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shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 13 @ 12:29 PM ET
don't worry i'll hold the funeral for your account.
- Pomegrant

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MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
Shouldn't you guys be chanting you suck after scoring a goal even though their losing 7-2 Whole fanbase looks like the kids who smoked cigs in HS behind the handball courts with their Iron Maiden T-Shirts on
- Isles

What’s so bad about that?
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
You're the Devils
- Isles

... and you’re the islanders. Devils have had more actual success in my lifetime than the Islanders. Congrats on getting this far this year thanks to Trotz. That’s great. So yes, we’re the Devils and have been bad more often than not the past several years. Neither of our teams have been world-beaters.. aside from Islanders making to the conference finals this season. 1 thing. Happy for you. Don’t act like you’re the Red Wings of old or anything. Sheesh.

And at the end of the day it’s just sports so who cares lol. Maybe that’s blasphemy idk.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
why are you responding. what are you doing.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 13 @ 10:54 PM ET
why are you responding. what are you doing.
- Pomegrant

Because there isn’t a new blog
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 14 @ 1:51 AM ET
Because there isn’t a new blog
- shvingter88


ding
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 14 @ 9:24 AM ET

Arguments aside, it's nice to see someone beat the Lightning. I'm pulling for the Islanders and Habs to make the final; although I think it's an uphill fight for both.

Tampa's cheating is pretty clever and technically legal but that doesn't make it right. After seeing NJ get nailed on the Kovy contract as a violation of the spirit of the cap, it is infuriating to see the league let teams really game the system. The fact that Florida already has a competitive advantage with their taxes just makes it even more insulting.



redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 14 @ 10:44 AM ET
Hurricanes give Dougie Hamilton permission to talk to other teams - hoping Fitz has him on speed dial...
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jun 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
I’m done in 2028
- shvingter88



But we might actually be really good by then! If you leave........ DOOMED
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jun 14 @ 11:40 AM ET
Hurricanes give Dougie Hamilton permission to talk to other teams - hoping Fitz has him on speed dial...
- redmonsters


Only problem is he is another RD. Not saying he wouldn't instantly be our #1D by a mile, but we need to convince him that we can have a great pairing for the guy, and he is used to the very underrated Slavin. I know they gave him permission to talk with other teams, and that is most likely do to his current asking price. They will see what offers are out there and essentially match it is my guess. Don't be surprised if they eye up a Gardiner buyout or Skjei trade before they actually let him ink with another club.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 14 @ 11:41 AM ET
Hurricanes give Dougie Hamilton permission to talk to other teams - hoping Fitz has him on speed dial...
- redmonsters


Maybe. Hes doing this in hopes of getting an 8 year deal with a new team, and i don't really want any part of that based on where this team is at. He'll be 28 when the deal starts, and that deal will be good for what, maybe 4 years tops? So with the position this team is currently in, we possibly get 1 serious playoff run with him before that deal starts to turn downhill. Imagine he has a Subban-esque decline and we have an albatross of a contract for 4-5 years when this team is ready to actually compete? Hard pass on that.

I think this news takes the Devils out of it, because anything more than 5 years doesnt make sense for us. And he's clearly not taking less than a max year deal. He can help get this team to the playoffs, but we won't be a serious contender in the prime of his deal and when we're ready to truly compete that contract will almost certainly be a big issue.

I love Dougie and wouldnt hate getting him, but i'd much rather go get Vince Dunn instead. Thats the better play here.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 14 @ 12:57 PM ET
Hurricanes give Dougie Hamilton permission to talk to other teams - hoping Fitz has him on speed dial...
- redmonsters

I’d take him but also can’t believe how this guy just doesn’t fit anywhere
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 14 @ 12:58 PM ET
But we might actually be really good by then! If you leave........ DOOMED
- bikeguy99

Doubtful
jtylerm
New Jersey Devils
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 14 @ 4:23 PM ET
Ok, let's get real here. NO! It was NOT a mistake. I get so sick of all the old Devils fans living in the memories of the mid 90s and acting like TODAY'S Lou was the girl that got away. I appreciate what Lou did for NJ in the past, but he's out of touch with today's game. He did NOTHING for the Leafs and inherited a fantastic team with the Isles. Lou was DRAGGING the Devils through the toilet and into the diarrhea filled sewers. He kept refusing to rebuild and kept signing old, useless, past their prime guys like Ryan "300 concussions" Clowe and hoping guys like Tedenby and Josefson would ever be NHL stars. I'll skip the Kovalchuk and Praise bullcrap since that deserves a book for what a monumental screw up Lou made there.

