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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 5 @ 10:13 AM ET
I hadn't heard that. If so I guess he wont be back.
- MBFlyerfan


Just checked Twitter. He returned 2 days ago from injury 😀
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 5 @ 10:16 AM ET
Paying the price does not involve Wilson grabbing a guy by the hair and then slamming him to the ice well after the whistle, causing an injury. If Wilson wanted retribution on Panarin, they should’ve dropped the gloves...end of story.
- Sublime55



This.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 5 @ 10:18 AM ET
I could see Wilson getting a game or two for punching a prone and defenseless Buchnevich who was face down on the ice. I have zero issue with him rag dolling Panarin. Panarin jumped on his back and paid the price. Next time, he will stay out of the way.
- PLindbergh31


The beginning of the incident, with Wilson’s stick under the prone and defenseless Buchnevich, Wilson pushes his head down and lifts on the stick and punches him. That is all after the whistle blows multiple times. That part should be supension-worthy.

As to the scrum that followed, it was all caused by Wilson. The part folks seem to leave out is that Strome jumps on Wilson to get him off the defenseless Buchnevich. Then Strome is thrown to the ice. While he is down prone, Wilson punches him. This is why Panarin jumps Wilson—to defend the now defenseless Strome.

The whole after-show was really bad sportsmanship by Wilson as well.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 5 @ 10:23 AM ET
Paying the price does not involve Wilson grabbing a guy by the hair and then slamming him to the ice well after the whistle, causing an injury. If Wilson wanted retribution on Panarin, they should’ve dropped the gloves...end of story.
- Sublime55


Didn’t the Flyers have an accidental hair-pulling incident that resulted in a fine earlier this season? Where was Wilson’s fine for that part of incident?

mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
Absolute Joke Ghost gets a hearing.

As for the Friedman hate, I have speculated an idea. And this occurred to my after Ghost gave him the cheap shot. Ghost and Friedman are both offensive minded dmen and Ghost has been in and out of the lineup for years. Me thinks Friedman expressed to coaching and/or management that he felt he was better than Ghost, rather than playing his way up through the line up. He thought he was better than he was and the team sided with Ghost and said (frank) this guy trying to steal a spot rather than work for it. Again, all speculation.

- arichardson22


Friedman did something that crossed a line. Not sure what but everyone on the Flyers hates that dude.


NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
I agree with Paul Stewart -- the problem isn't Parros. It's Colin Campbell, with whom the buck ultimately stops for everything from Rule Book changes and wording to executive power over the officiating department (Officiating director Walkom reports directly to Campbell) to executive power over DOPS (Parros also reports directly to Campbell). If officiating oversight has been subpar for years and if DOPS is weak and inconsistent and the replay system in Toronto has too many plays that fall through the cracks, at what point does it fall on the guy they all report to?
- bmeltzer


The DoPS is a complete joke with no one ever knowing where the inconsistent wheel of justice might land next. The officiating has slowly deteriorated. It only makes sense to look up.

DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

May 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
The DoPS is a complete joke with no one ever knowing where the inconsistent wheel of justice might land next. The officiating has slowly deteriorated. It only makes sense to look up.

- NC Flyers Fan

Yup. It's an NHL problem.

Unless they want more of these borderline incidents to multiply, you do a precedent now. If you need to do an opinion including his prior bad acts, so be it.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 5 @ 10:38 AM ET
In their defense I am sure they were tired from playing the night before
- corduroy


lol!

Not going to get a funnier post today, folks.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 5 @ 10:38 AM ET
Friedman did something that crossed a line. Not sure what but everyone on the Flyers hates that dude.
- mickel25


It will be interesting to see if it ever comes out. Most of the time teams and players are pretty tight lipped about stuff like that and rightfully so.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 5 @ 10:39 AM ET
I paid for Center Ice.
I did not even record the last two games.
It's less painful than even racing through a recording at multiple playback speeds.
Love unrequited leads to hate.
I hate this season.

