So apparently Sandstrom isn't playing overseas next season?
- Ftown19125

It’s not really clear to me. He signed to play in Europe. He signed with the Flyers and will be the goalie exposed in the Seattle expansion draft.

🤔

It’s not really clear to me. He signed to play in Europe. He signed with the Flyers and will be the goalie exposed in the Seattle expansion draft.

🤔
- NC Flyers Fan

Smoke screen to Seattle, Don’t pick me or I’ll bounce ?

Smoke screen to Seattle, Don’t pick me or I’ll bounce ?
- ClaudeFather

I thought about that the other day...maybe he REALLY doesn’t want to go to Seattle.

If tanking improved odds so much (zomg 40x!), and talent is the main decider, we should see a more even distribution of Cup wins between teams that have hardcore sucked over the past decade or so (Thrashers, Sabres, Oilers, Panthers, Senators, Islanders, etc), right?

Instead we have just a couple of teams winning the majority of the Cups. They landed the right picks, in the right years, under the right circumstances.

Imagine if Bill Wirtz hadn't died when he did. It wouldn't matter how transcendent Kane + Toews were, there would have been no dynasty b/c Bill wouldn't have paid to keep the band together. Just ask JR, Belfour, Chelios and Amonte. Wondering if they'd even win one, since I kinda doubt they would have traded for Hossa or signed Campbell w/o new ownership.

And the Pens... without Mario digging them out of insolvency and laying the groundwork for a new arena, Sid would have been a Duck or a Wild or something. Malkin a Cane or a Coyote.

Even with top talent, if everything else doesn't line up just right, you're simply not gonna win jack poop.
- Tomahawk

In bolded order:

No. That would only be the case if said talent is evenly distributed across the top of the draft and across every year. I never said it was.

And again with this reasoning? Did I ever say that you just drafted high and that is all it took and it was a ticket to the parade? it gives you far better odd than the alternative is what I said.

Anyway, whats your plan to the cup? Couturier and Hayes are your likely 1-2 for the next many years. If not 1-2, then they are 2 of top 3. You surely don't expect them to contend next 2 years or so. That means both will be 30+ before we reach contending status. What was the last team that won and had 18% of their salary tied up in 2 top centers each over 30? Lets hear some details without wild "maybe Foerster will be a 50 goal a year player" type craziness.

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Hey poop poop I literally have 100’s of email accounts and numbers. You ban when your code of conduct isn’t broken in the least. (frank) your site you (frank)s mods. To all the regular posters for the most part you’re all cool even when not in agreement. But (frank) this site. Literally put a 4 month ban when wasn’t off topic. No swearing. No name calling so obviously if a comment is flagged they just give a ban. Fake ass ek rumor site
- Im back yet again

I’m back
Sms4016

Both agree with this 100%

Now you morons have a reason to ban
- Im back yet again

Not that it’ll stop anyone with 100’s of accounts.

Not that it’ll stop anyone with 100’s of accounts.
- Im back yet again

How do you keep track of 100's of accounts and still have a life worth living?

With all that I think I’m done with this site. Maybe I’ll be back after next season to discuss how season played out. Surely my thoughts and theories well documented. Heave a great summer everyone and great hockey season

How do you keep track of 100's of accounts and still have a life worth living?
- MBFlyerfan

Only use them when these poop sites
ban for no reason. Literally ban put on for nothing earlier today. Ridiculous

Only use them when these poop sites
ban for no reason. Literally ban put on for nothing earlier today. Ridiculous
- Im back yet again

Well, you really shouldn't have said Toffoli would not have done well in Philly because the team around him would have been too slow. That was uncalled for.

EDIT: by the way, this was a joke. I have never flagged anyone on HB in my life

I’m back
Sms4016

Both agree with this 100%
- Im back yet again

As does CRUSH IT LIKE ME

Those teams for the most part aren’t going anywhere, I disagree, this needs to be torn down now. We have a ton of young guys that could be major pieces down the road in Farabee York Frost TK Hart sanheim Frost , probably forgetting some others, you go full rebuild and hopefully get some good players and or trade / sign what’s necessary. Who’s to say we can’t get out rantanen and makar after a few down years?
- ClaudeFather

Appreciate your opinion. Maybe we can get them, maybe we can’t. Tearing it down requires willing partners with value to return. If you are not a contender you are holding top picks until the cap starts to go up again.

Only use them when these poop sites
ban for no reason. Literally ban put on for nothing earlier today. Ridiculous
- Im back yet again

If you need hundreds of different email addresses for getting banned?

It's you, not them.

Well, you really shouldn't have said Toffoli would not have done well in Philly because the team around him would have been too slow. That was uncalled for.

EDIT: by the way, this was a joke. I have never flagged anyone on HB in my life
- PT21

My ban was from a response to jd50 neither of us nasty in the least. Just a little opinion on both sides with agreement on most things. So dumb these bans.

If you need hundreds of different email addresses for getting banned?

It's you, not them.
- DrMidnite

No this site bans for not agreeing with opinion. No code of conduct broken WHATS so ever yet ban? Multiple people have complained about this.

