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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 6 @ 4:25 PM ET
Are they really starting York paired with Morin tomorrow? Is this coaching staff on drugs?
- StepfordSam


They are going to rotate around personnel, per AV. But that was a pairing today and they will likely start the game together their first shift or two.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 6 @ 4:32 PM ET
Buch gets 1 game for crossing checking guy intentionally in face. But Ghosts gets 2.
- arichardson22


How many games? ...where the wheel lands is anyone’s guess.

No one wants to hear this, but I wondered if Friedman embellished a bit. With no history of supplemental discipline, Ghost’s punishment is strange. It was after the whistle so maybe that is why it was more than a penalty and warning. 2 games though.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 6 @ 4:40 PM ET
We’ve had the passed number of offseason to move Ghost. The Flyers probably could have traded Ghost for Kadri who can do as much as Hayes as a lesser cost. The Flyers chose not to.
- SuperSchennBros


Kadri was traded for Barrie and Kerfoot... Barrie coming off consecutive near 60-pt seasons and Kerfoot consecutive 40-pt seasons. What kind of package with Ghost would have beat that?
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 6 @ 4:50 PM ET
How many games? ...where the wheel lands is anyone’s guess.

No one wants to hear this, but I wondered if Friedman embellished a bit. With no history of supplemental discipline, Ghost’s punishment is strange. It was after the whistle so maybe that is why it was more than a penalty and warning. 2 games though.

- NC Flyers Fan


Scottie Upshall called it a dive on Twitter lol
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
Kadri was traded for Barrie and Kerfoot... Barrie coming off consecutive near 60-pt seasons and Kerfoot consecutive 40-pt seasons. What kind of package with Ghost would have beat that?
- Tomahawk


Pesky other teams to compete with for players...

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 6 @ 4:56 PM ET
Scottie Upshall called it a dive on Twitter lol
- arichardson22


Gotta call it like he sees it.

Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

May 6 @ 5:00 PM ET
Buch gets 1 game for crossing checking guy intentionally in face. But Ghosts gets 2.
- arichardson22


Woe to anyone who enters the DoPS's Wheel O' Discipline
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 6 @ 5:03 PM ET
Woe to anyone who enters the DoPS's Wheel O' Discipline
- Sublime55

You get a gAme!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 6 @ 5:12 PM ET
Buch gets 1 game for crossing checking guy intentionally in face. But Ghosts gets 2.
- arichardson22

moral of the story is cross check a guy in the face
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 6 @ 5:17 PM ET
Foerrster’s play is really standing out. He’s not just a sniper. Kid can pass sprung a great stretch pass to York last night and they connected on a different goal too. If the kid is standing out in Lehigh how do you let him go back to junior next year?
flyav
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.15.2008

May 6 @ 5:21 PM ET
moral of the story is cross check a guy in the face
- 2Real


Moral of the story is don’t wear the orange and black if you want the league to not drop the hammer on you.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
They are going to rotate around personnel, per AV. But that was a pairing today and they will likely start the game together their first shift or two.
- bmeltzer


Ooh! Something to tune in for!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 5:32 PM ET
How many games? ...where the wheel lands is anyone’s guess.

No one wants to hear this, but I wondered if Friedman embellished a bit. With no history of supplemental discipline, Ghost’s punishment is strange. It was after the whistle so maybe that is why it was more than a penalty and warning. 2 games though.

- NC Flyers Fan



I didn't. It was a hit well after an empty net goal. No way he'd have expected that kind of hit. I was expecting one game but I'm not bothered by two.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 6 @ 5:51 PM ET
I didn't. It was a hit well after an empty net goal. No way he'd have expected that kind of hit. I was expecting one game but I'm not bothered by two.
- Scoob

The Ghost suspension was fine. Not tossing Thug Wilson for at least 10 is where DOPs and the NHL poop the bed.

Mickey Mouse league
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
I didn't. It was a hit well after an empty net goal. No way he'd have expected that kind of hit. I was expecting one game but I'm not bothered by two.
- Scoob


It has gotten so comical that I just can’t offer any support to their decisions. The DoPS has made me a skeptic.

When time and again they make baffling no suspension decisions on dangerous plays, then bring the hammer down soft on a play that caused injury to the head or missed games, yet come down hard on first offenders with no injury on the play (only from certain teams perhaps), I just think they turned themselves into a joke.

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 6 @ 6:06 PM ET
Ooh! Something to tune in for!
- PT21


Why do I sense sarcasm? Sigh

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 6 @ 6:08 PM ET
Kadri was traded for Barrie and Kerfoot... Barrie coming off consecutive near 60-pt seasons and Kerfoot consecutive 40-pt seasons. What kind of package with Ghost would have beat that?
- Tomahawk

What did we give up to get Matt Niskanen or Justin Braun? I know the answer but the point is, we made moves and we had pieces to move. Ghost was a year removed from a 65 point season at that time. Two years later and we’re still unhappy with our roster.
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

May 6 @ 6:20 PM ET
The Ghost suspension was fine. Not tossing Thug Wilson for at least 10 is where DOPs and the NHL poop the bed.

Mickey Mouse league

- BiggE



Yes. If I'm a teammate of Ghosts, I look at that as gutless bull. You don't like a guy? Fine, he squared up multiple times with everyone that came at him, and it seemed settled. To pop a guy after an empty net goal like that? Cowardly stuff, and something that if I was a COACH would sour me on a guy pretty quick. Deserved both games.

