Ben Shelley: John Gibson could be Ducks’ last major trade piece

Mrazek Holl and Robertson
for Gibson and Comtois

2nd overall from devils for Gibson and the 22nd overall pick.

Mrazek Holl and Robertson
for Gibson and Comtois
- mr.sir

Mrazek and Nylander

Mrazek and Nylander
- GrimmdaGoalie

THIS! If Anaheim has to take Mrazek the Leafs have to throw in a sweetener!

I question whether Gibson really wants to be in Anaheim. The stark contrast between his numbers and Stolarz's numbers was incredible. They were both playing in front of the same defense and Stolarz had to sit on his ass for weeks at a time. Being Gibson is a Pittsburgh native I wonder if something like a Gibson for Jarry trade could be worked out and the Ducks will take back Marcus Pettersson to make the cap hits work since the Pens are up against it.

So . Apparently this needs to be said again. Teams don't trade #1 goaltenders unless they have too. And if you trade your never gonna get good value. Especially off a bad team like the Ducks. The Ducks are rebuilding. They don't have too anymore. Anaheim has plenty of prospects, cap space, depth that they could start building up right now. And trading Gibson only makes rebuilding more difficult.
Yes the Ducks do have Cal Clang and Luca Dostal in the system. But nether have shown true #1 potential. But they both seem to be NHL quality players. There ceilings are determined yet. And given the fact that NHL penny pinch on goaltening, there doesn't seem to be any way Oat Verbeek can win a trade. And it's not even necessary.
Going back to my last post. If Verbeek really wants to trade Gibson he just needs to set a price. If it's meet then you do a trade. If it's not, then keep Gibson. We are not discounting a player value when there's no reason to. Just like Jackob Chychun. We Gibson has a long term contract at a fair price. Two 1st round picks and a good prospect should be the minimum. Teams shouldn't even call if they not offering at least this much.
Now as for the Devils and the #2 pick. Just swapping picks isn't really enough. It's close. But #2 for #10 and Gibson isn't fair value. It's really tempting. But lines have to be drawn. Because Anaheim isn't some outdoor swapmeet seellung goods at discount prices.

2nd overall from devils for Gibson and the 22nd overall pick.
- ChrisMS

That would be an awful trade for NJ. Sure we need a goalie, but not one who has term and dollars and has had an awful save % for nearly 3 years. NFW!

Being Gibson is a Pittsburgh native I wonder if something like a Gibson for Jarry trade could be worked out and the Ducks will take back Marcus Pettersson to make the cap hits work since the Pens are up against it.

Jarry has been more than worth his reasonable cap hit, he is not going for Gibby. But what about Washington? Sammy and Nick Jenson for Gibby.

Mrazek and Nylander
- GrimmdaGoalie

Have to retain some salary on Gibby to go to the Leafs, maybe $.75M is all.

Gibson is as much of a liability as he is an asset. Three years of mediocrity with a risky contract at a highly volatile position. A mid round pick would be the most any team should offer.

Wow. Somebody wrote about an underperforming/overpriced veteran without mentioning dumping his salary on Arizona.

That would be an awful trade for NJ. Sure we need a goalie, but not one who has term and dollars and has had an awful save % for nearly 3 years. NFW!
- Crushers68

It’s only awful if you believe nj is as bad as Ana at defense. Otherwise dripping back twenty spots in a weak draft to get a starter in a rough market for one is a dang good deal for nj

I question whether Gibson really wants to be in Anaheim. The stark contrast between his numbers and Stolarz's numbers was incredible. They were both playing in front of the same defense and Stolarz had to sit on his ass for weeks at a time. Being Gibson is a Pittsburgh native I wonder if something like a Gibson for Jarry trade could be worked out and the Ducks will take back Marcus Pettersson to make the cap hits work since the Pens are up against it.
- duxcup07

Tempting. Could you offer more cap relief to cement the deal? Take a zucker for comtois as well? Pens throw in a not 1st round pick? 😇

THIS! If Anaheim has to take Mrazek the Leafs have to throw in a sweetener!
- duxcup07

A sweetener yeah ok … not go completely brain dead…

2nd overall from devils for Gibson and the 22nd overall pick.
- ChrisMS

No way the Devils do this…

Gibson is as much of a liability as he is an asset. Three years of mediocrity with a risky contract at a highly volatile position. A mid round pick would be the most any team should offer.
- jfkst1

They should be able to get more than that … just as Manson & Lindholm have benefited from playing with better guys so would Gibson.

