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Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

May 27 @ 1:23 AM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Oilers Take the Series in five — The NHL Once Again Shows Bias
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

May 27 @ 1:34 AM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Oilers Take the Series in five — The NHL Once Again Shows Bias
- Trevor_Neufeld_


Funny how Bieksa and Botterill, 2 retired professional hockey players both agreed it shouldn't have counted.
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

May 27 @ 1:50 AM ET
Funny how Bieksa and Botterill, 2 retired professional hockey players both agreed it shouldn't have counted.
- Oildrum


Thank god their producers don’t have any input in what they say or whether they should disagree with each other during the panel.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

May 27 @ 1:58 AM ET
I'm not going to say I disagree, but any team on the losing end will call as sour grapes. Just ask Toronto.

Maybe instead of blaming off ice officials, just say poop happens.

Sure, it wasn't an amazing OT goal. But not everything is a conspiracy against you.

Leafs do that every year. Sometimes it just isn't meant to be.

Kane was a huge factor this series. The controversy, the signing after the (scandal) fact... That all a conspiracy, too?

It's a game of buried chances, and in the end, Edmonton blocked more shots and gave Smith the better chance.

Is what it is.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

May 27 @ 1:59 AM ET
Thank god their producers don’t have any input in what they say or whether they should disagree with each other during the panel.
- Trevor_Neufeld_


Ok then. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

May 27 @ 2:14 AM ET
If it makes you feel any better, the Jarnkrok goal was the result of a clearing attempt that was inadvertently blocked by a referee.

The Coleman goal should have counted… but you can’t have it both ways.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 27 @ 2:20 AM ET
First season in a long time where I have nothing but positive feelings about the team. I always see the best possible outcome for the Flames, but they did way better than most people thought.

Hopefully, Gaudreau recognizes that Calgary is the best spot for him and sticks around for 8 more years.

Playoff Tkachuk is a frustrating enigma. He's either the best player on the ice or is invisible aside from his awful defensive play. It's going to be tough figuring out what to do with him. He's probably not going to be worth the contract he demands, but they can't really afford not to pay him either.

Mangiapane is kind of in the same boat. Way too hot and cold to commit a major contract to. I'd be quietly trying to figure out if he was worth trading.

I think it would be a mistake to re-sign Zadorov and Gudbranson unless it's for a year or two and not much of a raise. Anything besides that and either contract probably gets real ugly pretty quick.

Really no idea what to do with Kylington. He was amazing this year, but what kind of contact does one year warrant? 4 years around 3 million would probably be ideal.

I think holding on to Monahan for another year is probably the best move unless they can get some actual value back. There were some flashes from him this year and who knows how injured he actually was this year. If he can return at 100% and be effective again as a 2nd or 3rd line centre, the Flames are in a great position to improve on this year.

If Gaudreau moves on, trade everyone.
itwasin
Location: It Was In - June 5 2004, AB
Joined: 09.28.2013

May 27 @ 2:32 AM ET
Fact 1: The Oilers were clearly the better team and were a virtual certainty to win the series anyway.
Fact 2: The odds of any team winning 3 games in a row against the Oilers right now is is so close to zero it doesn't matter.
Fact 3: The only way the puck was not going to cross the goal line due to momentum was if Coleman had kicked it clear.
Fact 4: The NHL screwed up yet again by insisting on having the last word when it really didn't matter.
Fact 5: If I was Katz I'd be pissed that I likely got cheated out of the revenue for an extra home game by some nameless flunkie 2000 miles away from Alberta.
hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

May 27 @ 2:58 AM ET
"I'm not going to say I disagree, but any team on the losing end will call as sour grapes. Just ask Toronto.

Maybe instead of blaming off ice officials, just say poop happens.

Sure, it wasn't an amazing OT goal. But not everything is a conspiracy against you.

Leafs do that every year. Sometimes it just isn't meant to be.

Kane was a huge factor this series. The controversy, the signing after the (scandal) fact... That all a conspiracy, too?

It's a game of buried chances, and in the end, Edmonton blocked more shots and gave Smith the better chance.

Is what it is."
Darksyde


SHUT UP! No one is talking about the OT goal. We are all talking about the good goal that was taken away by the league without any challenge from the Oilers. You focus on your habs.
hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

May 27 @ 3:03 AM ET
Ok Fellow Flames fans, we have to give credit where it is due. Yes we lost but let's all put aside our sour feelings and Congratulate the League and the Zebras for job well done. They made their wet dream of McDavid vs McKinnon come true. Congrats to Bettman and the league and the zebras for this outstanding accomplishment.