The Wilson thing is a miscarriage of justice at this point, and good on the Rangers last night, they did what they had to do, what the league would not. You think the suits loved seeing line brawls last night on a nationally televised game? That was an embarrassment, and it was all their fault.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 6 @ 6:28 PM ET
Yes. If I'm a teammate of Ghosts, I look at that as gutless bull. You don't like a guy? Fine, he squared up multiple times with everyone that came at him, and it seemed settled. To pop a guy after an empty net goal like that? Cowardly stuff, and something that if I was a COACH would sour me on a guy pretty quick. Deserved both games.

The Wilson thing is a miscarriage of justice at this point, and good on the Rangers last night, they did what they had to do, what the league would not. You think the suits loved seeing line brawls last night on a nationally televised game? That was an embarrassment, and it was all their fault.

- FloHaake

Who cares what the suits wants. Leopards don’t change their spots and the suits are trying to change a game they was built some stuff. Has times changed? Absolutely. But deep down within the heart of hockey, fans were entertained by that last night. I promise you, guys who feel the way I do aren’t just on these message boards, they’re in the dressing room and on the ice too. They’re still prideful men.
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

May 6 @ 6:39 PM ET
Who cares what the suits wants. Leopards don’t change their spots and the suits are trying to change a game they was built some stuff. Has times changed? Absolutely. But deep down within the heart of hockey, fans were entertained by that last night. I promise you, guys who feel the way I do aren’t just on these message boards, they’re in the dressing room and on the ice too. They’re still prideful men.
- SuperSchennBros


Yes, rereading what I wrote, I can see how you might think I didn't fully enjoy the fun last night. But the point still stands, it didn't have to happen that way, and the NHL has spent now two decades trying to shed that "wrestling" type reputation in it's sport, but because of their failure, it was on full display last night.

Again, good on the Rangers. Wouldn't have minded seeing Wilson get more than what he got.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 6 @ 6:45 PM ET
Yes, rereading what I wrote, I can see how you might think I didn't fully enjoy the fun last night. But the point still stands, it didn't have to happen that way, and the NHL has spent now two decades trying to shed that "wrestling" type reputation in it's sport, but because of their failure, it was on full display last night.

Again, good on the Rangers. Wouldn't have minded seeing Wilson get more than what he got.

- FloHaake

No I understand what you’re saying and I agree completely. I don’t want things to get rough for any team but if things find themselves reaching this point for my team, I want my team to be the stronger team. Good for Farabee for challenging Friedman.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 6 @ 6:50 PM ET
I know I'm an idiot, most of you hate my opinions. Blah, blah, blah, Yada, yada, yada.

In my opinion of Ghost, we've hung on to him for two years too long. Even when he was putting up elite offensive numbers from the blue line, most of us knew he wasn't good defensively. Most of us knew that once Provorov, Sanheim and Myers came in, he was gonna come less Necessary. This isn't hindsight. At this point, it doesn't matter what he does, he'll never live up to his rookie season or his career high of 65 points. Since the career season, he's only gotten older, become more injury prone and more exposed defensively. The only thing that might make him appealing in an offseason move is his deal is fair. I'm at a point where trading him doesn't even matter anymore, so if Seattle takes him, they take him.

As for maybe trading Ghost two seasons ago to the Maple Leafs that probably would have listened to all offers for Kadri to improve their starving defense, it's obviously not healthy to dwell on the passed. As much as I don't care for Hayes, he's here. Mark my words though, for all who can't wait to remove Voracek from the books, I can only imagine how you're gonna feel about Hayes two seasons down the road. Flaws and all, at least Voracek is still productive. At least Voracek is a "go to guy". I don't even know what to call Hayes right now.
HockeyLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 04.23.2015

May 6 @ 6:55 PM ET
It’s always interesting to see that hockey only gets front page coverage from the major sites, which I refuse to mention their names, when what they consider is negative stuff that” harms the game”. Hypocrites!! You know what, I love fighting in the game and I’m not ashamed to say it. Those so called “sports aficionados “ won’t cover the game regardless so I as a fan may as well enjoy the parts of the game that I grew up with. It was great to see players taking matters into their own hands. All the fights were good old fashioned slobber knockers! Loved it!
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 6 @ 7:07 PM ET
Foerrster’s play is really standing out. He’s not just a sniper. Kid can pass sprung a great stretch pass to York last night and they connected on a different goal too. If the kid is standing out in Lehigh how do you let him go back to junior next year?
- Just5


He is really looking like a great pick. Obviously no one thought him and Wisdom would be with the Phantoms, and when they got there I don’t think anyone expected them to make this level of impact at their current age. But they both sure have impressed. I wonder if both could battle for a spot next year. May have a few friendly competitions in camp!
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

May 6 @ 7:12 PM ET
I don’t see ghost as someone that moves the needle, if he’s on the team fine but if he’s off that’s fine too. He’s not the offensive catalyst he used to be. I appreciate that he moves the puck up ice but he also finds himself doing one to many spins and cutbacks, turnovers happen, and he’s not great defensively . Let’s not pretend the PP was good this year.
- ClaudeFather


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