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bosman
Joined: 07.30.2010

Aug 3 @ 7:50 AM ET
So I will say this, it's pretty wild that you mention Giroux. He has one year left on his current deal and I was told 2 weeks ago, look for Philly to move him this season as they know he won't be re-signing come next season. Ottawa guy who has a house in Carp too, I am telling you the idea of Giroux in a Sens uniform has been floated by management!
- Kevin Francis


big cap hit but only 4 mil actual salary.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 3 @ 9:13 AM ET
If Brady isn't signed soon, every Sens fan will wonder what is going on. No way they can wait til opening night.
- Kevin Francis


the player also has some say in the contract negotiations, he would be wise to bet on himself, play out the year, be amazing and get a huge payday
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
the player also has some say in the contract negotiations, he would be wise to bet on himself, play out the year, be amazing and get a huge payday
- Njuice


my bad.. he needs a contract before the sason. aka before training camp hopefully
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 3 @ 10:17 AM ET
Hi Kevin,

On another Sens fanblog, there is a user who continually makes comments directing people to visit this site and read your work. One of the following must be true: (1) it's you; (2) it's another Hockeybuzz staff member; or (3) it's a superfan of yours who's off the reservation.

If (1), please stop. It's unbecoming and very irritating.

If (2), tell them to stop.

If (3), you should comment publicly about how you appreciate the support, but you don't approve of your readers spamming other sites.

The user's name on the other site is "kmac". His comments draw the ire of others, and people have started to make a point not to visit this site. I have made an exception myself so that I can register this complaint with you.

Cheers,
Bartleby

- Bartleby


Most adults would just ignore “kmac”

sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 3 @ 10:19 AM ET
What if the @Senators not extending Tkachuk continues to opening night. Brady takes warmups then stands at centre ice. Glass shatters, out comes Eichel and M. Tkachuk in #Sens jerseys. Brady rips his jersey in half to reveal the C and announces 8 year deal. Sens beat Leafs 12-0. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
- SENS-sational


you literally stole that, word for word, from twitter...come on man


Kyle Skinner
@JKyleSkinner
What if the @Senators not extending Tkachuk continues to opening night. Brady takes warmups then stands at centre ice. Glass shatters, out comes Eichel and M. Tkachuk in #Sens jerseys. Brady rips his jersey in half to reveal the C and announces 8 year deal. Sens beat Leafs 12-0.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Aug 3 @ 10:27 AM ET
The biggest problem they're going to have with trying to sign Tkachuk long-term is that his production has barely changed since his rookie year. If you pro-rate his 2020/21 season to 71GP to match the games he played in his first 2 years, the numbers go like this:

Year 1 - 71GP-22G-23A-45Pts
Year 2 - 71GP-21G-23A-44Pts
Year 3 - 71GP-22G-24A-46Pts

That's about as flat-lined as you can get, which means either the team is going to risk over-paying in a big way for a player who may never hit 30G/60Pts, or Tkachuk is going to want a bridge deal to prove that he's capable of a lot more than 25G/50Pts before signing long-term.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
The biggest problem they're going to have with trying to sign Tkachuk long-term is that his production has barely changed since his rookie year. If you pro-rate his 2020/21 season to 71GP to match the games he played in his first 2 years, the numbers go like this:

Year 1 - 71GP-22G-23A-45Pts
Year 2 - 71GP-21G-23A-44Pts
Year 3 - 71GP-22G-24A-46Pts

That's about as flat-lined as you can get, which means either the team is going to risk over-paying in a big way for a player who may never hit 30G/60Pts, or Tkachuk is going to want a bridge deal to prove that he's capable of a lot more than 25G/50Pts before signing long-term.

- khawk


If you were to apply ruthless financial logic, the Sens would likely make the right move if they were to deal Brady rather than sign him. I believe the Sens need to be lttle careful if they start talking north of $8m to sign him. But I am thinking he ends up getting $9m.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
If you were to apply ruthless financial logic, the Sens would likely make the right move if they were to deal Brady rather than sign him. I believe the Sens need to be lttle careful if they start talking north of $8m to sign him. But I am thinking he ends up getting $9m.
- spatso


I don't think he'll get 9. Production is the driving factor for forwards to get paid, and his production doesn't warrant 9 mil. I fully understand that there are a lot of intangibles to his game that make his salary higher, but 9 mil puts him into draisaitl, kucherov territory......and as much as i love brady, he doesn't deserve to make the same $$ as those guys.

8 x 8 would be fair, or maybe like 6 on a 3 year bridge deal.
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Aug 3 @ 12:15 PM ET
You should give drug test to your blogger!!! Okposso and a first to the wings?? Crackhead!!
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Aug 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
I don't think he'll get 9. Production is the driving factor for forwards to get paid, and his production doesn't warrant 9 mil. I fully understand that there are a lot of intangibles to his game that make his salary higher, but 9 mil puts him into draisaitl, kucherov territory......and as much as i love brady, he doesn't deserve to make the same $$ as those guys.

8 x 8 would be fair, or maybe like 6 on a 3 year bridge deal.

- sensarmy_11


Even 8 x 8 seems like a real stretch, even though I think he is capable of putting up better points than he has so far, and will.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:41 PM ET
Even 8 x 8 seems like a real stretch, even though I think he is capable of putting up better points than he has so far, and will.
- david22


i think 8 x 8 is fair based on potential to increase production as well as the intangibles that he brings.......9 just seems like a stretch to me
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:42 PM ET
You should give drug test to your blogger!!! Okposso and a first to the wings?? Crackhead!!
- Rsh


speaking of drug test......WTF are you talking about. it was sabres/leafs/wings fans who were discussing Okposo. all the blogger said was that okposo was poop, and that the wings needed a RW.
SENS-sational
Ottawa Senators
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.27.2011

Aug 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
you literally stole that, word for word, from twitter...come on man


Kyle Skinner
@JKyleSkinner
What if the @Senators not extending Tkachuk continues to opening night. Brady takes warmups then stands at centre ice. Glass shatters, out comes Eichel and M. Tkachuk in #Sens jerseys. Brady rips his jersey in half to reveal the C and announces 8 year deal. Sens beat Leafs 12-0.