TheGambierian
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Gambier Island, BC
Joined: 10.06.2014

May 27 @ 3:08 AM ET
Coleman's illegitimate goal was rightfully called back by the league. Edmonton had more legitimate goals called back in the series than this. Calgary doesn't have the top end talent to compete plain and simple.
hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

May 27 @ 3:08 AM ET
This is the way I look at it guys, and I have been saying this since Game 1 and some people were attacking me for saying this.

we should not be socked to see games as fixed games. Think about it if you are a business owner and you are trying to promote your business so you can attract more customers, what would you do? Would you put forward your best product to promote or a subpar product to promote?

If a car company wants to promote their cars, they will show the best car in the advertisement so more people can buy it. It is no different in hockey, unfortunately. Putting McDavid vs McKinnon is the best product for NHL to promote their game and make more money.

When people will watch McDavid vs McKinnon show, they will get entertained and entertainment means they will likely go to games, and buy team-related merchandise ... so this attracts more fans, especially new fans and help the sport grow for more profit.

So ultimately it is all about profit to the league. We as fans get emotionally attached to our team and that is the exact reason why we are taken advantage of by the league. Sad. Very sad that they do this but end of the day it's business for them.

hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

May 27 @ 3:09 AM ET
Coleman's illegitimate goal was rightfully called back by the league. Edmonton had more legitimate goals called back in the series than this. Calgary doesn't have the top end talent to compete plain and simple.
- TheGambierian



Just wait ... you will be out soon enought and then you can say if you had talent to compete with Avs lol
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

May 27 @ 3:09 AM ET
Ok Fellow Flames fans, we have to give credit where it is due. Yes we lost but let's all put aside our sour feelings and Congratulate the League and the Zebras for job well done. They made their wet dream of McDavid vs McKinnon come true. Congrats to Bettman and the league and the zebras for this outstanding accomplishment.


- hockey4hockey


Flames blew countless leads in the series. Don't blame this on the reffs.
hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

May 27 @ 3:18 AM ET
Flames blew countless leads in the series. Don't blame this on the reffs.
- Oildrum



Maybe the leads that Flames blew was because refs kept giving us penalties and no calling much on Oilers to change the momentum in favor of the Oilers. I have watched hockey my whole life, i can tell you how bias reffs were in this against the Flames. Also the call back goal on Coleman was ridiculous as it gets. No challenge from the Oilers yet Toronto decided to call back the goal. If this doesn't prove fixed, then nothing can. They want McDavid vs McKinnon, it's that simple. It's all about putting great product on the stage to showcase to the world to drive your profits up.

Our emotions as fans whether you are a Flames fan or an Oilers fan are played with by the league. You guys won today but your time to complain will come soon. Then you will see that we are all just in here to be taken advantage of to help league reach higher profits.
henny1953
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Aalborg
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 27 @ 3:34 AM ET
Foghorn Leghorn has spoken 5 times, can't You hear him ?

There is no joy in Mudville tonight.
As the Mighty Flambes are out !
henny1953
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Aalborg
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 27 @ 3:40 AM ET
Maybe the leads that Flames blew was because refs kept giving us penalties and no calling much on Oilers to change the momentum in favor of the Oilers. I have watched hockey my whole life, i can tell you how bias reffs were in this against the Flames. Also the call back goal on Coleman was ridiculous as it gets. No challenge from the Oilers yet Toronto decided to call back the goal. If this doesn't prove fixed, then nothing can. They want McDavid vs McKinnon, it's that simple. It's all about putting great product on the stage to showcase to the world to drive your profits up.

Our emotions as fans whether you are a Flames fan or an Oilers fan are played with by the league. You guys won today but your time to complain will come soon. Then you will see that we are all just in here to be taken advantage of to help league reach higher profits.

- hockey4hockey



Define your whole life ? Refs, the usual easily targetted scapegoats.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 27 @ 4:26 AM ET
Sorry flames fans but the series was not lost by one questionable no-goal.

Sure they may have taken advantage of the tide, but odds are they wouldn't have controlled it for 2 more games. The Oilers likely would have taken game 6 at home with home ice advantage.

I honestly thought the Flames were gonna take game 5. In a tight game, but then McDavid or Draisaitl would go supernova in game 6 and they would secure the series then.

Calling Av's in 5 next round.

