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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Thursday @ 2:31 PM ET
Mike Augello: Are the Leafs being priced out on Campbell, Mikheyev??
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Thursday @ 2:33 PM ET
Yes

Or more accurately, they're pricing themselves out of the Leafs.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Thursday @ 2:33 PM ET
Giving Campbell over 5M on a long term deal is madness.

Hopefully it comes to this.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Thursday @ 2:36 PM ET
Giving Campbell over 5M on a long term deal is madness.

Hopefully it comes to this.

- Scabeh

Same with anyone giving mickey 4-5m per.
He can F off with that

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Thursday @ 2:36 PM ET
Giving Campbell over 5M on a long term deal is madness.

Hopefully it comes to this.

- Scabeh



It looks like we may need two goalies... Not sure if there is one available that is better than Jack Campbell. The whole John Gibson thing looks like it's not gonna happen, he'll stay in Anaheim.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Thursday @ 2:39 PM ET
It looks like we may need two goalies... Not sure if there is one available that is better than Jack Campbell. The whole John Gibson thing looks like it's not gonna happen, he'll stay in Anaheim.
- PatC80


Honestly wont lose a whole lot of sleep if the team ends up not signing both. Mik was fast and started to find his hands but he still is a better complimentary 3rd line guy not a top 6 and that is what he wants to be and get paid like.

Campbell is good, but can't overpay. I think in the end Leafs still need that central piece in net like a Potvin, Cujo, Belfour etc to steal a game.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Thursday @ 2:41 PM ET
Honestly wont lose a whole lot of sleep if the team ends up not signing both. Mik was fast and started to find his hands but he still is a better complimentary 3rd line guy not a top 6 and that is what he wants to be and get paid like.

Campbell is good, but can't overpay. I think in the end Leafs still need that central piece in net like a Potvin, Cujo, Belfour etc to steal a game.

- Roadrunner75



I will miss Mikheyev, he is fun to watch... I like Campbell as well, but if he wants more than $4.5M, I think they have to move on.. Campbell hasn't proven he can steal a game.. Leafs need a goalie that can.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Thursday @ 2:43 PM ET
It looks like we may need two goalies... Not sure if there is one available that is better than Jack Campbell. The whole John Gibson thing looks like it's not gonna happen, he'll stay in Anaheim.
- PatC80


I think Anaheim would be best to keep him and if they are out of by the deadline move on from him then
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Thursday @ 2:43 PM ET
Is Red Lobster out of Campbell Soup? We need to know NOW!

Say chowder....
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Thursday @ 2:46 PM ET
yes there are
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Proud member of the Luciferian Cabal , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Thursday @ 2:48 PM ET
Any idea how much NFT of crying Cooper will sell for? NHL might be onto something.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Thursday @ 2:49 PM ET
Any idea how much NFT of crying Cooper will sell for? NHL might be onto something.
- Canada Cup


I'd bid on that.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Thursday @ 2:51 PM ET
Hey I like Mikheyev but not at 4.5~5M cap hit.

Here's the blip he had this year.





dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Thursday @ 3:05 PM ET
Yes to both…
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Thursday @ 3:28 PM ET
Honestly wont lose a whole lot of sleep if the team ends up not signing both. Mik was fast and started to find his hands but he still is a better complimentary 3rd line guy not a top 6 and that is what he wants to be and get paid like.

Campbell is good, but can't overpay. I think in the end Leafs still need that central piece in net like a Potvin, Cujo, Belfour etc to steal a game.

- Roadrunner75

Mik disappeared for most games in these past playoffs.
I agree, the leafs need a goalie to steal a game...we've seen that in the reg season once in a while with campbell but never in the playoffs
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Thursday @ 3:31 PM ET
Mikheyev is heading to Vancouver
(which for me is a good option)👍

Joining the UFA Russian they just signed
Kuzmenko
Smart gm’ing by Rutherford
Trade Boeser and Miller for a 🚤 load
Pick up UFA’s for free
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Proud member of the Luciferian Cabal , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Thursday @ 3:35 PM ET
Yes to both…
- dozerD10

Well no, those players just might not be worth the money they want. Different question.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Thursday @ 3:47 PM ET
Mikheyev is heading to Vancouver
(which for me is a good option)👍

Joining the UFA Russian they just signed
Kuzmenko
Smart gm’ing by Rutherford Allvin
Trade Boeser and Miller for a 🚤 load
Pick up UFA’s for free

- mr.sir

Rutherford isn't really the GM.

