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Kevin Allen
Commissioner
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
Joined: 02.08.2020

Oct 22 @ 7:29 PM ET
Kevin Allen: Anti-Vaxxers, Eichel's surgery issues may open door to more player rights Will vaccinations and medical options be an issue for the next CBA?
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Oct 23 @ 10:36 AM ET
Of course Laidlaw would put his teammates above his personal freedom, He's a neanderthal and he's Canadian which makes him a brainwashed socialist that doesn't understand what freedom really means.
bluelineenforcer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 10.21.2019

Oct 23 @ 11:03 AM ET
Kevin, this is a thoroughly dishonest take with an absolute lack of integrity. Just because he chose not to get this specific vaccination, you made a conscious decision to slander him as anti-vax, when in actuality, you have no idea. You have no idea why he chose not to. It could be he is allergic to some of the ingredients. It could be he has family who had adverse reactions to it. It may even be religious and he doesn’t want anything derived from fetal cells in his body. It’s his choice and you made the conscious decision to infer he made that decision for nefarious reasons. The fact is, he hasn’t revealed the reason behind his decision, yet you think you know, and you do not.

It amazes me how many grown adults have their feelings hurt by the medical decisions of people they don’t know and in most cases, by people they’ll never meet. His teammates are supporting his decision. His team and management are supporting his decision, yet YOU think YOU know what’s best for his health, when in truth, you know NOTHING.
Kevin Allen
Commissioner
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
Joined: 02.08.2020

Oct 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
My point on this was not whether Tyler was right or wrong. My point was that because Bertuzzi made his choice and Eichel is trying to have the surgery he wants, those players may have opened the door to achieving more freedoms for players on the next CBA. Players have actually come a long way with regard to having a greater say in their careers. I think issues like vaccinations and medical care are the next battleground for players against management.


Kevin, this is a thoroughly dishonest take with an absolute lack of integrity. Just because he chose not to get this specific vaccination, you made a conscious decision to slander him as anti-vax, when in actuality, you have no idea. You have no idea why he chose not to. It could be he is allergic to some of the ingredients. It could be he has family who had adverse reactions to it. It may even be religious and he doesn’t want anything derived from fetal cells in his body. It’s his choice and you made the conscious decision to infer he made that decision for nefarious reasons. The fact is, he hasn’t revealed the reason behind his decision, yet you think you know, and you do not.

It amazes me how many grown adults have their feelings hurt by the medical decisions of people they don’t know and in most cases, by people they’ll never meet. His teammates are supporting his decision. His team and management are supporting his decision, yet YOU think YOU know what’s best for his health, when in truth, you know NOTHING.

- bluelineenforcer

Kevin Allen
Commissioner
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
Joined: 02.08.2020

Oct 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
Thanks for the comment. I will pass this along to Tom because I know he will get a kick out of it. He's been an American citizen for a while now and very much a conservative when it comes to his politics.

Of course Laidlaw would put his teammates above his personal freedom, He's a neanderthal and he's Canadian which makes him a brainwashed socialist that doesn't understand what freedom really means.
- Shady1962

BoltsFan1993
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: NS
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
Kevin, this is a thoroughly dishonest take with an absolute lack of integrity. Just because he chose not to get this specific vaccination, you made a conscious decision to slander him as anti-vax, when in actuality, you have no idea. You have no idea why he chose not to. It could be he is allergic to some of the ingredients. It could be he has family who had adverse reactions to it. It may even be religious and he doesn’t want anything derived from fetal cells in his body. It’s his choice and you made the conscious decision to infer he made that decision for nefarious reasons. The fact is, he hasn’t revealed the reason behind his decision, yet you think you know, and you do not.

It amazes me how many grown adults have their feelings hurt by the medical decisions of people they don’t know and in most cases, by people they’ll never meet. His teammates are supporting his decision. His team and management are supporting his decision, yet YOU think YOU know what’s best for his health, when in truth, you know NOTHING.

