiled fans in the world. Lakers, Dodgers always go for it. I'm surprised King's fans waited 3 years. Still I'd bet on Kopitar and Doughty. Quick seems to be on the way out. But Petterson has picked up the slack.
Obviously Verbeek didn't believe in what Core players the Ducks had left. So he traded them and set us on the long path. Neither way of rebuilding the King's and Ducks are doing can said to be bad. Both are risky. But risk can be mitigated by smart moves.
Still I can say I jealous of what the King's are doing. They still have core. Although they are getting old. At least they are tring. And at least they have the opportunity to take one more run. I wish the Ducks could have won a Cup with Getzlaf and Perry. The King's have a opportunity to get one more with that core. And that's a opportunity that you can't pass up.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 24 @ 7:57 PM ET
This is pretty much what he's doing. I played golf with a front office employee from the Kings today and he told me that's probably what GMPV is planning. He said the Kings did something similar a few years ago, but the situation is even worse now and he said he was jealous of the Ducks' situation. He told me there are so many teams in cap trouble, even more than CapFriendly says, that there will be teams begging GMPV to take a player off of their hands and they will throw in draft picks to entice him. It's similar to what Arizona did a few years back but without the incompetence of their staff. (His words). It was fun hearing from a different team's management, I usually play with the Ducks front office guys. One last thing, I complimented him on how well the Kings have drafted and I'm hoping some of the Ducks kids pan out as well. He smiled and said there was one miss that would have really put the Kings over the top when compared to Anaheim. I asked if it was Zegras because I'd heard Trevor say he thought he was going to the Kings. He said, yep! He said they still believe Turcotte can be an NHLer but the kid is hurt all of the time and there's really no time-table for when he'll take the next step.
- duxcup07



I don't want cap dumps with some random 3rd round pick tacked on... Fck that. Just to make it to the floor... that's crazy talk.


Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jul 25 @ 8:39 AM ET
This is pretty much what he's doing. I played golf with a front office employee from the Kings today and he told me that's probably what GMPV is planning. He said the Kings did something similar a few years ago, but the situation is even worse now and he said he was jealous of the Ducks' situation. He told me there are so many teams in cap trouble, even more than CapFriendly says, that there will be teams begging GMPV to take a player off of their hands and they will throw in draft picks to entice him. It's similar to what Arizona did a few years back but without the incompetence of their staff. (His words). It was fun hearing from a different team's management, I usually play with the Ducks front office guys. One last thing, I complimented him on how well the Kings have drafted and I'm hoping some of the Ducks kids pan out as well. He smiled and said there was one miss that would have really put the Kings over the top when compared to Anaheim. I asked if it was Zegras because I'd heard Trevor say he thought he was going to the Kings. He said, yep! He said they still believe Turcotte can be an NHLer but the kid is hurt all of the time and there's really no time-table for when he'll take the next step.
- duxcup07


Regardless of rivalry, the Turcotte situation is just sad. The kid was injured and ill at Wisconsin, and he's had multiple injuries since he became pro. This latest concussion kept him out of low-intensity prospect camp a few weeks ago. If not with the Kings, I hope the kid recovers and has an NHL career somewhere.

There were two big misses for the King in that draft after falling in the lottery: 1. Zegras (obviously), and 2. Byram. With the latter, if Colorado goes forward and grabs Turcotte or Cozens (IIRC those were the other two reportedly high on their board), then the Kings have their 1LHD issue solved. Of course, with any prospect, environment matters so who knows if either of those guys would have worked out as well in the Kings' system. The Turcotte pick, if he doesn't work out, is somewhat mitigated by getting Kaliyev at 33 after he fell. Kid is a beast.
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jul 25 @ 9:23 AM ET
I don't want cap dumps with some random 3rd round pick tacked on... Fck that. Just to make it to the floor... that's crazy talk.
- dozerD10

I think that's what he meant by the Arizona comment.
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jul 25 @ 9:31 AM ET
Regardless of rivalry, the Turcotte situation is just sad. The kid was injured and ill at Wisconsin, and he's had multiple injuries since he became pro. This latest concussion kept him out of low-intensity prospect camp a few weeks ago. If not with the Kings, I hope the kid recovers and has an NHL career somewhere.

There were two big misses for the King in that draft after falling in the lottery: 1. Zegras (obviously), and 2. Byram. With the latter, if Colorado goes forward and grabs Turcotte or Cozens (IIRC those were the other two reportedly high on their board), then the Kings have their 1LHD issue solved. Of course, with any prospect, environment matters so who knows if either of those guys would have worked out as well in the Kings' system. The Turcotte pick, if he doesn't work out, is somewhat mitigated by getting Kaliyev at 33 after he fell. Kid is a beast.

- Only_A_Ladd


Byram isn't a miss, though. He was already gone. He's on the other side, but what if the Kings had selected Mo Seider?!?!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 25 @ 10:09 AM ET
Yeah I'd believe that the Kings would like our farm system. But the King were in a no win situation. They could have traded Kopitar, Doughty, Quick. But I don't think they would have got that much back. And It's probably going to to a 2 part rebuild for them. After there older players leave or retire they're going to have to do a retool. But that won't be for a while. As far as there prospects. They're in it up to there necks as far as expectations go. That's how L.A. fans are. They expect alot. But want to give little. Time being the thing King's fans don't want to give. L.A. sports fans are some of the most spoiled fans in the world. Lakers, Dodgers always go for it. I'm surprised King's fans waited 3 years. Still I'd bet on Kopitar and Doughty. Quick seems to be on the way out. But Petterson has picked up the slack.
Obviously Verbeek didn't believe in what Core players the Ducks had left. So he traded them and set us on the long path. Neither way of rebuilding the King's and Ducks are doing can said to be bad. Both are risky. But risk can be mitigated by smart moves.
Still I can say I jealous of what the King's are doing. They still have core. Although they are getting old. At least they are tring. And at least they have the opportunity to take one more run. I wish the Ducks could have won a Cup with Getzlaf and Perry. The King's have a opportunity to get one more with that core. And that's a opportunity that you can't pass up.

- Eman87654



Getzlaf and Perry were on the team when the Ducks won the Cup, in 2007
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
I think that's what he meant by the Arizona comment.
- duxcup07


oh alright then...
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jul 25 @ 12:39 PM ET
Byram isn't a miss, though. He was already gone. He's on the other side, but what if the Kings had selected Mo Seider?!?!
- duxcup07


Right. I meant more of a "miss" as in "missed opportunity" had Colorado gone the other way.

Seider is going to haunt a few teams in the Top 5! LAK, CHI, and (I think) NYR. At least LAK and NYR are still holding their picks. CHI already moved on from Dach.