- sensarmy_11






Yes this is from Twitter.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Aug 3 @ 12:54 PM ET
Even 8 x 8 seems like a real stretch, even though I think he is capable of putting up better points than he has so far, and will.
- david22

I agree, based on what we've actually seen from Brady so far, there's no way 8x8 is reasonable. Brady is very much like Landeskog, and I would be surprised if he were better paid than him before he's proven he was capable of even matching that level of production. Or consider his own brother Matthew as a comparable, and look at the difference in their first 3 seasons (pro-rated to 71GP/season, just like I did earlier with Brady)...

Year 1 - 71GP-12G-33A-45Pts
Year 2 - 71GP-25G-26A-51Pts
Year 3 - 71GP-30G-38A-68Pts

That's the production of a player who's worth a $7Mx3yr bridge deal, or something like an $8M-$9M/yr longer term extension. Beyond the 'intangibles', there's a clear progressive improvement year-over-year, including doubling the # goals between year 1 and 2, and scoring at nearly a PPG pace in year 3. Brady is quite simply nowhere close to that, and there's no point in pretending that he is just so they can sign him to a big contract.

My concern: Dorion/Smith are so 'big-body' crazy, that they may very well just go and overpay like crazy for Tkachuk, in order to make a 'bold' statement about the team's direction.
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Aug 3 @ 12:58 PM ET
Senarmy_11 you must be the drug dealer for the Site
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:05 PM ET
Senarmy_11 you must be the drug dealer for the Site
- Rsh



ummmm..........you showed me?

AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Aug 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
Why don't ottawa sign Zdeno Chara. Know it's a long shot but if he's paid $2m on a 1 year, it would be a great thing for many many reasons. Obviously more likely he wants another cup but I'd at least make an offer
ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.16.2008

Aug 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
If the contract for Tkachuk is influenced by anything, it will be sibling rivalry. There is no way in hell Brady will sign for anything less than what his brother is making now so he can become the top earner in the family until Matt's next contract is up. There's also the factors like internal leadership core salary structure. Should he earn more than Chabot on his 8x8 deal? Maybe, but how much more?

I personally believe this gets settled on a jersey number-based contract similar to what Crosby and others have done. A 7 year deal worth $7.7M AAV with a backloaded structure, which would be fair given the current market and relative salary structure of the team as our best-paid forward and 2nd highest salary overall. He also lords the extra $ over his sibling in hilarious fashion for the next year, which will be fun to see (cause he is that kind of a lovable Richard to those he's close with).

Give him the 7-7-7 structure and let the luck come rolling in...
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:28 PM ET
Why don't ottawa sign Zdeno Chara. Know it's a long shot but if he's paid $2m on a 1 year, it would be a great thing for many many reasons. Obviously more likely he wants another cup but I'd at least make an offer
- AlfieisKing


at this point in his career......he isn't better than Zaitsev, Zub, or whoever else we put out on the right side

that would be a P.R. signing, not one to make the team better
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
If the contract for Tkachuk is influenced by anything, it will be sibling rivalry. There is no way in hell Brady will sign for anything less than what his brother is making now so he can become the top earner in the family until Matt's next contract is up. There's also the factors like internal leadership core salary structure. Should he earn more than Chabot on his 8x8 deal? Maybe, but how much more?

I personally believe this gets settled on a jersey number-based contract similar to what Crosby and others have done. A 7 year deal worth $7.7M AAV with a backloaded structure, which would be fair given the current market and relative salary structure of the team as our best-paid forward and 2nd highest salary overall. He also lords the extra $ over his sibling in hilarious fashion for the next year, which will be fun to see (cause he is that kind of a lovable Richard to those he's close with).

Give him the 7-7-7 structure and let the luck come rolling in...

- ahjnkn


I love Brady, but Matthew is a more productive player in terms of points (which, like i said, is the biggest factor in the $$ you make).

If he signs a long term deal, it will almost surely be more than the 7 mil Matthew makes now......but Matthew signed a bridge deal. If Brady signs a bridge deal, i'd be shocked if it was more than his brother is getting.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Aug 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
at this point in his career......he isn't better than Zaitsev, Zub, or whoever else we put out on the right side

that would be a P.R. signing, not one to make the team better

- sensarmy_11


Honesly, I think the PR is pretty bad too.

You let him walk only for him to be amazing for years, and only bring him back when he's a shell of his former self.

I'd pass.
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
My predictions for a Brady contract:
3 years 22M for a $7.33M cap hit
Or
6 years $51M for a $8.5M cap hit
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
My predictions for a Brady contract:
3 years 22M for a $7.33M cap hit
Or
6 years $51M for a $8.5M cap hit

- SensFan25


i can't see the team giving him over 8 on anything but a max term deal.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Aug 3 @ 2:31 PM ET
Mathew had better linemates than brady is each of their 2nd years and yet brady matched mathew, mathew had established linemates in his 3rd year while brady had 2 rookies and his production was the same, i think when norris and batherson improve in the coming season brady will produce more, the fact that brady production has been stable despite the team being poop around him for first 2 years and full of rookies in his 3rd should make your first though of what could he do if he had the level of team that his brother had, we should see as the team gets better.
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Aug 3 @ 2:40 PM ET
To senarmy-11 just look 👀 at the blogs
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