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SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

May 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
Thats not the take. Theres no arguing that. Its the 9 points in 49 games and the two 30 point seasons prior to missing a season. You add that to the uninspiring performances night in and night out and you have a disgruntled fanbase.
- Thrashahoy

Are we rewinding back to the 90’s when we made players play through concussions?
SuperSchennBros
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May 7 @ 9:42 PM ET
Id just sign him to the league minimum and treat him like a bubble roster player next year. Wouldn’t bat an eye if he needed to be put through waivers if this keeps up
- Just5

We truly are headed to Idiocracy with these posts.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 7 @ 9:45 PM ET
Not that it matters anymore this year...but why is one of the worst defensive centres in the NHL (if not the worst) on the ice with 2 minutes left with a one goal lead ? AV does make some curious decisions.
- landros 2


If he is going to play in the bottom 6, he needs to become better defensively. These games are a good chance for practice and experience.

On the flip side, the d-pairs were rolled out situational in many cases, and I thought the use and combos worked.
Thrashahoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.07.2018

May 7 @ 9:50 PM ET
The fact you even have to ask this question shows how clueless you are.
- SuperSchennBros


honestly I feel bad for the kid. I said before on the boards I thought they should have sent him back to juniors after missing a lot of the season in brandon due to injury and then start him in the ahl. But its all hindsight now. I rememeber the fans for clamoring for change and for progress and I think they rushed him.

I dont know, he just doesnt seem to be attacking like his career depended on it. I'm sure he wants to score and is probably feeling sorry for himself but if you want to win cups, I dont see him as a third or second line center to get there.. now or next season.


DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

May 7 @ 9:53 PM ET
Some things to look forward to for next season...York calm and competent...2 goals for Allison...Zamula looked like an NHL player in the making...Farabee may end up with 20. Its gonna be a long summer. Biggest question of all is Hart...without a number one goalie nothing else really matters
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 7 @ 9:55 PM ET
honestly I feel bad for the kid. I said before on the boards I thought they should have sent him back to juniors after missing a lot of the season in brandon due to injury and then start him in the ahl. But its all hindsight now. I rememeber the fans for clamoring for change and for progress and I think they rushed him.

I dont know, he just doesnt seem to be attacking like his career depended on it. I'm sure he wants to score and is probably feeling sorry for himself but if you want to win cups, I dont see him as a third or second line center to get there.. now or next season.

- Thrashahoy


I echo this post. For him there’s no shame in rebuilding his career in the A. That’s where he belongs right now.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

May 7 @ 9:56 PM ET
Head issues? Migraines were that bad you think?
- SMS4016



The priest was called in for last rites....at one point. As others have suggested, it’s not the fans expect the production of a 2nd over all pick. ....I think it’s fair to ask for him to at least pull his weight defensively and provide a reason to be in the lineup every night...I’m sure it was a tough on the kid, but the training wheels should be coming off by now. He’s a liability at this point.
CRUSH IT LIKE ME
Location: Give me 20 of Kunitz vs 20 girouxs
Joined: 04.25.2021

May 7 @ 9:56 PM ET
Allison is already a cliche spittin seasoned vet
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.07.2007

May 7 @ 9:59 PM ET
If he is going to play in the bottom 6, he needs to become better defensively. These games are a good chance for practice and experience.

On the flip side, the d-pairs were rolled out situational in many cases, and I thought the use and combos worked.

- NC Flyers Fan


I get that to a point....but when the other 18 or so guys have worked this head to build a lead against a good team, is it fair to them to put this liability on the ice in that situation?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

May 7 @ 9:59 PM ET
The fact you even have to ask this question shows how clueless you are.
- SuperSchennBros

As stated too many times ... as a migraine sufferer I can assure you migraines were not his issue. Concussions were. And symptoms from concussions not limited to migraines
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 7 @ 10:01 PM ET
Some things to look forward to for next season...York calm and competent...2 goals for Allison...Zamula looked like an NHL player in the making...Farabee may end up with 20. Its gonna be a long summer. Biggest question of all is Hart...without a number one goalie nothing else really matters
- DANCER


I’m not sure why....but I think Hart will be strong next year....I think he has the mental makeup to put this behind him. I agree though, he’s a big piece of the puzzle.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

