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HockeyBuzz
Location: Brampton
Joined: 08.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 11:48 AM ET
Voracek heading to Columbus for Atkinson not yet done
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 24 @ 11:51 AM ET
Big if true
Tom Dusome
Season Ticket Holder
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:52 AM ET
Love this move. Atkinson will be a good addition for the Flyers. A fan favourite for both teams going either way. New Look Flyers are seeming strong.
tkbuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.09.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:55 AM ET
Voracek heading to Columbus for Atkinson

not yet done

- HockeyBuzz


yet we still don't know the FLA/BUF deal yet? wtf, seriously.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
Love this deal. And happy for Jake to return to where it all started for him.
Atkinson is a battler...solid move by Fletch.
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jul 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
Same age or almost. The better player is definitely Voracek, still putting up points, 6’2 skilled winger.

Atkinson is 5’8, speedy winger but I totally don’t see him as an upgrade beside the cap hit.

CLB are prolly going to flip Voracek with money retained for assets.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 24 @ 12:04 PM ET
Same age or almost. The better player is definitely Voracek, still putting up points, 6’2 skilled winger.

Atkinson is 5’8, speedy winger but I totally don’t see him as an upgrade beside the cap hit.

CLB are prolly going to flip Voracek with money retained for assets.

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


Jake is good but the mix was off. didn’t work for 10 years. That’s the upgrade.
flyer4ever75
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jul 24 @ 12:05 PM ET
Same age or almost. The better player is definitely Voracek, still putting up points, 6’2 skilled winger.

Atkinson is 5’8, speedy winger but I totally don’t see him as an upgrade beside the cap hit.

CLB are prolly going to flip Voracek with money retained for assets.

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


If this is a one for one trade Philly wins this hands down. They get the player that competes every night and a lower cap hit.
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jul 24 @ 12:06 PM ET
The poor leadership in the flyer room needed to change and voracek was one of the leaders.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:07 PM ET
Eklund you are friedman?
HonestHolmgren
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hockey Central
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
How come you never had this one?
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jul 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
If this is a one for one trade Philly wins this hands down. They get the player that competes every night and a lower cap hit.
- flyer4ever75


I don’t know. Have to see what will come back for Voracek when he’s traded with money retained.

But I don’t see this as an upgrade. Voracek is the better player between both (without the cap issue)
flyer4ever75
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jul 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
I don’t know. Have to see what will come back for Voracek when he’s traded with money retained.

But I don’t see this as an upgrade. Voracek is the better player between both (without the cap issue)

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


Being better isn't just about getting more points.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Jul 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
Another move by your home team that your home sources missed?
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Jul 24 @ 12:15 PM ET
Being better isn't just about getting more points.
- flyer4ever75



Bad trade for philly. I agree in a shake up but an already undersized team is now completely undersized upfront.

Atkinson
G
TK
Farabee
Frost
NAK

6 extremely small non physical forwards is about 3 too many. Big time problem.
jkumpire
Location:
Joined: 03.16.2009

Jul 24 @ 12:15 PM ET
This is an insane and inane deal by JK and the CBJ. They traded their #2 offensive player and one of the best players the franchise has ever had for a guy they got rid of years ago. To top it off they trade him in the division, so he will run all over the CBJ 4 times a year.

Whether they flip/trade Voracek for more assets is immaterial. This is a stupid trade and the GM and even recently rehired JD should be fired for it.
flyer4ever75
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jul 24 @ 12:17 PM ET
Bad trade for philly. I agree in a shake up but an already undersized team is now completely undersized upfront.

Atkinson
G
TK
Farabee
Frost
NAK

6 extremely small non physical forwards is about 3 too many. Big time problem.

- Fopa21


Jake is bigger but he isn't physical. They also saved $2.4M on the cap. They can use elsewhere.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Jul 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
Jake is bigger but he isn't physical. They also saved $2.4M on the cap. They can use elsewhere.
- flyer4ever75



Bigger/heavier is a big positive. Yes, Jake isn’t a “physical player” but still more so than Atkinson. Easy to play against before even easier less heavy now
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 24 @ 12:25 PM ET
Bad trade for philly. I agree in a shake up but an already undersized team is now completely undersized upfront.

