What would it cost to acquire Tkachuk?

Strome and Beaudin?
Strome and Mitchell?

Tkachuk is the type of player this team needs....

Exhale....
- mike7076

You're kidding, eh?

Then he should not have played.
- LFS

They ALL play injured.

I said trade Kane IF Toews is finished
- LFS

It doesn't matter. You are saying trade Kane if Toews is finished because they cannot compete for a cup, but keep them both if Toews is not finished even though they cannot compete for a cup?

What is the reasoning on the second condition there?

They ALL play injured.
- 35Tony0

Seriously. How many players would have been out of the lineup in the 2015 Cup final if they did not play due to injury?

You're kidding, eh?
- mohel

I think he's talking about Keith.

What would it cost to acquire Tkachuk?

Strome and Beaudin?
Strome and Mitchell?

Tkachuk is the type of player this team needs....

Exhale....
- mike7076

First, it is going to take a lot more than either of those deals to secure Tkachuk IMO.

Second, he is the type of player every team needs, so if he is leaving, the bidding war will begin.

Third, if he wants to win a Cup, is Chicago to the place to be in the next three years unless they substantially overpay him?

Hold on
- vabeachbear

Well played!!

What would it cost to acquire Tkachuk?

Strome and Beaudin?
Strome and Mitchell?

Tkachuk is the type of player this team needs....

Exhale....
- mike7076

Judging by some of the posts lately, I’d venture to guess there’s a whole lot of inhaling going on around here.

First, it is going to take a lot more than either of those deals to secure Tkachuk IMO.

Second, he is the type of player every team needs, so if he is leaving, the bidding war will begin.

Third, if he wants to win a Cup, is Chicago to the place to be in the next three years unless they substantially overpay him?
- jrsamu

I agree with what you are saying here, but I think the financial situation throughout the league may dictate some of where players go and for how much. There is a flat cap (for I believe the next two years?), and teams will only have so much money to spend on players. I'm sure there are ways to get financially creative, but I think it will end up limiting some options and name players may just have to settle for a second or third choice.

What would it cost to acquire Tkachuk?

Strome and Beaudin?
Strome and Mitchell?

Tkachuk is the type of player this team needs....

Exhale....
- mike7076

Nope. Calgary hangs up the phone on you.

While I like Matthew Tkachuk, I think acquiring him may cost more then the Hawks have or are willing to pay.

But maybe there is a deal here:
https://www.prohockeyrumo...ers-for-sean-monahan.html

I don't like his salary but if the Hawks want to move on from Strome, Monahan is more established, about the same size, better at the dot, better career PPG, fancy stats say he can hold his own and has gotten a few votes for the Selke over the years.

I dont know, maybe.

Nope. Calgary hangs up the phone on you.

While I like Matthew Tkachuk, I think acquiring him may cost more then the Hawks have or are willing to pay.

But maybe there is a deal here:
https://www.prohockeyrumo...ers-for-sean-monahan.html

I don't like his salary but if the Hawks want to move on from Strome, Monahan is more established, about the same size, better at the dot, better career PPG, fancy stats say he can hold his own and has gotten a few votes for the Selke over the years.

I dont know, maybe.
- Rota's Rooter

When trading for a "good" player in any sport, adding more crap to your pile of crap does not get it done. You have to give to get.

When trading for a "good" player in any sport, adding more crap to your pile of crap does not get it done. You have to give to get.
- rpeters01

You're kidding, eh?
- mohel

Oh if it were that easy.....
Tkachuk/Toews/Kubalik
Dcat/Dach/Kane

When trading for a "good" player in any sport, adding more crap to your pile of crap does not get it done. You have to give to get.
- rpeters01

Oh I know that and I wasn't implying that "The" Dylan Strome and a newbie, unproven defenseman with "potential" would get a trade done.

I just think that if Calgary is ready to shake things up they'd probably move Monahan before Tkachuk and the asking price just may be a bit more reasonable.

Oh I know that and I wasn't implying that "The" Dylan Strome and a newbie, unproven defenseman with "potential" would get a trade done.

I just think that if Calgary is ready to shake things up they'd probably move Monahan before Tkachuk and the asking price just may be a bit more reasonable.
- Rota's Rooter

I saw that rumor, too, about Monahan on the trade block. Would be interesting if the Hawks kicked the tires on him as a center upgrade especially if Toews is not healthy enough next season and/or Strome is on the outs.

Monahan is 26 so he'd fit in with a rebuild. The main consideration is what would need to be given up to acquire him so how would that impact the rebuild as far as not giving up key prospects and high draft picks.

Agree, too, that the Flames may lean towards retaining Tkachuk long term over Monahan if they had to choose between them.

