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DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 11 @ 12:15 AM ET
So Stone, the best defensive forward in the playoffs(which is more important than offence) is not a superstar?
- neem55

No, he’s not, but he’s a great player. Connor McDavid, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Alex Ovechkin are superstars.

Ottawa took him in the 6th round, damn they draft well in Ottawa.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 11 @ 12:16 AM ET
No, he’s not, but he’s a great player. Connor McDavid, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Alex Ovechkin are superstars.
- DraftandDestroy


Exactly. To be a superstar you gotta be sexy as (frank). Defense isn't sexy.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 11 @ 12:18 AM ET
Exactly. To be a superstar you gotta be sexy as (frank). Defense isn't sexy.
- NewYorkNuck

pretty much exactly what he is saying. Yzerman, Bergeron... good, not great.

Or wait, great but not a superstar. I forgot that improtant difference
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Jun 11 @ 12:19 AM ET
Exactly. To be a superstar you gotta be sexy as (frank). Defense isn't sexy.
- NewYorkNuck


Britney says Heyyo!!

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 11 @ 12:20 AM ET
Britney says Heyyo!!


- bloatedhefty


She's all offense, baby

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 11 @ 12:22 AM ET
pretty much exactly what he is saying. Yzerman, Bergeron... good, not great.

Or wait, great but not a superstar. I forgot that improtant difference

- neem55


Stone is not a superstar. Fantastic player, underrated... not a superstar.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 11 @ 12:23 AM ET
Exactly. To be a superstar you gotta be sexy as (frank). Defense isn't sexy.
- NewYorkNuck


I disregard any list of superstars that doesn't include a Goalie. It shows ignorance.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 11 @ 12:25 AM ET
pretty much exactly what he is saying. Yzerman, Bergeron... good, not great.
- neem55

I think you missed my original point entirely, just because you’re not a superstar doesn’t mean you’re not a great player, but there’s only a handful of them in the league at any one time. Mark Stone is a great player, but he’s no superstar.

Originally I said Vegas reminds me of the mid 80’s Flyers, big team but they didn’t have any superstars like Edmonton did. They had great players in Propp, Tim Kerr, Dave Poulin, Rick Tocchet, Howe, McCrimmon....just didn’t have a Gretzky, Messier or Paul Coffey.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 11 @ 12:27 AM ET
I think you missed my original point entirely, just because you’re not a superstar doesn’t mean you’re not a great player, but there’s only a handful of them in the league at any one time. Mark Stone is a great player, but he’s no superstar.

Originally I said Vegas reminds me of the mid 80’s Flyers, big team but they didn’t have any superstars like Edmonton did. They had great players in Propp, Tim Kerr, Dave Poulin, Rick Tocchet, Howe, McCrimmon....just didn’t have a Gretzky, Messier or Paul Coffey.

- DraftandDestroy

I hear that mike bossy guy was pretty great. No superstar i guess?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 11 @ 12:27 AM ET
I disregard any list of superstars that doesn't include a Goalie. It shows ignorance.
- Load Management


I would say there aren't any superstar goalies in the league right now. Carey Price sort of was a little bit ago.. but there are no Roys or Brodeurs or Haseks right now.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 11 @ 12:28 AM ET
I hear that mike bossy guy was pretty great. No superstar i guess?
- neem55



Bossy is probably top three goal scorers in NHL history, still the highest career GPG in NHL history at 0.762

1) Bossy
2) Mario
3) P. Bure
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 11 @ 12:34 AM ET


Bossy is probably top three goal scorers in NHL history, still the highest GPG in NHL history at 0.762

- DraftandDestroy

And was on the 80s flyers teams that won the cup. Next please! Great, no superstar
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 11 @ 12:36 AM ET
I would say there aren't any superstar goalies in the league right now. Carey Price sort of was a little bit ago.. but there are no Roys or Brodeurs or Haseks right now.
- NewYorkNuck


I think a decent case could be made for Fleury.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 11 @ 12:37 AM ET
I think a decent case could be made for Fleury.
- Load Management


Ya, that's true, forgot about him.. but not sure about superstar. Especially the past year or two with Vegas when he's been shuffled between backup and starter after being let go by Pitts. Doesn't scream "superstar" at that point.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 11 @ 12:38 AM ET
I think Montreal is gonna be in tough against Vegas. Most likely Tampa vs Vegas final with the Bolts repeating as champions....cheaters.
- DraftandDestroy


Tampa is a buzzsaw, nightmare matchup for anyone
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 11 @ 12:38 AM ET
I would say there aren't any superstar goalies in the league right now. Carey Price sort of was a little bit ago.. but there are no Roys or Brodeurs or Haseks right now.
- NewYorkNuck


Vasy is #1 for me
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 11 @ 12:39 AM ET
And was on the 80s flyers teams that won the cup. Next please! Great, no superstar
- neem55

The Flyers never won a cup in the 80’s, and yes, during the early 80’s Bossy was certainly an NHL superstar player, four Cups with the Islanders and lead the league in goals every year before Gretzky came along
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 11 @ 12:43 AM ET
The Flyers never won a cup in the 80’s, and yes, during the early 80’s Bossy was certainly an NHL superstar player, four Cups with the Islanders and lead the league in goals every year before Gretzky came along
- DraftandDestroy

Dammit, thats right. I still think Stone is a superstar, definetly Bossy was. Too many margaritas for me!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 11 @ 12:44 AM ET
Vasy is #1 for me
- Nucker101

Vasy and Hedman are both superstars, even i they dont have any 50 goal seasons
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 11 @ 12:44 AM ET
Dammit, thats right. I still think Stone is a superstar, definetly Bossy was. Too many margaritas for me!
- neem55

No ones trying to take that away from you, I’m just expressing my own opinion
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 11 @ 12:55 AM ET
I disregard any list of superstars that doesn't include a Goalie. It shows ignorance.
- Load Management

Billy Smith.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 11 @ 1:15 AM ET
Billy Smith.
- Marwood

How many 50 goal seasons? Was he more offensive or defensive? Cause defence wins, but offence is superstar
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 11 @ 1:23 AM ET
How many 50 goal seasons? Was he more offensive or defensive? Cause defence wins, but offence is superstar
- neem55

Billy Smith was quite offensive.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 11 @ 1:26 AM ET
Ya, that's true, forgot about him.. but not sure about superstar. Especially the past year or two with Vegas when he's been shuffled between backup and starter after being let go by Pitts. Doesn't scream "superstar" at that point.
- NewYorkNuck


No, but if you look at the career as a whole he's up there with the best. Even Gretzky rode the pine later in his career. That doesn't diminish his body of work, nor should it. Same goes for Fleury.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 11 @ 1:30 AM ET
Billy Smith was quite offensive.
- A_SteamingLombardi


First Goalie to score a goal.
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