- bluelineenforcer


This comment is unwarranted.
DanielEtvs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.10.2006

Oct 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
I don't know anyone who is an "Anti-Vaxxer" , but I know dozens of people who are anti Vaccine mandate. You should check your jour alistic integrity on this Kevin. Just because you are afraid afraid to use your Lions tickets and have an extreme liberal worldview; doesn't mean you should slander the rest of society. I know you see yourself as an old time writer who has high integrity, yet almost everything you say on this site shows your lefty biases. Like when you said "Trudeau was good for Canada, but wrong fot the NHL" . Now you speak of Bertuzzis Canadian citizenship as if it is some profound thing that his own socialist govt won't let him play. You - who sits there sedentary in your TWO houses while applauding massive mandates and higher taxes and going down to Lottle Casars 41 times a year to feast on the media spread while Detroit suffers - sniping at a man who has the courage to take a stance, is sad. You even openly tell Mike Augello every other show that your wife can't watch because of him. Not a very liberal onpen minded family eh? Mean spirited as hell, even though you feign as if it's in a joking manner. It comes off as very mean and petty. Surprise surprise Mike Augello is Conservative and it grinds your gears. Just like its mean spirited and wrong of you to use your platform to slander those who believe in freedom as "anti-vaxxers". Let them eat cake, right Kevin?
CGYFlames13
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.13.2021

Oct 23 @ 2:43 PM ET
Kevin Allen: Anti-Vaxxers, Eichel's surgery issues may open door to more player rights
Will vaccinations and medical options be an issue for the next CBA?

- Kevin Allen


Vaccinated players in the NHL are in the minority. The NHL can say what they want, 85%+ are unvaccinated.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Oct 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Of course Laidlaw would put his teammates above his personal freedom, He's a neanderthal and he's Canadian which makes him a brainwashed socialist that doesn't understand what freedom really means.
- Shady1962

c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Oct 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Too bad this “vaccine” doesn’t work. You can still get it, spread it, get hospitalized and die from COVID. Not to mention the horrific side effects and possibility of death from this “vaccine”. Don’t vilify people who don’t want to put this stuff in their body, especially if they already had COVID or are in the demographic where hey won’t have serious symptoms.
hockeygm
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: Reno, NV
Joined: 05.12.2008

Oct 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
Kevin, your point is taken and worthwhile. The world of professional sports has changed dramatically over the past several decades. Baseball, which is what I played, used to have the Reserve Clause and Curt Floods courage changed that to the Free Agency systems we see today. (Baseball back then paid Single A players $500 a month and had no idea what a Rotator Cuff was amongst other things) Now with the Bertuzzi, Price, Eichel, and other situations, we are seeing an evolution in how players will be treated in the future and what additional says they have in their own care. That's not a bad thing. Baseball has greatly evolved since I played so many decades ago to where the treatment of prospects, medically and otherwise has changed form "There are thousands of other just like you so Seeya Later Bye to the care we see today..and the evolution of medical science and their wondrous breakthroughs.

Liberals and The Media have divided the Nations with their Anti Vaxxer rhetoric. The CDC has posted on their website that taking a vaccine does not prevent one from becoming infected or infecting someone else. It is not a magic bullet. Like any other medicine, there are side effects, some of which can cause serious harm or death. One huge potential dangerous side effect is not just the vaccine itself and how it might seriously harm the body directly but also this: How might this vaccine interact with other medications or supplements that the person is taking?(Grapefruit and certain medications can cause you to become very ill or die as an example) I can point to numerous cases where physicians had no clue how the various medications they prescribed would interact with each other and those synergies caused people to be hospitalized or die. I just had a case where a dentist prescribed an antibiotic after a root canal and crown procedure and had no clue how it interacted with the patients other medications. Said person ended up in the hospital with GI bleeding..It happens more often than you think. You have to be your own patient advocate these days and learn what questions to ask...
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
This comment is unwarranted.
- BoltsFan1993


If your name was Jack or Zuck maybe you could ban him. Free speech is such a pesky inconvenience,eh.

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Of course Laidlaw would put his teammates above his personal freedom, He's a neanderthal and he's Canadian which makes him a brainwashed socialist that doesn't understand what freedom really means.
- Shady1962


Hey neighbour! Actually, Canada is a market economy and a parliamentary democracy. We share values of freedom of speech, religion, assembly, and many others with our American friends. Have a great day!
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
Too bad this “vaccine” doesn’t work. You can still get it, spread it, get hospitalized and die from COVID. Not to mention the horrific side effects and possibility of death from this “vaccine”. Don’t vilify people who don’t want to put this stuff in their body, especially if they already had COVID or are in the demographic where hey won’t have serious symptoms.
- c1067


Or to put it another way, the vaccine is very safe and effective and is the way out of this pandemic.
c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Oct 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
Or to put it another way, the vaccine is very safe and effective and is the way out of this pandemic.
- Zezel

Is it?
CGYFlames13
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.13.2021

Oct 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
Or to put it another way, the vaccine is very safe and effective and is the way out of this pandemic.
- Zezel


Another Trudeau paid actor.