If you need hundreds of different email addresses for getting banned?

It's you, not them.
- DrMidnite

For the record I’ve never flagged any comment on any platform if something is really offensive I consider the source and either respond or ignore them. I’m not into the whole censor someone’s opinion

Hey poop poop I literally have 100’s of email accounts and numbers. You ban when your code of conduct isn’t broken in the least. (frank) your site you (frank)s mods. To all the regular posters for the most part you’re all cool even when not in agreement. But (frank) this site. Literally put a 4 month ban when wasn’t off topic. No swearing. No name calling so obviously if a comment is flagged they just give a ban. Fake ass ek rumor site
- Im back yet again

Soooooo....how are things?

On a side note so mad I miss alumni game.. it’s my sons graduation day or I would’ve made trip for it

On a side note so mad I miss alumni game.. it’s my sons graduation day or I would’ve made trip for it
- Im back yet again

I did make a donation tho in bills honor even tho he gave that sms guy a 1 year ban. Wink wink

7 of the last 12 cups were won by teams with generational or close to generational players. Pens had 3 with Crosby, Hawks had 3 with Kane, Caps had 1 with Ovi. While I agree picking higher yields better results, what else is true is that what year you pick is more important. Would those 3 teams win the cup with normal #1 picks? My guess is no. Yes having a top center, goalie and D are keys to winning but to tank and just draft has real challenges to it.


Then look at the teams that won like LA, big 3 positions filled due to draft, but it was the trades and the players they brought in that moved them to Cup status.

Bottom line to me, tanking and building through all top 5 picks can just as easily end up to be like the Oilers and Sabres and not like the Kings, Tampa or the AV's. The jury is still out on the Av's, but again, they were lucky to draft when Mackinnon was #1 pick. They have drafted well but they also traded well to acquire picks that turned into good players, I am a fan of that. Then you have Vegas, built mostly without Drafting, the opposite of Tampa, who built through the draft. Tampa still needed luck to have a Hedman available, still needed to pull in the right FA's and make the right trades.

If you have a well run franchise, wealthy owner and patient fan base, can you build a champion thru the draft, sure, but you still need luck on the talent level of the draft. Then you still need FA and trades to finish the process.

Should the Flyers have done a full rebuild? Looking back, probably, but that is looking back, everyone is an expert at that. Pushing out a G and Jake at close to their peak is a really tough call. I was all for hold them and build on the Fly, unfortunately the build took as long as a tank would.

The process was and is way to long at this point. Hextall did not hit on picks, on the later round picks or even his 1st round picks. Some nice players for sure, some with upside but no game changers, not even the next G, so far. This coming year is the make it or break it for the Hextall picks and current player regime. Could the Flyers have the perfect off-season and look more like Vegas next season? It would all have to land perfect but yes it could. I think it was Bill who covered how hard it is to win the cup, who laid out how many franchises went decades with no cup.

To me, bottom line, it is really hard to win a cup no matter how you do it. To me, you need LUCK with top picks being that much better than the norm. Luck with injuries, luck with trades and luck with timing. It is not a one size fits all.
- wcorvette

Ah. "LUCK." The one thing we Philly fans are so used to having.

Well, you really shouldn't have said Toffoli would not have done well in Philly because the team around him would have been too slow. That was uncalled for.

EDIT: by the way, this was a joke. I have never flagged anyone on HB in my life
- PT21

I wouldn’t even know how to flag someone....if I have it was by mistake.

If you need hundreds of different email addresses for getting banned?

It's you, not them.
- DrMidnite

Lol seriously. If you have 100s of email addresses you’re a (frank)ing whacko.

They had 2 choices imo:

1. Rebuild completely and tear it downz.

2. Build around Giroux Jake Schenn Simmonds Couturier and Ivan.

They half assed it and they are still stuck in neutral.
- hello it's me 2050

This isn’t entirely true but you bring up and interesting point, that I’d like to point out.

Provorov wasn’t apart of the group you claim they tried to build around. For along time it was the 5 forwards you named. Schenn only saw one season with Konency and Provorov. Once we drafted Nolan Patrick, that same draft Schenn was traded within a couple of hours. As most know, I was against the Schenn deal. I still am.

Really think about it. Schenn was a really good, young player for us. We let him go and the wheels kinda feel off a little. Patrick wasn’t what we had hoped and Simmonds showed signs of decline that same season. So what do we do? We sign JvR to replace Simmonds’ role and we sign Hayes to be a better two way forward than Schenn was but you can question whether or not Hayes is what we expected.

I very much would have liked to have seen a season of Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Simmonds, Konency, Patrick and Schenn on one team.

My ban was from a response to jd50 neither of us nasty in the least. Just a little opinion on both sides with agreement on most things. So dumb these bans.
- Im back yet again

I see. I don't remember you saying anything ever thats 'bannable', but I did not see it for Kingkenzo or Claudefather either. Or, at least in the last instance, for MJL either. But hey, what do I know. 🤷