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leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Aug 2 @ 9:22 PM ET
It’s funny. Apparently Nylander can’t produce without an elite centre, but when he does there’s some other excuse. Weird. Almost as if some people just hate the guy no matter what.
- Steven_Seagull


I had a problem with him for holding out a few years ago. The more I've thought about it though, that's a Dubas issue.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 9:45 PM ET
Why so triggered?
- Steven_Seagull

Ur a towel.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 2 @ 9:51 PM ET
Ur a towel.
- Arctic_AARDVARK



jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:00 PM ET
We will never win with soft players like Willie.

Isn’t Marner soft?
Yeah but he scores a ton of points.

But hasn’t Marner struggled to score the last few playoffs?
Yeah but he is a top scorer in the regular season so he will eventually score in the playoffs.

But didn’t Willie just score a lot in the playoffs?
Yeah but he is soft.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 2 @ 10:02 PM ET

- Scabeh

jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:03 PM ET
We will never win with soft players like Willie.

Isn’t Marner soft?
Yeah but he scores a ton of points.

But hasn’t Marner struggled to score the last few playoffs?
Yeah but he is a top scorer in the regular season so he will eventually score in the playoffs.

But didn’t Willie just score a lot in the playoffs?
Yeah but he is soft.

- jribout


“Willie is so soft he only scores from the perimeter.”

Willie starts scoring goals from the “tough to play” areas.
“Willie only scores the easy tap ins from in close”

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:05 PM ET
We will never win with soft players like Willie.

Isn’t Marner soft?
Yeah but he scores a ton of points.

But hasn’t Marner struggled to score the last few playoffs?
Yeah but he is a top scorer in the regular season so he will eventually score in the playoffs.

But didn’t Willie just score a lot in the playoffs?
Yeah but he is soft.

- jribout

There’s a big difference between their styles. Marner is a known good defensive player, Willy avoids contact at all costs. I hope Ritchie plays with AM/MM, he could become our Wilson. Mitch seems to embrace scrums etc more than Willy. Mitch is just a smaller guy too.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:06 PM ET
“Willie is so soft he only scores from the perimeter.”

Willie starts scoring goals from the “tough to play” areas.
“Willie only scores the easy tap ins from in close”

- jribout

It took Willy 6 years to become that front net presence. He is good in close tho.
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Aug 2 @ 10:39 PM ET
Absolutely nothing worse than a soft Willie,
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:44 PM ET
Absolutely nothing worse than a soft Willie,
- Benny Blanco

I’d rather that than a hard Willy who’s always hard..
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 2 @ 10:49 PM ET
There’s a big difference between their styles. Marner is a known good defensive player, Willy avoids contact at all costs. I hope Ritchie plays with AM/MM, he could become our Wilson. Mitch seems to embrace scrums etc more than Willy. Mitch is just a smaller guy too.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Marner avoids contract so much, he throws the puck over the glass when nobody is even close to him.

If you hate a soft Willie, you should equally hate Microsoft Mitch or a limp Mitchkit or a Meatslinky Marner...your choice AA.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:12 PM ET
Marner avoids contract so much, he throws the puck over the glass when nobody is even close to him.

If you hate a soft Willie, you should equally hate Microsoft Mitch or a limp Mitchkit or a Meatslinky Marner...your choice AA.

- underhill14

I’m not Marners public image manager. He definitely seemed to crack under pressure this year in the playoffs. Maybe he could improve if he hired a sports psychologist? But you guys need to stop trying to compare everything Marner does to everything Willy does. They’re two different players, with different skill sets. Marner is on a different level, he brings more to the table overall. That’s why he gets paid more, but unless he lives up to his contract the criticism is warranted. Nylander is starting to live up to his contract. He put his big boy pants on this year and accepted that he has to go to the dirty areas to get the most out of his game. He’s still a wimp, and doesn’t stand up to anyone, but at least he’s willing to go to the front of the net now. That being said, I still don’t think the $7mil it costs to pay him is money well spent. The Leafs don’t need his offence, they could spend that on a PP QB Dman, a legit 3C, or a 1LW..
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 2 @ 11:26 PM ET
45.94???
45.94???

YES 45 f'n 94!!!
My man f'n did it
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:28 PM ET
45.94???
45.94???

YES 45 f'n 94!!!
My man f'n did it

- 21peter

It’s hurdles..

shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Aug 2 @ 11:29 PM ET
45.94???
45.94???

YES 45 f'n 94!!!
My man f'n did it

- 21peter

Don’t know who he is but I’m happy for ya.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Aug 2 @ 11:30 PM ET
45.94???
45.94???