That's like saying Shanahan is the GM in Toronto
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Thursday @ 3:50 PM ET
Mikheyev is heading to Vancouver
(which for me is a good option)👍

Joining the UFA Russian they just signed
Kuzmenko
Smart gm’ing by Rutherford
Trade Boeser and Miller for a 🚤 load
Pick up UFA’s for free

- mr.sir



You'll need to qualify Boeser at around 8M or work out a 5 ~6 year contract to get his cap hit down a little
I don't see much going to Vancouver for him
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Thursday @ 4:13 PM ET
Mikheyev is heading to Vancouver
(which for me is a good option)👍

Joining the UFA Russian they just signed
Kuzmenko
Smart gm’ing by Rutherford
Trade Boeser and Miller for a 🚤 load
Pick up UFA’s for free

- mr.sir



Ignoring that their GM is Patrick Alvin - let's say the Canucks pick up Mikheyev for $4-5m and Kuzmenko for his ELC . . . now you're dealing with two guys who are both at age 27 (Mikheyev will be 28 in October, and Kuzmenko turns 27 in February) this season; Mikheyev hit 20 goals for the first time last year, and Kuzmenko hit 20 in the KHL for the first time last year - and you could legitimately credit a lot of that to Gusev, who was no massive game breaker in the NHL with 13 goals a few years back.

So you're bringing in maybe 30 or 35 goals and trading out 55 - 60 goals from younger and better players? So you get some assets later in the draft - like picks in the 20-30 range. Where do Vancouver think they are? Are they rebuilding? Are they retooling? Or are they building and need to shift salary? They were 25-15-9 from January 1 onwards - which was a playoff team.

I don't think that's good GM'ing to get worse when you have some young solid players you can build from.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Thursday @ 4:21 PM ET
I'm going to say it again, that Hagel trade looks like trash. 6 points in the playoffs. two first round picks for this guy.

Yes I get his salary is cheap but he only scored 4 goals after being traded and 2 were empty netters. If his points don't get close to what he got in Chicago it's a horrible trade. It's already not been good for this run.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Thursday @ 4:38 PM ET
Ignoring that their GM is Patrick Alvin - let's say the Canucks pick up Mikheyev for $4-5m and Kuzmenko for his ELC . . . now you're dealing with two guys who are both at age 27 (Mikheyev will be 28 in October, and Kuzmenko turns 27 in February) this season; Mikheyev hit 20 goals for the first time last year, and Kuzmenko hit 20 in the KHL for the first time last year - and you could legitimately credit a lot of that to Gusev, who was no massive game breaker in the NHL with 13 goals a few years back.

So you're bringing in maybe 30 or 35 goals and trading out 55 - 60 goals from younger and better players? So you get some assets later in the draft - like picks in the 20-30 range. Where do Vancouver think they are? Are they rebuilding? Are they retooling? Or are they building and need to shift salary? They were 25-15-9 from January 1 onwards - which was a playoff team.

I don't think that's good GM'ing to get worse when you have some young solid players you can build from.

- Monkeypunk

Allvin isn’t calling the shots without Rutherford yet

My point is that if you trade players for assets and then pick up UFA to fill the gaps, you come out ahead in the long run

For example……(hypothetical)

Dubas trades Nylander for 3 prospects
Then signs Forsberg as UFA
Now you have Forsberg + 3 prospects instead of just Nylander
(Yes I realize FF will probably get 8.5m)

Vancouver is building around Demko, Hughes and Pettersen
They don’t need to stampede towards the clitoris yet
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Thursday @ 5:05 PM ET
I'm going to say it again, that Hagel trade looks like trash. 6 points in the playoffs. two first round picks for this guy.

Yes I get his salary is cheap but he only scored 4 goals after being traded and 2 were empty netters. If his points don't get close to what he got in Chicago it's a horrible trade. It's already not been good for this run.

- Aaron_85



Def in the not best trade column ...Can't win them all. Paul on the other hand looking like a nice little steal.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Thursday @ 5:20 PM ET
Is Red Lobster out of Campbell Soup? We need to know NOW!

Say chowder....

- Symba007

I'm sorry when did you learn English.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Thursday @ 5:54 PM ET
Def in the not best trade column ...Can't win them all. Paul on the other hand looking like a nice little steal.
- dozerD10


Agreed. Paul was a nice addition for cheap.
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