This Islanders team is NOT Lou's product. These are the Islanders players Lou was gifted: https://www.hockey-refere...e.com/teams/NYI/2018.html Even Sorokin was there before Lou! He's only added Varlamov, Pageau, Palmieri, Zajac and Greene. I love Zajac and Greene, but they are easily replaceable pieces at this point in their careers and therefore insignificant. Varlamov was mediocre for both Washington and Colorado before coming here. Varly is only seeing success now b/c all Trotz's teams elevate their goalies. Once the Isles give Varly the boot in favor of Sorokin, Varly will go right back to being mediocre on another team. Essentially adding Varly, Pageau and Palms to most other teams would not make them a playoff team. The vast majority of what is keeping the Islanders in the playoffs is b/c of what was here BEFORE Lou ever came. The best thing he did for the Isles was hire Trotz, but again, Trotz did NOT come to the Isles specifically for Lou. They are a very promising young up-and-coming team even without who Lou brought in. Lou also lost Tavares to Toronto as well.

While with the Leafs he did nothing noteworthy. I'm sure drafting Marner at 4th overall and Matthews at 1st overall were REALLY hard. And he brought in Mike Babcock, another dinosaur the current NHL game has passed by thankfully, to be locker room poison for that Leafs team.

Lou from 2010 and on is EXTREMELY overrated by boomer Devils fans. I think he was awesome how how the game was played pre-2005, but he is a relic that lucked his way into an amazing situation with the Isles and I'm tired of him getting credit for it like he built them from nothing and NJ is suffering b/c we don't have him anymore. I have been thankful every day since NJ let him go.
jtylerm
New Jersey Devils
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 14 @ 4:29 PM ET
Hurricanes give Dougie Hamilton permission to talk to other teams - hoping Fitz has him on speed dial...
- redmonsters


HARD PASS
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:51 AM ET
Ok, let's get real here. NO! It was NOT a mistake. I get so sick of all the old Devils fans living in the memories of the mid 90s and acting like TODAY'S Lou was the girl that got away. I appreciate what Lou did for NJ in the past, but he's out of touch with today's game. He did NOTHING for the Leafs and inherited a fantastic team with the Isles. Lou was DRAGGING the Devils through the toilet and into the diarrhea filled sewers. He kept refusing to rebuild and kept signing old, useless, past their prime guys like Ryan "300 concussions" Clowe and hoping guys like Tedenby and Josefson would ever be NHL stars. I'll skip the Kovalchuk and Praise bullcrap since that deserves a book for what a monumental screw up Lou made there.

This Islanders team is NOT Lou's product. These are the Islanders players Lou was gifted: https://www.hockey-refere...e.com/teams/NYI/2018.html Even Sorokin was there before Lou! He's only added Varlamov, Pageau, Palmieri, Zajac and Greene. I love Zajac and Greene, but they are easily replaceable pieces at this point in their careers and therefore insignificant. Varlamov was mediocre for both Washington and Colorado before coming here. Varly is only seeing success now b/c all Trotz's teams elevate their goalies. Once the Isles give Varly the boot in favor of Sorokin, Varly will go right back to being mediocre on another team. Essentially adding Varly, Pageau and Palms to most other teams would not make them a playoff team. The vast majority of what is keeping the Islanders in the playoffs is b/c of what was here BEFORE Lou ever came. The best thing he did for the Isles was hire Trotz, but again, Trotz did NOT come to the Isles specifically for Lou. They are a very promising young up-and-coming team even without who Lou brought in. Lou also lost Tavares to Toronto as well.

While with the Leafs he did nothing noteworthy. I'm sure drafting Marner at 4th overall and Matthews at 1st overall were REALLY hard. And he brought in Mike Babcock, another dinosaur the current NHL game has passed by thankfully, to be locker room poison for that Leafs team.

Lou from 2010 and on is EXTREMELY overrated by boomer Devils fans. I think he was awesome how how the game was played pre-2005, but he is a relic that lucked his way into an amazing situation with the Isles and I'm tired of him getting credit for it like he built them from nothing and NJ is suffering b/c we don't have him anymore. I have been thankful every day since NJ let him go.

- jtylerm

There is so much wrong with this post I don’t know where to start. Like I said in an earlier post it was Lou’s time to move on from the Devils imo but that doesn’t make this post any better
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 15 @ 10:30 AM ET
Ok, let's get real here. NO! It was NOT a mistake. I get so sick of all the old Devils fans living in the memories of the mid 90s and acting like TODAY'S Lou was the girl that got away. I appreciate what Lou did for NJ in the past, but he's out of touch with today's game. He did NOTHING for the Leafs and inherited a fantastic team with the Isles. Lou was DRAGGING the Devils through the toilet and into the diarrhea filled sewers. He kept refusing to rebuild and kept signing old, useless, past their prime guys like Ryan "300 concussions" Clowe and hoping guys like Tedenby and Josefson would ever be NHL stars. I'll skip the Kovalchuk and Praise bullcrap since that deserves a book for what a monumental screw up Lou made there.