The Coleman no-goal is about as 50/50 as it can go. Yes he obviously intends to direct it in. Yes his foot moves forward prior to contact in a directing motion. Whether it's a kicking motion is left to interpretation. IMO he moves his foot forward to intentionally direct the puck across the line, but its not a kicking motion. But the intention of the rule is to try and restrict goals to come from the players stick, not pushed or directed in off a skate or body part. If deflected in is one thing, but directed is another.

Whether it would have crossed the line without Coleman's push is also questionable. it looks to me like it probably would have crossed the line, but the spin may have stopped it.

Either way, as an Oiler fan, I didn't want to win questionably, but odds were still in their favor.

Good luck in the offseason. Good luck resigning Johnny or finding a replacement. If you can't resign Johnny I think Giroux should be a target. Solid 2 way C who can rotate with Lindy as the 1/2C. Staple Tkachuk on one line and TT/Mangiapane on the other and find another top line winger for the other.

Afraid Johnny is gone if the Flames are even rumored to shop Monny. Those guys are the best of buds off ice and if management attempts to break them up I think Johnny will consider heading closer to home. Even their ladies are best of friends. This could be a weird offseason in Flames country.
Joetaylor0009
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Henderson , NV
Joined: 01.11.2017

May 27 @ 4:28 AM ET
I didn't get to see the play live but to hear the call was a goal on the ice and Woodcroft didn't challenge it but the league decided to review it and overturned it has to be soul crushing as a fan. I'm not a fan of theirs but am a fan of good playoff hockey and the fact the league robbed Calgary of this one is such garbage. They could have played another game possibly and who's to say the Oilers wouldn't eventually win but by God, figure it the (frank) out NHL 🙄
gforce
Boston Bruins
Location: People's Republic
Joined: 11.18.2007

May 27 @ 4:56 AM ET
Terrible call but Just stop with the rest
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 27 @ 5:30 AM ET
I didn't get to see the play live but to hear the call was a goal on the ice and Woodcroft didn't challenge it but the league decided to review it and overturned it has to be soul crushing as a fan. I'm not a fan of theirs but am a fan of good playoff hockey and the fact the league robbed Calgary of this one is such garbage. They could have played another game possibly and who's to say the Oilers wouldn't eventually win but by God, figure it the (frank) out NHL 🙄
- Joetaylor0009


Flames fans will say it was a blatent attempt to create a McDavid vs MacKinnon, Oilers fans will say it was a blatent kick. Fair fans will say it was questionable either way. Personally I think Coleman knew what he was doing. He intended to direct it in without "kicking" it, but his foot did make a forward motion. I think Sutter knew that was his intention too based off post game interviews. Based off the language in the rules... it probably should have counted. Based off the meaning of the rules... the correct call was made.
Donovan
Calgary Flames
Location: Princeton, ON
Joined: 09.20.2015

May 27 @ 5:53 AM ET
If Coleman knew what he was doing I expect him to score 40 soon with that much skill just sayin.

I suppose the better team won, the oilers finally holding on, suddenly if they get stone cold and lose 4 straight that’s the leagues fault.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

May 27 @ 6:38 AM ET
Wow. Sour Grapes blog or what? It was pretty clear to me the better team won this series. Show some dignity.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

May 27 @ 6:44 AM ET
This is the way I look at it guys, and I have been saying this since Game 1 and some people were attacking me for saying this.

we should not be socked to see games as fixed games. Think about it if you are a business owner and you are trying to promote your business so you can attract more customers, what would you do? Would you put forward your best product to promote or a subpar product to promote?

If a car company wants to promote their cars, they will show the best car in the advertisement so more people can buy it. It is no different in hockey, unfortunately. Putting McDavid vs McKinnon is the best product for NHL to promote their game and make more money.

When people will watch McDavid vs McKinnon show, they will get entertained and entertainment means they will likely go to games, and buy team-related merchandise ... so this attracts more fans, especially new fans and help the sport grow for more profit.

So ultimately it is all about profit to the league. We as fans get emotionally attached to our team and that is the exact reason why we are taken advantage of by the league. Sad. Very sad that they do this but end of the day it's business for them.

- hockey4hockey


NHL Hockey isn’t fixed. You guys are sore losers. The fact of the matter is your team found themselves on the brink of elimination after only 4 games. That’s why you lost the series, not because of a called back goal in game 5. The better team won, plain and simple .
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

May 27 @ 6:53 AM ET
Colemans eyes tracked the puck and his skate. This is probably what convinced them to overturn the call. But yeah....bad call.
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