I've lived in this country my entire life. I've never met anyone who thinks like you.
BoltsFan1993
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: NS
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
If your name was Jack or Zuck maybe you could ban him. Free speech is such a pesky inconvenience,eh.
- Minnyhock


It just seems like maybe he misunderstood the articlr. I read the full article and I don't see any hate. Just a pov where things could be going. The title maybe needs a little work, but that's all I see. Unless he has a history I'm unfamiliar with.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Oct 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
Vaccinated players in the NHL are in the minority. The NHL can say what they want, 85%+ are unvaccinated.
- CGYFlames13


Preach. Evander is actually suspended for 21 games for running a fake vaccine card scheme. Almost every nhl player has an authentic Kane in their wallets. He pled down to just admitting his own card.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
Is it?
- c1067


That's been proven on an unprecedented massive scale now. It's one of the safest, most effective vaccines ever, developed under pressure in 1/8th the time of most vaccines - incredible. One of humanity's most elegant achievements. Thank you, President Trump!
CGYFlames13
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.13.2021

Oct 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
Preach. Evander is actually suspended for 21 games for running a fake vaccine card scheme. Almost every nhl player has an authentic Kane in their wallets. He pled down to just admitting his own card.
- ChrisMS


Some stats show that 92%+ of NHL players identify as republicans or conservatives. There is zero chance only 4 players are unvaccinated. I would believe the opposite that only 4 players are vaccinated.

It's a scam.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
Another Trudeau paid actor.

I've lived in this country my entire life. I've never met anyone who thinks like you.

- CGYFlames13


Do you leave the house?
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Oct 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
Kevin, your point is taken and worthwhile. The world of professional sports has changed dramatically over the past several decades. Baseball, which is what I played, used to have the Reserve Clause and Curt Floods courage changed that to the Free Agency systems we see today. (Baseball back then paid Single A players $500 a month and had no idea what a Rotator Cuff was amongst other things) Now with the Bertuzzi, Price, Eichel, and other situations, we are seeing an evolution in how players will be treated in the future and what additional says they have in their own care. That's not a bad thing. Baseball has greatly evolved since I played so many decades ago to where the treatment of prospects, medically and otherwise has changed form "There are thousands of other just like you so Seeya Later Bye to the care we see today..and the evolution of medical science and their wondrous breakthroughs.

Liberals and The Media have divided the Nations with their Anti Vaxxer rhetoric. The CDC has posted on their website that taking a vaccine does not prevent one from becoming infected or infecting someone else. It is not a magic bullet. Like any other medicine, there are side effects, some of which can cause serious harm or death. One huge potential dangerous side effect is not just the vaccine itself and how it might seriously harm the body directly but also this: How might this vaccine interact with other medications or supplements that the person is taking?(Grapefruit and certain medications can cause you to become very ill or die as an example) I can point to numerous cases where physicians had no clue how the various medications they prescribed would interact with each other and those synergies caused people to be hospitalized or die. I just had a case where a dentist prescribed an antibiotic after a root canal and crown procedure and had no clue how it interacted with the patients other medications. Said person ended up in the hospital with GI bleeding..It happens more often than you think. You have to be your own patient advocate these days and learn what questions to ask...

- hockeygm



I drink a gallon of grapefruit juice every day for years! Then I get my vaccine and boom! An ulcer.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
Some stats show that 92%+ of NHL players identify as republicans or conservatives. There is zero chance only 4 players are unvaccinated. I would believe the opposite that only 4 players are vaccinated.

It's a scam.

- CGYFlames13


Wow, that's fascinating! What else?
CGYFlames13
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.13.2021

Oct 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
Do you leave the house?
- Zezel


I've gone my entire life never ever knowing, meeting or encountering a liberal. I don't believe they exist. Some are paid. Let's be honest, there hasn't been a legitimate Canadian election in decades.
c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Oct 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
That's been proven on an unprecedented massive scale now. It's one of the safest, most effective vaccines ever, developed under pressure in 1/8th the time of most vaccines - incredible. One of humanity's most elegant achievements. Thank you, President Trump!
- Zezel

If it’s so great why is the Biden Regime forcing people to take it, especially since they said they wouldn’t take it this time last year? No one know how safe it is. It’s way too early. There is such a thing as long term effects.
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