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I think everyone thinks Nils could be traded in certain circumstances, we just don't think he has to be traded. I'm all for trading him for the right player. The position of strength argument is valid. - 2sticks1puck
Yea, like Jimbo said, Schneider is a year or 2 away anyway currently.
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A veteran of 366 NHL games, the 6-foot-3, 228-pound Nemeth is a big-bodied lefty who plays a simple, stabilizing game, is strong is in own end and will protect the front of the net. He can be a nasty one, blocks shots, has a good stick, can make the first pass and not coincidentally at all, should be a stabilizing influence on his projected third-pair partner and fellow Swede, Nils Lundkvist.
It will be important for the Rangers to make Lundkvist — who turns 21 on Wednesday — as comfortable as possible on and off the ice in his transition to the NHL and North America. That is something, quite frankly, on which the previous regime whiffed when Kaapo Kakko joined the club out of Finland two years ago.
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I don't necessarily agree with that.
Nemeth fits the same build as every other player we brought in: big, physical, hard to play against.
I think the fact that he is also Swedish and can help mentor Nils is an added bonus, but if Nils wasn't a Ranger, I could still see them bringing in Nemeth as that's just the type of player the Rangers have been trying to add all offseason. - rangerdanger94
Agreed. I think they bring in a player like Nemeth regardless of Nils, but I'm sure the decision to bring in Nemeth vs a different veteran LD was somewhat influenced by Nils coming over. To what extent that influence went into the decision, who knows, but I don't think they are completely unrelated nor do I think that they are 100% linked. |
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Agreed. I think they bring in a player like Nemeth regardless of Nils, but I'm sure the decision to bring in Nemeth vs a different veteran LD was somewhat influenced by Nils coming over. To what extent that influence went into the decision, who knows, but I don't think they are completely unrelated nor do I think that they are 100% linked. - SkjeiStadium
Ah, the grey area. Something us Ranger fans have never been able to grasp |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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We’re getting into a TonyD debate? Or just guna leave it alone so we don’t drag it on for 7 pages? The stats would support you couldn’t have TonyD and Fox come playoff time, the only argument would be TonyD plays a physical game more built for the playoffs vs Nils playing a soft finesse game more built for the regular season. I’m willing to leave it at that or we can drag it on for 5 more pages - nyrangers9479
Oh wow you are actually admitting you can’t have Tony on the team. No need for an argument lol. Wow can’t believe you admitted it haha |
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jimbro83
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Agreed. I think they bring in a player like Nemeth regardless of Nils, but I'm sure the decision to bring in Nemeth vs a different veteran LD was somewhat influenced by Nils coming over. To what extent that influence went into the decision, who knows, but I don't think they are completely unrelated nor do I think that they are 100% linked. - SkjeiStadium
One thing I don't really get why everyone seems to dismiss
the Rangers are EXTREMELY high on Nils Lundkvist
Drury used to go to Europe just to watch him play
they've been promoting signing him to his deal pretty heavily through social media
because one person here is obsessed with trading him doesn't make it even a thought in their heads
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A veteran of 366 NHL games, the 6-foot-3, 228-pound Nemeth is a big-bodied lefty who plays a simple, stabilizing game, is strong is in own end and will protect the front of the net. He can be a nasty one, blocks shots, has a good stick, can make the first pass and not coincidentally at all, should be a stabilizing influence on his projected third-pair partner and fellow Swede, Nils Lundkvist.
It will be important for the Rangers to make Lundkvist — who turns 21 on Wednesday — as comfortable as possible on and off the ice in his transition to the NHL and North America. That is something, quite frankly, on which the previous regime whiffed when Kaapo Kakko joined the club out of Finland two years ago. - jimbro83
No doubt adding Nemeth kills 2 birds with 1 stone.
And why wouldn't the Rangers operate under the assumption that Nils is going to make the team, and we need to make him as comfortable as possible to help his development, and bring in a guy like Nemeth to help do it...but that doesn't mean that the Rangers won't trade Nils if the right opportunity comes up.
I just don't think that Nemeth signing for 3 years 100% means that Nils will not be traded under any circumstance whatsoever for the next 3 years. I also don't think the Rangers are actively shopping Nils at all or have any intention to, just saying that it's possible. |
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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this 50% cap retention for Eichel is something completely made up in Larry Brooks head and has no merit
there isnt a chance in hell Buffalo is willing to give Jack Eichel 5 million a year the next 5 years to play for another team, it's already so bitter as it is
I think Buffalo's deadline organization wise to trade isn't until next July 1st when Eichel has a 7.5 million signing bonus and that same day it turns into a total NMC
they could very well just hang on to him the whole time unless they get what they consider the perfect deal
oh yeah, and hi
- jimbro83
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A veteran of 366 NHL games, the 6-foot-3, 228-pound Nemeth is a big-bodied lefty who plays a simple, stabilizing game, is strong is in own end and will protect the front of the net. He can be a nasty one, blocks shots, has a good stick, can make the first pass and not coincidentally at all, should be a stabilizing influence on his projected third-pair partner and fellow Swede, Nils Lundkvist.
It will be important for the Rangers to make Lundkvist — who turns 21 on Wednesday — as comfortable as possible on and off the ice in his transition to the NHL and North America. That is something, quite frankly, on which the previous regime whiffed when Kaapo Kakko joined the club out of Finland two years ago. - jimbro83
I think Nils and Kravs will have better rookie campaigns than Kakko and Laf just due to the fact their will be a full preseason and camps. You just wonder how much of a jump Kakko and Laf will make this season due to that alone?
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No doubt adding Nemeth kills 2 birds with 1 stone.
