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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 20 @ 9:03 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: TIFH (Barber, Lindros), Les Bowen, RIP Dave Unkle and More
huks99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 10.05.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:25 AM ET
Always great stuff…thanks Bill.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:40 AM ET
I still remember the Lindros fiasco….the Rangers were the lucky that deal didn’t go through.

The Flyer deal was an awful lot to give up as well. I remember when the Flyers drafted Forsberg and Bob Mackenzie said he thought he was more of a late first round-2nd round guy. He suggested that Marcus Naslund was the best Sweed. Just goes to show that sometimes reaches work. Central scouting had Forsberg similarly rated. One of the better Flyer drafts, although the ones Bill alluded to we’re pretty special as well. Wow.
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jun 20 @ 9:56 AM ET
I enjoyed hearing Les Bowen cover the Flyers.

Met him once. Seemed like a soft-spoken kinda guy. Think he was flying out to cover an Eagles game. I was thinking, how does a nice quiet person end up covering a sport like football in a city like this?

bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:44 AM ET
The Sittler pick being a complete bust hurt the flyers pretty good. Then taking Bowen at 15 wasn’t much help.
To be fair there are a few guys drafted ahead of Sittler that I never heard of.
Woulda coulda shoulda.
I wonder what the flyers would have done if they had not gotten Limdros.
Lindros was a dominate player and awesome to watch. So was Forsberg.
At least we have Nopa to watch.
CarlBradley
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ocean City, NJ
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 11:57 AM ET
Bill,
Regarding great draft classes- you have to include 1983, where with NO First Rd picks, they managed to draft Peter Zexel, Derrick Smith, Rick Tocchet, AND Pelle Eklund!

THAT was a haul.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
Happy father's day Bill and to all of us dads on here.

Congratulations to Les. I know him more for covering the Eagles but he seemed like a good guy.

Feels like the Philadelphia sports media is losing a lot of people. Be it retirement or going elsewhere.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 20 @ 12:17 PM ET
Those mid 90's teams with Lindros and Brind'Amour down the middle, big heavy scoring wingers in LeClair and Renberg as well as a good defensive core were fun to watch. Surprised they didn't win a Stanley Cup, just needed better goaltending
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 20 @ 1:39 PM ET
Glad Ek mentioned the Pulock play last night flat out one of the best defensive plays I have ever seen. What a move by McDonagh to set up what would have been an amazing last second game tying goal, but Pulock took it away. Wow!
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
Glad Ek mentioned the Pulock play last night flat out one of the best defensive plays I have ever seen. What a move by McDonagh to set up what would have been an amazing last second game tying goal, but Pulock took it away. Wow!
- jd250


As much as I was rooting for Tampa tonite the game I have to say that showed great awareness on Pulock’s part.
That kind of play can springboard a team to take a series.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jun 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
I doubt the Flyers doing anything big until after the expansion draft. Read something on Dumba from Wild wanting to deal him before the draft. Doesn’t make best sense for Flyers. Than they have to lose Myers/Sand to the expansion draft. To me, I see the Flyers in a holding pattern until after the expansion draft. I think they will be very busy from then until the entry draft. I hope they have a lot of fires going on and kick a lot of tires. Not sure what will shake out but a D-pair for Provy is a must.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 4:31 PM ET
I doubt the Flyers doing anything big until after the expansion draft. Read something on Dumba from Wild wanting to deal him before the draft. Doesn’t make best sense for Flyers. Than they have to lose Myers/Sand to the expansion draft. To me, I see the Flyers in a holding pattern until after the expansion draft. I think they will be very busy from then until the entry draft. I hope they have a lot of fires going on and kick a lot of tires. Not sure what will shake out but a D-pair for Provy is a must.
- peesinwind


Unless one of Myers or Sanheim is included in the deal for Dumba.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jun 20 @ 4:33 PM ET
Unless one of Myers or Sanheim is included in the deal for Dumba.
- MJL


That would be as doubling down on dumb ass move
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jun 20 @ 4:37 PM ET
Unless one of Myers or Sanheim is included in the deal for Dumba.
- MJL

That makes no sense. Then the Wild lose Sanheim or Myers in the ED instead of Dumba. The Wild want forwards in the trade especially centers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 5:17 PM ET
That makes no sense. Then the Wild lose Sanheim or Myers in the ED instead of Dumba. The Wild want forwards in the trade especially centers.
- Djapana


I was only commenting on it from the Flyers side.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 20 @ 6:00 PM ET
OEL may be on the market. Is the GM interested? Stay tuned.

https://twitter.com/marks...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 20 @ 6:04 PM ET
OEL may be on the market. Is the GM interested? Stay tuned.

https://twitter.com/marks...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

- hello it's me 2050




Last season he only gave permission for two teams. Bruins or Nucks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 6:07 PM ET
Last season he only gave permission for two teams. Bruins or Nucks.
- MBFlyerfan



LH shot. Big contract. Pass.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 20 @ 6:16 PM ET
LH shot. Big contract. Pass.
- MJL



Yep, 8.25 for 6 more years at age 29.
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jun 20 @ 6:57 PM ET
Yep, 8.25 for 6 more years at age 29.
- MBFlyerfan



Similar age as Couturier.
Similar cap hit Couturier may look for next summer.
Similar length Couturier may look for.

If Couturier has a good season, he is gonna want that money. UFA is his best chance at a major contract. Shows the challenge the Flyers find themselves in. Not just this summer, but next as well.
BadCowboyDan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.16.2017

Jun 20 @ 7:18 PM ET
Did you not mention that every team involved went on to win the Stanley Cup... except the Flyers. So I guess everyone won on that trade but us...?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 20 @ 7:24 PM ET
I don’t think the Flyers should “rebuild”. I think it’s time for a new era. The Flyers were able to go from Richards to Giroux without a rebuild.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 20 @ 7:31 PM ET
not sure a "rebuild" with Giroux as the example is a good indicator of what we need to do lol. I like G but we havent won anything with him
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 20 @ 7:36 PM ET
will the sixers choke like the flyers?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 7:41 PM ET
Similar age as Couturier.
Similar cap hit Couturier may look for next summer.
Similar length Couturier may look for.

If Couturier has a good season, he is gonna want that money. UFA is his best chance at a major contract. Shows the challenge the Flyers find themselves in. Not just this summer, but next as well.

- Captain_Ahab


A team obviously can only have so many high cap hit players. The Flyers big need on defense is for a RH top pairing defenseman. I'll gladly pay that for Couturier.
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