TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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I always thought Murray was terrible. Nepotism was the only reason he ever got close to an NHL front office. He wasted capital in almost every move he made and that's inexcusable stupidity to damage the future AND not have a competitive team IMO. Botterill I did expect to be better. Rutherford went downhill immediately after Botterill left the Penguins org. Im a native upstate New Yorker and you guys are the only fan base in the NE US that i like so I do wish you the best. - jfkst1
I think Murray had the merit for the job, he actually iced a pretty decent team to start with. Keep in mind, he helped draft guys like Karlsson, Borowiecki, Silfverberg, Hoffman, Lehner, Stone, Zibanejad, Pageau, Dzingel and Driedger.
How much input he had with those picks could be debated, as we have debated how much of a hand he had in picking Victor Olofsson, which is factually known that his Euro scout pined for him and Murray said ok.
Botterill definitely kept Jimmy in line. I've said on here several times that had the Sabres hired a good coach in 14 or 15, hired Botterill as AGM or Director of Scouting and Murray as the GM.. I bet this organization would be kinda good. Or even better, Darcy Regier as GM, Murray AGM, Botterill Director of Player Personnel
I have close family in Pittsburgh, so the feeling is mutual. |
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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No - jochfr
no one needs your political bullpoop today dude.
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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no one needs your political bullpoop today dude. - TheSabresTaco
It's all fun and games until I bust out my space lasers. |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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I agree with Adams on saying he wants players that want to be here. If you don't want to be a part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Yes it sucks we are about to lose some good hockey players. Adams can't change the past, he can only try and hopefully fix the future. I am glad someone finally stood up and held his ground. - Buff36
This holds no water to me in sports today.
not in a cap world, not in a world where players are chasing money.
99% of players want to be where they are paid the most and the whole talk of "Im proud to be a xxxx" is all player speak. |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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Ni!!! - Michael Pachla
you said it.
Oh no I said it.
On no i said it again! |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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It's all fun and games until I bust out my space lasers. - jochfr
this is so discriminatory between who gets shot and who doesn't. I told you, we don't need this stuff today.
I can't keep up with all of the essays.
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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I think Murray had the merit for the job, he actually iced a pretty decent team to start with. Keep in mind, he helped draft guys like Karlsson, Borowiecki, Silfverberg, Hoffman, Lehner, Stone, Zibanejad, Pageau, Dzingel and Driedger.
How much input he had with those picks could be debated, as we have debated how much of a hand he had in picking Victor Olofsson, which is factually known that his Euro scout pined for him and Murray said ok.
Botterill definitely kept Jimmy in line. I've said on here several times that had the Sabres hired a good coach in 14 or 15, hired Botterill as AGM or Director of Scouting and Murray as the GM.. I bet this organization would be kinda good. Or even better, Darcy Regier as GM, Murray AGM, Botterill Director of Player Personnel
I have close family in Pittsburgh, so the feeling is mutual. - TheSabresTaco
Botts made trades that didn't work out that he shouldn't of had to because of a barren prospect pool. Hopefully with a decent foundation and a bit of a healthier prospect pool Adams and Karmanos can build something good of off that. |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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you said it.
Oh no I said it.
On no i said it again! - ImThatGuy
you thought it, now you're scum.
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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This holds no water to me in sports today.
not in a cap world, not in a world where players are chasing money.
99% of players want to be where they are paid the most and the whole talk of "Im proud to be a xxxx" is all player speak. - ImThatGuy
That's cool, we agree to disagree |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Botts made trades that didn't work out that he shouldn't of had to because of a barren prospect pool. Hopefully with a decent foundation and a bit of a healthier prospect pool Adams and Karmanos can build something good of off that. - Buff36
Botterill didn't progress. That was his downfall. Well, that and working for Kim.
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you said it.
Oh no I said it.
On no i said it again! - ImThatGuy
shrubbery
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Botterill didn't progress. That was his downfall. Well, that and working for Kim. - TheSabresTaco
the I.T. guys were holding the sabres back |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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shrubbery - Michael Pachla
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Anderdog
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Joined: 03.17.2021
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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As Friedman said, Adams can absolutely set the market by showing other teams that he won't be pushed into making a bad deal for his hockey club.
But he can't overplay his hand, either. - Powerslave
He needs to play it right, and as Friedman stated who do we think these 7 teams are.
NY
LA
Minnesota
Calgary
Anaheim
Nashville
Columbus
and maybe Vegas
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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the I.T. guys were holding the sabres back - homiedclown
You mean the one guy they leave in the basement closet?
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You mean the one guy they leave in the basement closet?
- TheSabresTaco
I dont think they got the Wuphf messages about Eakin
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Botterill didn't progress. That was his downfall. Well, that and working for Kim. - TheSabresTaco
Botterill's down fall was that he wanted to stay the course and build the team correctly but the Pegulas wanted to try and speed things up.
Boterill wanted to pay O'reilly his 7 million for a better return. Pegulas didn't.
I thought Botterill did a fine job given he wasn't making the ultimate decisions.
If the Pegulas would just fvck off we'd of been in the playoffs by now.
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Botterill didn't progress. That was his downfall. Well, that and working for Kim. - TheSabresTaco
True, I blame the Cookie maker and the Yacht Cabin Boy for a lot of that, handed a plan and agree to it only to change it in mid stream. |
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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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True, I blame the Cookie maker and the Yacht Cabin Boy for a lot of that, handed a plan and agree to it only to change it in mid stream. - Buff36
I bet he said something he shouldn't of after Kim said he was coming back and they fired him for it.
something along the lines of "Fvck off....please"
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He needs to play it right, and as Friedman stated who do we think these 7 teams are.
NY
LA
Minnesota
Calgary
Anaheim
Nashville
Columbus
and maybe Vegas - Buff36
i think minnesota is the best bet...they've got to be drooling at the prospect of landing a true no. 1 center to get them to the next level...they also have the pieces that buffalo would want and can get a good trade done without gutting their team or system
fiala or greenway
boldy or rossi
dumba (cap-dump)
2021 1st
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Botterill didn't progress. That was his downfall. Well, that and working for Kim. - TheSabresTaco
No progress? He improved every year
He finished 30th, 27th and 25th. 5 more years and he would have had us in 15th |
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