This Islanders team is NOT Lou's product. These are the Islanders players Lou was gifted: https://www.hockey-refere...e.com/teams/NYI/2018.html Even Sorokin was there before Lou! He's only added Varlamov, Pageau, Palmieri, Zajac and Greene. I love Zajac and Greene, but they are easily replaceable pieces at this point in their careers and therefore insignificant. Varlamov was mediocre for both Washington and Colorado before coming here. Varly is only seeing success now b/c all Trotz's teams elevate their goalies. Once the Isles give Varly the boot in favor of Sorokin, Varly will go right back to being mediocre on another team. Essentially adding Varly, Pageau and Palms to most other teams would not make them a playoff team. The vast majority of what is keeping the Islanders in the playoffs is b/c of what was here BEFORE Lou ever came. The best thing he did for the Isles was hire Trotz, but again, Trotz did NOT come to the Isles specifically for Lou. They are a very promising young up-and-coming team even without who Lou brought in. Lou also lost Tavares to Toronto as well.

While with the Leafs he did nothing noteworthy. I'm sure drafting Marner at 4th overall and Matthews at 1st overall were REALLY hard. And he brought in Mike Babcock, another dinosaur the current NHL game has passed by thankfully, to be locker room poison for that Leafs team.

Lou from 2010 and on is EXTREMELY overrated by boomer Devils fans. I think he was awesome how how the game was played pre-2005, but he is a relic that lucked his way into an amazing situation with the Isles and I'm tired of him getting credit for it like he built them from nothing and NJ is suffering b/c we don't have him anymore. I have been thankful every day since NJ let him go.

- jtylerm


Now there are decaf coffees that taste just as good as the real thing...
Try some!
Banana_Hammock
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 10.01.2020

Jun 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Bastian resigned, 2 yrs, 825k AAV.
jtylerm
New Jersey Devils
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
Now there are decaf coffees that taste just as good as the real thing...
Try some!

- Queenie_5_hole


I've seen you write just as long as practice what you preach.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
I've seen you write just as long as practice what you preach.
- jtylerm

Hello, I do not believe that comment had anything to do with the length of the post. rather the tone of the post. Its a friendly site, we are all fans, no need to knock anyone (especially the old folk boomers ). Feel free to express your viewpoints, and note there are constructive ways to say things rather then antagonistic. Otherwise you come off as a troll, which I do not believe you were trying to be.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Jun 15 @ 11:14 AM ET
Yes! In answer to the headline and It was also a mistake for Toronto, Lamoriello Is solid but don't forget the Islanders have the best coach on planet earth.
jtylerm
New Jersey Devils
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
There is so much wrong with this post I don’t know where to start. Like I said in an earlier post it was Lou’s time to move on from the Devils imo but that doesn’t make this post any better
- Cptmjl


What is wrong about it? Defend Lou's actions from 2010 to present then. If Lou was building a team from scratch it would be a bunch of useless old guys. He kept stacking with pylons like Ryder, Havlat, Clowe, Rolston, Cammalleri, Tallinder, Janssen, Barch, Kostopoulos, Tootoo, Rutuu. Some of these guys had good careers when they were YOUNG, but in terms of when they came to NJ they were all STUPID signings.

I'm not saying Lou was always useless. I'm specifically talking about from 2010 and on. We had a good run in the 2012 playoffs but that was mostly luck. The 2012 team was NOT a super talented team. It's very rare that Stanley Cup winners don't have a lot of serious talent.
jtylerm
New Jersey Devils
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
Hello, I do not believe that comment had anything to do with the length of the post. rather the tone of the post. Its a friendly site, we are all fans, no need to knock anyone (especially the old folk boomers ). Feel free to express your viewpoints, and note there are constructive ways to say things rather then antagonistic. Otherwise you come off as a troll, which I do not believe you were trying to be.
- redmonsters



that's fair enough, I didn't mean that old fans are stupid. Maybe some misunderstood that. It is annoying that I keep hearing some fans, almost always old people who were out of high school by the 1995 Cup, complaining about how the Isles are doing so much better than us and it is all b/c of Lou and we could be doing just as good if we still had Lou at the helm. It's delusional thinking.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 15 @ 11:22 AM ET
Reports are coming out that the Devils have interest in Rasmus Ristolainen.

I'd like to think this team, and Fitz, is smart enough to not give up any worthwhile prospect or pick for him right? RIGHT? I wouldn't give up anything more than a 4th or 5th for him, and even that's pushing it
jtylerm
New Jersey Devils
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:36 AM ET
Reports are coming out that the Devils have interest in Rasmus Ristolainen.

I'd like to think this team, and Fitz, is smart enough to give up any worthwhile prospect or pick for him right? RIGHT?

- vlongo4419



I hope we avoid Risto. The only thing I'd like to see NJ bring in is a mentor for Blackwood the way Crawford was supposed to be before he wimped out like bratty little girl. Don't go making big UFA signings or blockbuster trades this year. Let the kids we have grow more and save the cap space when we need to shell out big money for Jack. The Devils are at least 2 years away from being actually competitive. Wait til then to try bringing in stars for playoff pushes.
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