And why wouldn't the Rangers operate under the assumption that Nils is going to make the team, and we need to make him as comfortable as possible to help his development, and bring in a guy like Nemeth to help do it...but that doesn't mean that the Rangers won't trade Nils if the right opportunity comes up.
I just don't think that Nemeth signing for 3 years 100% means that Nils will not be traded under any circumstance whatsoever for the next 3 years. I also don't think the Rangers are actively shopping Nils at all or have any intention to, just saying that it's possible. - rangerdanger94
do you think the Rangers are constantly looking at the defense corps Stanley cup champions the last 20 year and checking out which guys were 6 ft, which guys were 5-11 and are totally panicking right now
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do you think the Rangers are constantly looking at the defense corps Stanley cup champions the last 20 year and checking out which guys were 6 ft, which guys were 5-11 and are totally panicking right now - jimbro83
No chance in hell
Although the stat is pretty interesting, and I'm sure there is something to it. But any trend can be broken if the talent outshines the height. |
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I think Nils and Kravs will have better rookie campaigns than Kakko and Laf just due to the fact their will be a full preseason and camps. You just wonder how much of a jump Kakko and Laf will make this season due to that alone? - 2sticks1puck
My view exactly. I expect much more from Kakko and Laf having the benefit of camp and pre-season games. |
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No chance in hell
Although the stat is pretty interesting, and I'm sure there is something to it. But any trend can be broken if the talent outshines the height. - rangerdanger94
Gerbe was playoff gold! |
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My view exactly. I expect much more from Kakko and Laf having the benefit of camp and pre-season games. - Fenrir
Kakko said in a recent Finnish interview that he was afraid to play his natural offensive game because of Quinn. Quinn basically made all the young kids into little robots that were too afraid to make a mistake. |
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For those of you who have been around Shattenkirk, you know there's no way in hades he's 6 feet or 200 lbs like his profile says.
Is the argument defensemen under 6 feet are bad or having more than one is bad? I'm not backreading the blog just to find out, so if someone could catch me up, I'll buy a pint for ya next time I'm at MSG or anyone is at CapOne. |
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jimbro83
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No chance in hell
Although the stat is pretty interesting, and I'm sure there is something to it. But any trend can be broken if the talent outshines the height. - rangerdanger94
the Rangers are concerned about the height of Fox and Lundkvist
that's why they added loads and loads of size this off season to let these guys do their thing
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if the Rangers do acquire Reilly Smith it would be great if he took #42 so my Brendan Smith jersey doesn't go to waste |
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if the Rangers do acquire Reilly Smith it would be great if he took #42 so my Brendan Smith jersey doesn't go to waste - jimbro83
I am assuming Barclay is taking Buchs 89 right? |
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No chance in hell
Although the stat is pretty interesting, and I'm sure there is something to it. But any trend can be broken if the talent outshines the height. - rangerdanger94
But how do you prove it. If the rangers don’t win the cup next year there is no way you can prove it’s cause they have 2 defensemen under 6 feet. It just seems like a really dumb argument in the end. |
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But how do you prove it. If the rangers don’t win the cup next year there is no way you can prove it’s cause they have 2 defensemen under 6 feet. It just seems like a really dumb argument in the end. - TPC
Correlation is not causation. Analysis 101. |
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Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking? Joined: 01.29.2008
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It's all good man, I don't post as much since HB is blocked at work and some of the BS arguments here are childish lol - MeltingPlastic
yeah ive been afk for a while -- did you delete FB?
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MeltingPlastic
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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yeah ive been afk for a while -- did you delete FB? - evitageN
No, I got hacked so you're likely friends with some random Iranian girl who took it over. From what I've been told they can use FB. It can't create there own accounts so thanks to all the Yahoo email hacks, I lost mine original one back in like 2018. FB was no help whatsoever in getting the account back |
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Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking? Joined: 01.29.2008
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No, I got hacked so you're likely friends with some random Iranian girl who took it over. From what I've been told they can use FB. It can't create there own accounts so thanks to all the Yahoo email hacks, I lost mine original one back in like 2018. FB was no help whatsoever in getting the account back - MeltingPlastic
haha wow -- that's nuts |
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No doubt adding Nemeth kills 2 birds with 1 stone.
And why wouldn't the Rangers operate under the assumption that Nils is going to make the team, and we need to make him as comfortable as possible to help his development, and bring in a guy like Nemeth to help do it...but that doesn't mean that the Rangers won't trade Nils if the right opportunity comes up.
I just don't think that Nemeth signing for 3 years 100% means that Nils will not be traded under any circumstance whatsoever for the next 3 years. I also don't think the Rangers are actively shopping Nils at all or have any intention to, just saying that it's possible. - rangerdanger94
I definitely don't think that Nils is untouchable for these 3 years, but like Jim said, they are really high on him so I really don't see any situation where he's traded prior to this season. If they go another year or so and Schneider is looking ready and Nils looks to be redundant in the lineup then I think we can see him moved. I also think Nemeth could be moved during his contract, but having him here for year 1 of Nils should be helpful and I doubt he was looking for a 1 year deal |
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Another thing with the Rangers, which we might not want to think about, is that there is a real possibility that some of these young guys like Laf, Kakko, Krav, Miller, Nils, Schneider, etc. don't live up to our lofty expectations. We saw how Skjei regressed after looking really good early on. Throwing it way back, Petr Prucha was similar. I don't worry about Fox but some of the other guys, while they look good/great so far, could struggle to progress past where they are now so we don't want to empty to cupboard because we're slotting guys in as definites in roles that they've never played in before. |
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