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rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 2 @ 12:28 AM ET
Apparently the Hawks have agreed NOT to trade him mid-season or at the deadline

Which sucks, because if Fleury plays great, Hawks will be in playoff contention and won't want to trade him anyways, OR, if he plays terrible and the Hawks are outside the playoff picture then we probably wouldn't want to trade for him, or sign him in FA next offseason

Same goes with Jarry, if we have a glaring need at goal, that likely means Jarry is playing mediocre/poorly and wouldn't have any trade value without a sweetener as a cap dump

Best hope was a Jarry/??? for Fleury with *some* retention by the Hawks right now when Fleury was being noncommittal

- TheGame316

Why would Chicago retain anything without a sweetener from Pitt. If Fluery doesn't play Chicago saves $7M. Chicago's other two goalies are as good as anything Pitt has signed and cheaper.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 2 @ 6:58 AM ET
Why would Chicago retain anything without a sweetener from Pitt. If Fluery doesn't play Chicago saves $7M. Chicago's other two goalies are as good as anything Pitt has signed and cheaper.
- rpeters01

In his defense he did put Jarry/???. Which would insinuate the sweetener. However, I'm not seeing a Fleury deal go down.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 2 @ 8:32 AM ET
If only CBJ's GM wasn't stupid enough to take Voracek off the Flyers' hands. He is the antithesis of what Flyers fans like in their players - a lazy, washed up coward (a coward for beating up Scuderi years back). I wanted so much for them to eat that contract (just like I wanted them to eat the Bryz contract). Why is it that the Flyers are always able to weasel out of their contracts?
- PghPens668771


43 points in 53 games is washed up now? Damn.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Aug 2 @ 8:49 AM ET
Question: if Kane is being investigated by the league and they do find out he was, think they'd be interested in Zucker for a pick or something?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 2 @ 9:06 AM ET
Question: if Kane is being investigated by the league and they do find out he was, think they'd be interested in Zucker for a pick or something?
- nateca444


Lets say the Sharks are interested and the Pens do that...what are the Pens, who are already a bit weak at wing, going to do next/with the space?


Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 2 @ 9:16 AM ET
Lets say the Sharks are interested and the Pens do that...what are the Pens, who are already a bit weak at wing, going to do next/with the space?
- MattStrat


The only name I can think of at this point is Tatar.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 2 @ 9:21 AM ET
Question: if Kane is being investigated by the league and they do find out he was, think they'd be interested in Zucker for a pick or something?
- nateca444

With Thornton and Pavelski gone and Marleau unequivocally over the hill, I think the Sharks are finally going to turn the page. They shouldn’t be interested in a guy like Zucker, and we shouldn’t be interested in Kane either. He’s beyond just a kid cutting up and having fun with his money. He’s now in his late 20s and still in and out of legal issues.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 2 @ 9:23 AM ET
43 points in 53 games is washed up now? Damn.
- j.boyd919


Yeah...9 more points than Atkinson with 1 less PPP than him last season in 3 less games. Also better at 5 on 5 by pretty much every metric. His cap hit is too high but I dont think man for man this swap made the Flyers much better IMO.

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 2 @ 9:23 AM ET
The only name I can think of at this point is Tatar.
- Rinosaur


Me too.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
Me too.
- MattStrat


There are other names available like Gusev, Palmieri and Parise. So unless Hextall just wants to swap Zucker out for one of those guys to make space then whatever I guess lol. I think the ship has sailed in terms of UFA's who would be a major upgrade at this point.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 2 @ 9:43 AM ET
There are other names available like Gusev, Palmieri and Parise. So unless Hextall just wants to swap Zucker out for one of those guys to make space then whatever I guess lol. I think the ship has sailed in terms of UFA's who would be a major upgrade at this point.
- Rinosaur


Yeah and that was the point of my reply to him.

Everyone thought Parise was a lock to the Isles...weird that hasn't happened yet...him and Sid are good buddies, wonder if the Pens are saying things to him too...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
Yeah and that was the point of my reply to him.

Everyone thought Parise was a lock to the Isles...weird that hasn't happened yet...him and Sid are good buddies, wonder if the Pens are saying things to him too...

- MattStrat


At this point unless he signs for like $1M I think the Pens should shift their focus to one of these bargain centers to fill in at 4C like Anisimiov, Soderberg, Bozak, etc... At least I'd assume they'd be bargains, but I think getting one of them around $1Mish for one year should be the main focus. Losing McCann and Gaudreau really hurt the center depth and the wrong time.
pier6687
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.28.2019

Aug 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
There are other names available like Gusev, Palmieri and Parise. So unless Hextall just wants to swap Zucker out for one of those guys to make space then whatever I guess lol. I think the ship has sailed in terms of UFA's who would be a major upgrade at this point.
- Rinosaur



Trade for Laine... slim chance I know, but would love to see him on the left side of Pens power play
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:11 AM ET
https://www.penguinpoop.c...s-for-gibson-source-says/
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:18 AM ET
https://www.penguinpoop.com/2021/penguins-in-serious-talks-for-gibson-source-says/
- j.boyd919

Haha me and Feds were making fun of how legit that site is. Someone posted that the other day. But thanks for sharing. I would like to bring Gibson here. Let's send Jarry, Zuck and Petts for Gibson and Rackell and then sign Tatar haha.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 2 @ 11:26 AM ET
https://www.penguinpoop.com/2021/penguins-in-serious-talks-for-gibson-source-says/
- j.boyd919

I saw that pop up on my Twitter feed yesterday, assumed a website called “penguin poop” would be full of poop, and ignored it.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:26 AM ET
So if the above trade happened.. (not even sure if it works cap wise)
Guentz-Sid-Rust
Tatar-Geno-Kap
McGinn-Carter-Rackell
ZAR-Blue-Rod
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:30 AM ET
I saw that pop up on my Twitter feed yesterday, assumed a website called “penguin poop” would be full of poop, and ignored it.
- Victoro311

Lol
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
There are other names available like Gusev, Palmieri and Parise. So unless Hextall just wants to swap Zucker out for one of those guys to make space then whatever I guess lol. I think the ship has sailed in terms of UFA's who would be a major upgrade at this point.
- Rinosaur

Parise might be a good signing. Can he still play top 6. Can he still skate well?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
Parise might be a good signing. Can he still play top 6. Can he still skate well?
- Barnaby36

Last season his stats show me he was not a top 6. But the 2 years before, yes. Was he injured last year?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 2 @ 11:44 AM ET
Parise might be a good signing. Can he still play top 6. Can he still skate well?
- Barnaby36

Still a very solid middle 6 but it doesn’t matter because he’s going to the Islanders.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 2 @ 11:47 AM ET
https://www.penguinpoop.com/2021/penguins-in-serious-talks-for-gibson-source-says/
- j.boyd919


LOL did they just make that site today?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
LOL did they just make that site today?
- Rinosaur

You missed it too? Someone posted it the other day haha. But yes it looks like the site was made the day it was written lol
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Aug 2 @ 12:06 PM ET
There are other names available like Gusev, Palmieri and Parise. So unless Hextall just wants to swap Zucker out for one of those guys to make space then whatever I guess lol. I think the ship has sailed in terms of UFA's who would be a major upgrade at this point.
- Rinosaur


I’d be betting on Parise, Palmieri and Cizikas all already have deals in place with the isles. Rumours starting to leak now cizikas might have accepted 6 years 2.5 mill.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
I’d be betting on Parise, Palmieri and Cizikas all already have deals in place with the isles. Rumours starting to leak now cizikas might have accepted 6 years 2.5 mill.
- pens4life-66

As does Zajac. Lou is working on the RFAs.
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