YES 45 f'n 94!!!
My man f'n did it

- 21peter

That was nuts

He is also nuts😆

Gotta be tough to crush the WR by 0.53 seconds and get 🥈
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:34 PM ET
That was nuts

He is also nuts😆

- mr.sir

He’s clearly on PED’s.

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Aug 2 @ 11:37 PM ET
He’s clearly on PED’s.


- Arctic_AARDVARK

😆

It did cross my mind
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: CrkPlanet, BC
Joined: 04.11.2018

Aug 2 @ 11:39 PM ET
There’s a big difference between their styles. Marner is a known good defensive player, Willy avoids contact at all costs. I hope Ritchie plays with AM/MM, he could become our Wilson. Mitch seems to embrace scrums etc more than Willy. Mitch is just a smaller guy too.
- Arctic_AARDVARK



Nylander looks very lazy at times as does Marner, just not as much - So appearance wise Nylander looks a lot more aloof out there (no intensity). Their styles are absolutely different. Marner is a darter/slasher type player. Nylander is not. He relies on flow more.

Nylander floats more for sure.

They both avoid contact at all costs. Very soft.

Marner kills penalties well because he is really gifted at anticipating plays. Mixed with his offensive talent that makes him a threat. He is not a good defensive player though. He’s bad tracking through zones (on way back to defensive end) and looses his man/positioning and puck battles a lot in his own end. Good PK player but even strength not very good defensively.

Nylander is terrible defensively in any situation. Just bad and lazy without the puck.

I do not like either player but value for output - I’d say Nylander is a better ‘keep’.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 2 @ 11:46 PM ET
I’m not Marners public image manager. He definitely seemed to crack under pressure this year in the playoffs. Maybe he could improve if he hired a sports psychologist? But you guys need to stop trying to compare everything Marner does to everything Willy does. They’re two different players, with different skill sets. Marner is on a different level, he brings more to the table overall. That’s why he gets paid more, but unless he lives up to his contract the criticism is warranted. Nylander is starting to live up to his contract. He put his big boy pants on this year and accepted that he has to go to the dirty areas to get the most out of his game. He’s still a wimp, and doesn’t stand up to anyone, but at least he’s willing to go to the front of the net now. That being said, I still don’t think the $7mil it costs to pay him is money well spent. The Leafs don’t need his offence, they could spend that on a PP QB Dman, a legit 3C, or a 1LW..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Similar to your issues with Willie, I have mine with Marner. Well really, I have the same with all soft players. I wish Willie hit more, Marner hit more...all of them hit more.

The biggest difference for me is about $4M in cap between the two. For that I expect Marner to more consistent and better under pressure....kinda more like Patty Kane.

I watch other team's player's throwing hits and go "oh yeah, nice hit!", I watch our guys getting hit and go "oh no, hope they're not hurt". It's so annoying.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 2 @ 11:51 PM ET
We will never win with soft players like Willie.

Isn’t Marner soft?
Yeah but he scores a ton of points.

But hasn’t Marner struggled to score the last few playoffs?
Yeah but he is a top scorer in the regular season so he will eventually score in the playoffs.

But didn’t Willie just score a lot in the playoffs?
Yeah but he is soft.

- jribout




GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 2 @ 11:53 PM ET
45.94???
45.94???

YES 45 f'n 94!!!
My man f'n did it

- 21peter


Looked like it was gonna be close for a second there but he just pulled away on the last stretch.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:53 PM ET
Similar to your issues with Willie, I have mine with Marner. Well really, I have the same with all soft players. I wish Willie hit more, Marner hit more...all of them hit more.

The biggest difference for me is about $4M in cap between the two. For that I expect Marner to more consistent and better under pressure....kinda more like Patty Kane.

I watch other team's player's throwing hits and go "oh yeah, nice hit!", I watch our guys getting hit and go "oh no, hope they're not hurt". It's so annoying.

- underhill14

I don’t even care if they hit tbh, just don’t be afraid to get pissed off and show some emotion. But I agree, I’m always worried they’ll get hurt because they’re both inexperienced with contact. I had hopes that Mitch could be the next Kane, but I’m starting to think that massive contract stunted his growth. He doesn’t have to work for it.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 3 @ 12:02 AM ET
Looked like it was gonna be close for a second there but he just pulled away on the last stretch.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I was screaming NEI (NO) at that moment.

He has never lost to Benjamin, 3-0 now.

45.94 is just insane. Take away the hurdles and that's a 42 time...
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 3 @ 12:13 AM ET
I was screaming NEI (NO) at that moment.

He has never lost to Benjamin, 3-0 now.

45.94 is just insane. Take away the hurdles and that's a 42 time...

- 21peter

OMFG really? No way!
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