May 7 @ 10:04 PM ET
Id just sign him to the league minimum and treat him like a bubble roster player next year. Wouldn’t bat an eye if he needed to be put through waivers if this keeps up
- Just5



I think you sign to another 1 year deal....and hope he shows up next year. He’s starting to run out of chances....at least in Philly. But they aren’t there yet.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 7 @ 10:07 PM ET
But is anybody trying to chase him out of town or calling him stupid? Nope.
- Tomahawk



ThE w0rK 3tH!c tH0uGh!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 7 @ 10:08 PM ET
I get that to a point....but when the other 18 or so guys have worked this head to build a lead against a good team, is it fair to them to put this liability on the ice in that situation?
- landros 2


I think that they are all fully aware of the situation they are in...getting better starts now in games that don’t really count against them.

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 7 @ 10:09 PM ET
I echo this post. For him there’s no shame in rebuilding his career in the A. That’s where he belongs right now.
- Just5



Would he make it through waivers
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

May 7 @ 10:11 PM ET
honestly I feel bad for the kid. I said before on the boards I thought they should have sent him back to juniors after missing a lot of the season in brandon due to injury and then start him in the ahl. But its all hindsight now. I rememeber the fans for clamoring for change and for progress and I think they rushed him.

I dont know, he just doesnt seem to be attacking like his career depended on it. I'm sure he wants to score and is probably feeling sorry for himself but if you want to win cups, I dont see him as a third or second line center to get there.. now or next season.

- Thrashahoy

So you just brought up the Brandon injuries. Ok, great replace to start. After this we rush him into the NHL where he puts up back to back 30 point seasons as an 18 to 20 year old, so we know he’s capable. Kid goes from April 22nd 2018 playoffs to not playing till January 13th 2021 regular without competitive NHL hockey. We clearly signed Hayes in the summer of 2018 because this team knew something was wrong. Do the math guys. He missed 2 full years without playing hockey and now you want him to be 2004’s version of Eric Staal?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
Would he make it through waivers
- wcorvette


No
SuperSchennBros
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May 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
As stated too many times ... as a migraine sufferer I can assure you migraines were not his issue. Concussions were. And symptoms from concussions not limited to migraines
- SMS4016

So if this is your belief, as a Flyers fan who has seen this before, why no sympathy for the kid?
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
man, two in a row? you're asking for a lot from this team.
- Doc_Sarcasm

I believe in you guys

At the very least, I would ask for an overtime or shootout loss from you guys. Just cant let them win in regulation.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 7 @ 10:19 PM ET
I believe in you guys

At the very least, I would ask for an overtime or shootout loss from you guys. Just cant let them win in regulation.

- SuperHenderson13


I hate to break it to you...this comes from a believer too...we haven’t been able to put together back-to-back great outings for ourselves in a while now. Not really gonna promise...we’ll see.
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

May 7 @ 10:21 PM ET
Some things to look forward to for next season...York calm and competent...2 goals for Allison...Zamula looked like an NHL player in the making...Farabee may end up with 20. Its gonna be a long summer. Biggest question of all is Hart...without a number one goalie nothing else really matters
- DANCER


I agree if the goaltending does not improve they won’t win next season no matter what. I think they need to find a strong 1B capable of multiple statrts in case Hart falters. I think (hope) Hart will bounce back. But I don’t think they can gamble on another season without a top backup.
SuperSchennBros
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May 7 @ 10:23 PM ET
Derek Grant just scored
SuperSchennBros
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May 7 @ 10:25 PM ET
I agree if the goaltending does not improve they won’t win next season no matter what. I think they need to find a strong 1B capable of multiple statrts in case Hart falters. I think (hope) Hart will bounce back. But I don’t think they can gamble on another season without a top backup.
- Djapana

Honestly, Cam Talbot was a missed opportunity.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 7 @ 10:30 PM ET
Derek Grant just scored
- SuperSchennBros

cool when is patrick going to score next mr sage
SuperSchennBros
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May 7 @ 10:31 PM ET
cool when is patrick going to score next mr sage
- 2Real

He hasn’t made his Hayes payday yet. Hasn’t gotten his 2real pass yet.
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