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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits:
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
The last thing this team needs is another guy playing a passive brand of hockey, Rubstov can kick rocks.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
Happy birthday to Mr. Rinaldo. Love Sandy McCarthy.

Bill what is Rubtsov contract status after this upcoming season? Still RFA or UFA
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 15 @ 10:21 AM ET
BIll, this is a question from the last blog.

What will the status of Foerster and Wisdom be for the upcoming season? Will they be forced to go back to Juniors?

Has there been any discussion of waiving the under 20 rules for CHL players who played last season in the AHL?

It seems to me that forcing them to return to juniors after showing they can succeed at the AHL level is unfair.

Do Foerster and Wisdom have any recourse such as signing with a team that is in a league that doesn't have the under 20 agreement with the AHL?

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 15 @ 10:26 AM ET
Happy birthday to Mr. Rinaldo. Love Sandy McCarthy.

Bill what is Rubtsov contract status after this upcoming season? Still RFA or UFA

- hello it's me 2050


He'd be an RFA again after next season. Will still only be 23 years old and have four pro years, so he wouldn't qualify for Group 6 UFA status.

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 15 @ 10:28 AM ET
BIll, this is a question from the last blog.

What will the status of Foerster and Wisdom be for the upcoming season? Will they be forced to go back to Juniors?

Has there been any discussion of waiving the under 20 rules for CHL players who played last season in the AHL?

It seems to me that forcing them to return to juniors after showing they can succeed at the AHL level is unfair.

Do Foerster and Wisdom have any recourse such as signing with a team that is in a league that doesn't have the under 20 agreement with the AHL?

- MBFlyerfan


As of now, there doesn't seem to be a plan to alter the CHL/AHL age rules to allow for exceptions. So Foerster and Wisdom presently would either have to play in the NHL or go back to the Ontario League for next season.


xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
Funny how people say Hextall was bad at drafting. He has had quite a few successful picks including:

Travis Konecny
Ivan Provorov
Morgan Frost
Joel Farabee
NAK
Travis Sanheim
Carter Hart
Oskar Lindblom

Not to mention a few names were are excited to see make the NHL

Wade Allison
Issac Ratcliffe
Felix Sandstrom
Noah Cates

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
Funny how people say Hextall was bad at drafting. He has had quite a few successful picks including:

Travis Konecny
Ivan Provorov
Morgan Frost
Joel Farabee
NAK
Travis Sanheim
Carter Hart
Oskar Lindblom

Not to mention a few names were are excited to see make the NHL

Wade Allison
Issac Ratcliffe
Felix Sandstrom
Noah Cates

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

He wasn't bad. I think many just think he was very good while overrating his picks. Still way to many question marks.

Is success becoming an NHL regular? Are there diff levels of success?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
Funny how people say Hextall was bad at drafting. He has had quite a few successful picks including:

Travis Konecny
Ivan Provorov
Morgan Frost
Joel Farabee
NAK
Travis Sanheim
Carter Hart
Oskar Lindblom

Not to mention a few names were are excited to see make the NHL

Wade Allison
Issac Ratcliffe
Felix Sandstrom
Noah Cates

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

NAK lol, no. He’s had some good picks, specifically the sanheim and TK selections, for mid to late firsts those were great. The top 10 of Provys draft was can’t miss outside of Zacha and to some extent strome. Carter Hart too. Book still out on all those other guys, the NP one hurts, not all on him but geez , what a blunder.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
He wasn't bad. I think many just think he was very good while overrating his picks. Still way to many question marks.

Is success becoming an NHL regular? Are there diff levels of success?

- hello it's me 2050



Considering the majority of picks never even play in the NHL, you would have to say yes.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 15 @ 11:12 AM ET
I just read the scouting reports on German Rubtsov, says the kid had tremendous skill and his skating was above average but he was kind of a mystery. Unfortunate none of that's translated into the NHL or pro hockey in general.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 15 @ 11:13 AM ET
Considering the majority of picks never even play in the NHL, you would have to say yes.
- MBFlyerfan

I agree. Then you drill it down. Like Patrick for example. Lets say he is nothing more than a 4th line player. He has an NHL career though as 2nd overall is it a failure?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:13 AM ET
Funny how people say Hextall was bad at drafting.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


People are stupid.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:14 AM ET
People are stupid.
- Tomahawk

Flagged!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:14 AM ET
Considering the majority of picks never even play in the NHL, you would have to say yes.
- MBFlyerfan


Not necessarily, though, right? One may define success as more than just beating the average, which is what you used as the benchmark.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
Hexy kinda whiffed on the organizations first two picks in 2016, but he looks to have made up for it with the next four straight.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
I just read the scouting reports on German Rubtsov, says the kid had tremendous skill and his skating was above average but he was kind of a mystery. Unfortunate none of that's translated into the NHL or pro hockey in general.
- DraftandDestroy

I remember watching him in the Mem cup as a draft +2 I want to say, positionally sound but never stood out , pretty disappointing for a first rounder.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
I agree. Then you drill it down. Like Patrick for example. Lets say he is nothing more than a 4th line player. He has an NHL career though as 2nd overall is it a failure?
- hello it's me 2050

Is picking him the failure, or, he himself the failure?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
Considering the majority of picks never even play in the NHL, you would have to say yes.
- MBFlyerfan



Agree and the case is not closed yet in his picks. So if he had a grade I would say B-. I do think this coming season, how the youngens do will be the statement on Hexy picks. That is enough time to see them develop and be real contributors to a winning Team.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 15 @ 11:19 AM ET
I'm not giving him credit for Provorov falling to them at 7. My mom could have made that pick.

Overall he Hextall wasn't that bad at drafting. You can't hit on every first rounder picking in the middle.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 15 @ 11:20 AM ET
I remember watching him in the Mem cup as a draft +2 I want to say, positionally sound but never stood out , pretty disappointing for a first rounder.
- ClaudeFather

You should be able to get some mileage out of your late first round picks, I'd say both Rubtsov and Frost have been disappointing, but there's still some time.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
Is picking him the failure, or, he himself the failure?
- DraftandDestroy


Wow.

Well said, dude.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 15 @ 11:24 AM ET
Is picking him the failure, or, he himself the failure?
- DraftandDestroy

It can be both.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 15 @ 11:28 AM ET
Not necessarily, though, right? One may define success as more than just beating the average, which is what you used as the benchmark.
- PT21



Well, in order to reach a consensus we must at some point settle on a criteria that is fair across all teams.

Of course some teams will be picking higher and higher picks have a better chance of playing.

So in order for it to be fair to all 31 GM's, actually playing in the NHL seems to be the fairest way to determine if you picked successfully. After all isn't that the whole point of making the picks? To get players who will play for your team?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
You should be able to get some mileage out of your late first round picks, I'd say both Rubtsov and Frost have been disappointing, but there's still some time.
- DraftandDestroy

At least Frost has shown flashes though, this past season really would have shown us a better picture but it is what it is. Hopefully he is ready to go next year.
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