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Anthony Travalgia
Joined: 05.07.2019

Aug 13 @ 12:10 PM ET
Anthony Travalgia: Jets sign Neal Pionk and Andrew Copp
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Aug 13 @ 12:43 PM ET
I hope the Jets sign and trade Copp while his value is at the highest. As a UFA at the end of the season he will be gone and the Jets have some NHL ready draft and develop players that can replace Copp.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 13 @ 1:55 PM ET
twitter is saying Jets are trying to acquire the older Scechnekov brother ( not the Carolina one !! ) the one who used to play for Detroit was a former first round pick but never caught on in detroit. i think he shoots left but plays right wing. cant say i've seen him play so have no thoughts but some guys in here love a good reclamation project.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 13 @ 3:35 PM ET
twitter is saying Jets are trying to acquire the older Scechnekov brother ( not the Carolina one !! ) the one who used to play for Detroit was a former first round pick but never caught on in detroit. i think he shoots left but plays right wing. cant say i've seen him play so have no thoughts but some guys in here love a good reclamation project.
- Ross77


I am one of those guys. Low risk, high reward reclamation’s like Evgeni Svechnikov could end up working out great! If he sucks, then there is nothing gained and not really anything lost.

This is also the move I have been begging Chevy to make for sometime.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 13 @ 3:58 PM ET
I am one of those guys. Low risk, high reward reclamation’s like Evgeni Svechnikov could end up working out great! If he sucks, then there is nothing gained and not really anything lost.

This is also the move I have been begging Chevy to make for sometime.

- TheUltimateJet

I agree, I like this a lot more that taking on a reclamation project that comes with a high salary and cap hit.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Aug 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
I agree, I like this a lot more that taking on a reclamation project that comes with a high salary and cap hit.
- Ross77


The reclamation part would be his history of one shoulder injury after another.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
The reclamation part would be his history of one shoulder injury after another.
- jetsnation

The Detroit blog paints him as a great kid with a great attitude so I hope we do bring him in
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
The Detroit blog paints him as a great kid with a great attitude so I hope we do bring him in
- Ross77


We should be doing our best to bring in as many promising reclamation projects as possible, since “nobody wants to play in Winnipeg”.

I am still all over the idea of bringing in Bobby Ryan.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Aug 13 @ 8:20 PM ET
We should be doing our best to bring in as many promising reclamation projects as possible, since “nobody wants to play in Winnipeg”.

I am still all over the idea of bringing in Bobby Ryan.

- TheUltimateJet


Totally agree Ultimate, have thought this for a long time that since the Jets do have some challenges in attracting talent they should look for reclamation projects to fill holes in the lineup and bring in talent, Detroit used to be the kings of turning reclamation projects into good useful players, could be a good strategy for the Jets.

I mean I'd much rather see the drafted and developed prospects be given a legit chance to make it BUT taking on a reclamation project is something I'd be fine with, I recall many hockey talking heads, writers and bloggers questioning wtf Sakic was doing when he signed no goals Nickushkin yet that worked out fairly well for the Avs, if we're going to block a prospects path I'd much rather see it being blocked by a low cost/risk reclamation project with upside then by the G.Bourque's and Letestu's of the league.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Aug 14 @ 6:23 PM ET
Olli Jokinen, Eric Fehr, Brossoit, Beaulieu, Kulikov, Setoguchi, Tlusty

Are a few past (one current) that come to mind as reclamation projects. There are a few others that could fit the description of 'project'. Varying success with this group, some careers salvaged.

A challenge of actually signing a successful reclaimation is the question of when do they play? not much time left on the PP, 2nd line is strong, 3rd line has one spot open for a player who might score 10-15 goals and draw a lot of tough assignments requiring disciplined play, 4th line takes lineup spot away from a young player who is at least as cheap and has equal upside to their career. What kind of a free agent would want to enter those circumstances? the field is small for what would fit us fan's definition of a worthy project.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 15 @ 1:09 AM ET
Olli Jokinen, Eric Fehr, Brossoit, Beaulieu, Kulikov, Setoguchi, Tlusty

Are a few past (one current) that come to mind as reclamation projects. There are a few others that could fit the description of 'project'. Varying success with this group, some careers salvaged.

A challenge of actually signing a successful reclaimation is the question of when do they play? not much time left on the PP, 2nd line is strong, 3rd line has one spot open for a player who might score 10-15 goals and draw a lot of tough assignments requiring disciplined play, 4th line takes lineup spot away from a young player who is at least as cheap and has equal upside to their career. What kind of a free agent would want to enter those circumstances? the field is small for what would fit us fan's definition of a worthy project.

- 2.0


None of the players you mentioned were considered reclamation projects. Setoguchi was traded for almost the same package we traded for Brendan Dillon. Kulikov was considered the prize free agent defenseman the year signed in Winnipeg. Beaulieau was a trade deadline deal that was designed to shore up our blue line. Broissant was brought in to be our back-up for Hellebyuck, mostly due to his relationship with Hellebyuck.Eric Fehr was brought in to be our second line winger. He was coming off of double shoulder surgery when he signed and that was also during the Jets unnatural season when there was tones of excitement for the Winnipeg returning to the NHL. And, finally Jokinen was signed to be our second line center.

I don’t see any part of that as being “reclamation”.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Aug 15 @ 9:08 AM ET
Totally agree Ultimate, have thought this for a long time that since the Jets do have some challenges in attracting talent they should look for reclamation projects to fill holes in the lineup and bring in talent, Detroit used to be the kings of turning reclamation projects into good useful players, could be a good strategy for the Jets.