Ok just asking your opinion
- Scott1977

Hey Scott, I know you're high on Mason McTavish being the Hawks selection in the draft. NHL Central Scouting just named him #2 for North American skaters behind Owen Power.

McTavish was actually born in Switzerland so in the event that Hawks do select him, he would have Kurashev and Suter (if re-signed) as possible mentors.

Most know that Kurashev was raised in Switzerland but is actually Russian.

I saw that rumor, too, about Monahan on the trade block. Would be interesting if the Hawks kicked the tires on him as a center upgrade especially if Toews is not healthy enough next season and/or Strome is on the outs.

Monahan is 26 so he'd fit in with a rebuild. The main consideration is what would need to be given up to acquire him so how would that impact the rebuild as far as not giving up key prospects and high draft picks.

Agree, too, that the Flames may lean towards retaining Tkachuk long term over Monahan if they had to choose between them.
- Theo Fox

He's also got a 10-team No Trade List that kicked in this season. I've always like Monahan's game. His contract isn't exorbitant either for what he provides. As you said, it would depend on what you have to give up.

Oh I know that and I wasn't implying that "The" Dylan Strome and a newbie, unproven defenseman with "potential" would get a trade done.

I just think that if Calgary is ready to shake things up they'd probably move Monahan before Tkachuk and the asking price just may be a bit more reasonable.
- Rota's Rooter

Yeah Tkachuk at 6'2" 205, sandpaper and 23 averaging 50-70 points a year (77 in 2018-2019), he'd cost us well I don't think we have the assets to get him short of including DCat in the deal. He's definitely a player most if not all teams would want. If we had him, it would be so exciting. We haven't had a player like him since Secord or maybe Buff, great mix of grit and skill.

I'm pretty sure the Strome + unproven defenseman was a joke.

The above said, he's a RFA in 22-23, so the only chance I see him moving is if negotiations are tough or if he's offer sheeted, which I think Calgary would match.

Yeah Tkachuk at 6'2" 205, sandpaper and 23 averaging 50-70 points a year (77 in 2018-2019), he'd cost us well I don't think we have the assets to get him short of including DCat in the deal. He's definitely a player most if not all teams would want. If we had him, it would be so exciting. We haven't had a player like him since Secord or maybe Buff, great mix of grit and skill.

I'm pretty sure the Strome + unproven defenseman was a joke.

The above said, he's a RFA in 22-23, so the only chance I see him moving is if negotiations are tough or if he's offer sheeted, which I think Calgary would match.
- Popsghostly

Serious question, when is the last time an NHL offer sheet worked where the team offering the contract actually attained the player? Weber, or was he traded after NSH kept him for a few years?

He's also got a 10-team No Trade List that kicked in this season. I've always like Monahan's game. His contract isn't exorbitant either for what he provides. As you said, it would depend on what you have to give up.
- Chunk

Why the drop in point production?

Serious question, when is the last time an NHL offer sheet worked where the team offering the contract actually attained the player? Weber, or was he traded after NSH kept him for a few years?
- Chunk

Off the top of my head, Penner?

You're kidding, eh?
- mohel

Seems like a reasonable trade to me.

And for the millionth time, stop mocking Canadians .... eh!

Serious question, when is the last time an NHL offer sheet worked where the team offering the contract actually attained the player? Weber, or was he traded after NSH kept him for a few years?
- Chunk

https://en.wikipedia.org/..._have_signed_offer_sheets
It looks like Dustin Penner in 2007 was the last one that wasn't matched.

I saw that rumor, too, about Monahan on the trade block. Would be interesting if the Hawks kicked the tires on him as a center upgrade especially if Toews is not healthy enough next season and/or Strome is on the outs.

Monahan is 26 so he'd fit in with a rebuild. The main consideration is what would need to be given up to acquire him so how would that impact the rebuild as far as not giving up key prospects and high draft picks.

Agree, too, that the Flames may lean towards retaining Tkachuk long term over Monahan if they had to choose between them.
- Theo Fox

What about Alexander Wennberg as a free agent? Same age as Monahan, and had a good year under Q. Maybe not as much offense, but better defensively. You could probably get him for less than Monahan makes, and don't have to give up anything.

What about Alexander Wennberg as a free agent? Same age as Monahan, and had a good year under Q. Maybe not as much offense, but better defensively. You could probably get him for less than Monahan makes, and don't have to give up anything.
- LAHawk

If the Hawks are seeking a 3C, definitely kick the tires on Wennberg. Like you said, he's strong defensively and provides decent secondary scoring. He's capable of 0.50 PPG. I'd take that for a middle 6 pivot.

But if the Hawks want a top 6 center, Monahan would be worth considering.

Perhaps the Hawks need both. Wennberg is the easier get. Monahan would cost a lot more but could be worth it.