Atkinson
G
TK
Farabee
Frost
NAK

6 extremely small non physical forwards is about 3 too many. Big time problem.

- Fopa21


Disagree. It’s a great trade for Philly. While Atkinson is small, the trade was made to gain cap space and additional speed in the lineup. Seeing what Chuck has accomplished in the past several days, I have no doubt he will sign an UFA or two with size and grit (Kurtis Gabriel comes to mind).
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Jul 24 @ 12:27 PM ET
Disagree. It’s a great trade for Philly. While Atkinson is small, the trade was made to gain cap space and additional speed in the lineup. Seeing what Chuck has accomplished in the past several days, I have no doubt he will sign an UFA or two with size and grit (Kurtis Gabriel comes to mind).
- BroadSTmayhem


A Gabriel who will most likely be a 12/13 forward who when plays will average 6 minutes TOI a game isn’t of any relevance at all. They need a gritty top 9 forward ie: Goodrow or Coleman
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 24 @ 12:29 PM ET
I like this deal more for the cap ramifications. Jake, when used to his best, is a puck carrying bear. He has some very good half wall skills, a wicked wrist shot and excellent passing skills. He has two gears, engaged or not. When he was first brought over Lavy got him to engage on the 3rd line with Cooter. He has since become and offensive force at the expense of his defensive game.

Adding Adkinson gives the Flyers more first step speed and two way play in the top six. He has been an effective penalty killer and threat on the PK. No, he isn't as big as Jake, but he plays a gnatlike game that makes him seem larger.

This will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 24 @ 12:32 PM ET
A Gabriel who will most likely be a 12/13 forward who when plays will average 6 minutes TOI a game isn’t of any relevance at all. They need a gritty top 9 forward ie: Goodrow or Coleman
- Fopa21


I said a UFA or two. Yes, Goodrow or Coleman-type players are essential. But you also need a deterrent in the lineup when things get ugly. If not Gabriel, I’d like to see the Flyers try and sign Ross Johnston. Flyers have needed someone in the lineup to deter division meatheads like Wilson, etc.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Jul 24 @ 12:36 PM ET
I said a UFA or two. Yes, Goodrow or Coleman-type players are essential. But you also need a deterrent in the lineup when things get ugly. If not Gabriel, I’d like to see the Flyers try and sign Ross Johnston. Flyers have needed someone in the lineup to deter division meatheads like Wilson, etc.
- BroadSTmayhem


NYI was a playoff team & Johnston only dressed in 12 games. They clearly didn’t think his services were needed. Gabriel only played 11 for one of the worst teams in the NHL. Those guys are strictly enforcers with zero ability to play and contribute at level needed. The Coleman’s & Goodrows have the skill needed to be effective skill/grit guys

Flyers definitely need to be tougher to play against though I agree. Just not necessarily in the drop the gloves sense
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 24 @ 12:42 PM ET
NYI was a playoff team & Johnston only dressed in 12 games. They clearly didn’t think his services were needed. Gabriel only played 11 for one of the worst teams in the NHL. Those guys are strictly enforcers with zero ability to play and contribute at level needed. The Coleman’s & Goodrows have the skill needed to be effective skill/grit guys
- Fopa21


We got pushed around and out-muscled in nearly every game last year. If I’m the GM, I’m looking to add a take-no-crap bruiser or two. Fletch mentioned on more than one occasion this off season that the Flyers need to change their identity. Being a soft team with a bright spot or two sprinkled in the lineup ain’t cuttin’ it. Flyers need a dose of nasty in the lineup.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Jul 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
We got pushed around and out-muscled in nearly every game last year. If I’m the GM, I’m looking to add a take-no-crap bruiser or two. Fletch mentioned on more than one occasion this off season that the Flyers need to change their identity. Being a soft team with a bright spot or two sprinkled in the lineup ain’t cuttin’ it. Flyers need a dose of nasty in the lineup.
- BroadSTmayhem


Risto has nasty in him. But yes, they need to be tougher but a guy who plays 5 minutes a night doesn’t do enough to move the needle.

Out muscled. So trade a heavy big body Jake for a smaller Atkinson. Doesn’t make sense. I agree need to be tougher to play against & I’m all for moving Jake but not to get another small player
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