I mean I'd much rather see the drafted and developed prospects be given a legit chance to make it BUT taking on a reclamation project is something I'd be fine with, I recall many hockey talking heads, writers and bloggers questioning wtf Sakic was doing when he signed no goals Nickushkin yet that worked out fairly well for the Avs, if we're going to block a prospects path I'd much rather see it being blocked by a low cost/risk reclamation project with upside then by the G.Bourque's and Letestu's of the league.

- JetFuel


Anything Chevy does now including Svechnikov would be to add to the depth at this stage for when injuries inevitably happen. There might be $1 MM or less of cap to play with so I would not expect any more deals that move the needle much.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:47 PM ET
Who was Svech’s center in junior ???
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 15 @ 4:33 PM ET
Who was Svech’s center in junior ???
- bennythehat

PLD, I see what you did there
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Aug 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
None of the players you mentioned were considered reclamation projects. Setoguchi was traded for almost the same package we traded for Brendan Dillon. Kulikov was considered the prize free agent defenseman the year signed in Winnipeg. Beaulieau was a trade deadline deal that was designed to shore up our blue line. Broissant was brought in to be our back-up for Hellebyuck, mostly due to his relationship with Hellebyuck.Eric Fehr was brought in to be our second line winger. He was coming off of double shoulder surgery when he signed and that was also during the Jets unnatural season when there was tones of excitement for the Winnipeg returning to the NHL. And, finally Jokinen was signed to be our second line center.

I don’t see any part of that as being “reclamation”.

- TheUltimateJet


They were all 'buy low' players. Kulikov was about hoping to regain the form he showed in Florida, Beaulieu was about a career not thriving given he was a mid 1st round pick, Broissoit was dismissed by everyone and there was plenty of doubt about whether he could be NHL caliber, Fehr's career was off track due to the injuries and was for a reclamation due to doubt about his durability and general plateau of his career.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 15 @ 10:08 PM ET
They were all 'buy low' players. Kulikov was about hoping to regain the form he showed in Florida, Beaulieu was about a career not thriving given he was a mid 1st round pick, Broissoit was dismissed by everyone and there was plenty of doubt about whether he could be NHL caliber, Fehr's career was off track due to the injuries and was for a reclamation due to doubt about his durability and general plateau of his career.
- 2.0


I don’t think offering Kulikov a 3 year deal at 4 million plus is “buy low”. Beaulieau was making close to 3 million when he was traded to Winnipeg. Fehr was great in Washington and I do believe was a cap causality and as a result signed in Winnipeg. Broissoit was always pegged as the back-up.

I guess we have different definitions of what reclamation means.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Aug 15 @ 11:50 PM ET
The Jets have signed their 2021 3rd round pick to his entry level contract, Belarusian LHD Dimitry Kuzmin.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Aug 16 @ 12:10 AM ET
The Jets have signed their 2021 3rd round pick to his entry level contract, Belarusian LHD Dimitry Kuzmin.
- JetFuel


Whether he makes the nhl or not I am cheering for the kid. Belarus is not a happy country right now, he will benefit from Jets resources to help him navigate the politics and getting him to the best development opportunities.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Aug 16 @ 10:59 AM ET
The Jets have signed their 2021 3rd round pick to his entry level contract, Belarusian LHD Dimitry Kuzmin.
- JetFuel



He was originally scheduled to play next season in the OHL, wasn't he?

Probably $800-$900,000 looks pretty damn good to this kid. Actually it would to me as well.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Aug 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
He was originally scheduled to play next season in the OHL, wasn't he?

Probably $800-$900,000 looks pretty damn good to this kid. Actually it would to me as well.

- grahamzky


and he will be in the OHL next season......
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Aug 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
and he will be in the OHL next season......
- bennythehat


Yea, pretty good chance, eh?
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Aug 16 @ 8:59 PM ET
Buff Come back please.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Aug 16 @ 10:23 PM ET
He was originally scheduled to play next season in the OHL, wasn't he?

Probably $800-$900,000 looks pretty damn good to this kid. Actually it would to me as well.

- grahamzky


Was supposed to play in the OHL this past season with Flint but due to the virus cancelling the OHL season he played in Belarus, where he'll play this upcoming season I have no idea.

Pretty sure he won't see much of that money until he starts playing in the organization either with the Jets or Moose, his AHL salary will be lower as well.

Hopefully he works out but damn is the organization flush with LHD especially smaller puck moving types.

JoMo, Heinola, Niku, Chisholm, Kuzmin Johannesson(not signed yet)
-That's a lot of the same kind of player.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 17 @ 1:30 PM ET
Buff Come back please.
- Byfuglien Ate Me


Mr. Ate Me, so good to see you posting. It’s been awhile. It is also cool that you are part of the NWO as that’s just too sweet!
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 17 @ 1:31 PM ET
Was supposed to play in the OHL this past season with Flint but due to the virus cancelling the OHL season he played in Belarus, where he'll play this upcoming season I have no idea.

Pretty sure he won't see much of that money until he starts playing in the organization either with the Jets or Moose, his AHL salary will be lower as well.

Hopefully he works out but damn is the organization flush with LHD especially smaller puck moving types.

JoMo, Heinola, Niku, Chisholm, Kuzmin Johannesson(not signed yet)
-That's a lot of the same kind of player.

- JetFuel


Chevy has a type. Unsure if Maurice likes his type.
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