No way the Devils do this…
- dozerD10

No doubt. Not doing these kinda of moves is why they are where they are and where they have been for quite some time.

So . Apparently this needs to be said again. Teams don't trade #1 goaltenders unless they have too. And if you trade your never gonna get good value. Especially off a bad team like the Ducks. The Ducks are rebuilding. They don't have too anymore. Anaheim has plenty of prospects, cap space, depth that they could start building up right now. And trading Gibson only makes rebuilding more difficult.
Yes the Ducks do have Cal Clang and Luca Dostal in the system. But nether have shown true #1 potential. But they both seem to be NHL quality players. There ceilings are determined yet. And given the fact that NHL penny pinch on goaltening, there doesn't seem to be any way Oat Verbeek can win a trade. And it's not even necessary.
Going back to my last post. If Verbeek really wants to trade Gibson he just needs to set a price. If it's meet then you do a trade. If it's not, then keep Gibson. We are not discounting a player value when there's no reason to. Just like Jackob Chychun. We Gibson has a long term contract at a fair price. Two 1st round picks and a good prospect should be the minimum. Teams shouldn't even call if they not offering at least this much.
Now as for the Devils and the #2 pick. Just swapping picks isn't really enough. It's close. But #2 for #10 and Gibson isn't fair value. It's really tempting. But lines have to be drawn. Because Anaheim isn't some outdoor swapmeet seellung goods at discount prices.
- Eman87654

Yeah, I get it. I used to have your opinion. Gibson will still be good when the kids get good. Now explain to me why Gibson's numbers were so horrific after the All-Star break when the Ducks fell out of contention while Stolarz remained solid playing under the same conditions in the back of the same team? That's why I ask, does Gibson REALLY want tp be in Anaheim?

Gibson is as much of a liability as he is an asset. Three years of mediocrity with a risky contract at a highly volatile position. A mid round pick would be the most any team should offer.
- jfkst1

That's a fair statement. But it's also very true over the last 3 years the Ducks have played horrible In Front of him. Mostly due to the rebuild. The objective way to look at Gibson is that he's a good buy low candidate. You can easily see him rebounding on a better team.

Tempting. Could you offer more cap relief to cement the deal? Take a zucker for comtois as well? Pens throw in a not 1st round pick? 😇
- ChrisMS

I'd do it. Comtois is another player who could probably benefit from a change of scenery. Fortunately, Zucker only has one year left on that abomination of a contract and the Ducks need to get to the cap floor. This works!

Yeah, I get it. I used to have your opinion. Gibson will still be good when the kids get good. Now explain to me why Gibson's numbers were so horrific after the All-Star break when the Ducks fell out of contention while Stolarz remained solid playing under the same conditions in the back of the same team? That's why I ask, does Gibson REALLY want tp be in Anaheim?
- duxcup07

I don't know. Publicly he's said he wants to win. And the Ducks aren't winning. Gibson spent more than half of last season just changing his mechanics. So obviously he does care enough to try to make himself better.

They should be able to get more than that … just as Manson & Lindholm have benefited from playing with better guys so would Gibson.
- dozerD10

Manson yes, Lindholm...not so much. Don't get me wrong, I love Hampus, but the dude is hurt ALL THE TIME! That's why I think GMPV would only give him 4 years. Boston is going to regret that 8-year deal. He's signed until 2030!

I don't know.
- Eman87654

Publicly he's said he wants to win.

And the Ducks aren't winning. Gibson spent more than half of last season just changing his mechanics. So obviously he does care enough to try to make himself better.

Exactly! Anaheim probably isn't going to start winning regularly for another year or two.

Manson yes, Lindholm...not so much. Don't get me wrong, I love Hampus, but the dude is hurt ALL THE TIME! That's why I think GMPV would only give him 4 years. Boston is going to regret that 8-year deal. He's signed until 2030!
- duxcup07

Yep 8 yrs is nuts. Love me some Hampus but as you’ve stated, staying healthy has been more and more of an issue.