- Pompous


They have your money. They don't care if you watch.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 5 @ 10:42 AM ET
Friedman did something that crossed a line. Not sure what but everyone on the Flyers hates that dude.
- mickel25


Can’t say I’ve played hockey, but I’ve played other sports. Trying to think of one the unforgivable actions or as you said, something that crossed a line. I think it’s Safe to say he didn’t bang anyone’s wife as he was an AHLer. Unless it was on the phantoms lol.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 5 @ 10:50 AM ET
Yup. It's an NHL problem.

Unless they want more of these borderline incidents to multiply, you do a precedent now. If you need to do an opinion including his prior bad acts, so be it.

- DrMidnite


Wilson has a history. Using your stick under a defenseless player’s head or neck as a lever is suspension-worthy. On top of that if there was one guy who it would make sense to nickel and dime for each additional individual infraction, it would be Wilson. It also adds to the confusion that Wilson escapes punishment time and again with his history when others are fined or suspended for less forceful similar looking actions on the first infraction. What does that mean? Should that make sense to anyone? It certainly doesn’t make me think that the value is the safety of the players.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 5 @ 10:52 AM ET
Just wait. Ghost will have the book thrown at him after the Wilson botch job. Oh well.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

May 5 @ 10:54 AM ET
Wilson has a history. Using your stick under a defenseless player’s head or neck as a lever is suspension-worthy. On top of that if there was one guy who it would make sense to nickel and dime for each additional individual infraction, it would be Wilson. It also adds to the confusion that Wilson escapes punishment time and again with his history when others are fined or suspended for less forceful similar looking actions on the first infraction. What does that mean? Should that make sense to anyone? It certainly doesn’t make me think that the value is the safety of the players.
- NC Flyers Fan


You are correct.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

May 5 @ 11:04 AM ET
Watching the replay of the Ghost hit at full speed, I thought "thats not THAT bad".

And then I thought of my total inability to interpret how DOPS thinks.. so Ghost is probably going to get tossed out of the league for this.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 5 @ 11:04 AM ET
The beginning of the incident, with Wilson’s stick under the prone and defenseless Buchnevich, Wilson pushes his head down and lifts on the stick and punches him. That is all after the whistle blows multiple times. That part should be supension-worthy.

As to the scrum that followed, it was all caused by Wilson. The part folks seem to leave out is that Strome jumps on Wilson to get him off the defenseless Buchnevich. Then Strome is thrown to the ice. While he is down prone, Wilson punches him. This is why Panarin jumps Wilson—to defend the now defenseless Strome.

The whole after-show was really bad sportsmanship by Wilson as well.

- NC Flyers Fan


So basically Wilson is manhandling half the Rags team. They get to take matters in their own hands in about 8 hours. Lets see what they do.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

May 5 @ 11:06 AM ET
So basically Wilson is manhandling half the Rags team. They get to take matters in their own hands in about 8 hours. Lets see what they do.
- PLindbergh31


My guess is the refs call it tight out of the gate and nothing happens. But I'm definitely tuning in.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

May 5 @ 11:08 AM ET
I agree with Paul Stewart -- the problem isn't Parros. It's Colin Campbell, with whom the buck ultimately stops for everything from Rule Book changes and wording to executive power over the officiating department (Officiating director Walkom reports directly to Campbell) to executive power over DOPS (Parros also reports directly to Campbell). If officiating oversight has been subpar for years and if DOPS is weak and inconsistent and the replay system in Toronto has too many plays that fall through the cracks, at what point does it fall on the guy they all report to?
- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill...appreciate your thoughts and you taking the time to answer.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 5 @ 11:10 AM ET
My guess is the refs call it tight out of the gate and nothing happens. But I'm definitely tuning in.
- Ftown19125


If they do nothing they are soft as baby poop.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 5 @ 11:10 AM ET
Watching the replay of the Ghost hit at full speed, I thought "thats not THAT bad".

And then I thought of my total inability to interpret how DOPS thinks.. so Ghost is probably going to get tossed out of the league for this.

- Doc_Sarcasm


It’s not you, the wheel just spins and where it lands nobody knows.

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
how many games this season giving up 5+ goals?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 5 @ 11:14 AM ET
So basically Wilson is manhandling half the Rags team. They get to take matters in their own hands in about 8 hours. Lets see what they do.
- PLindbergh31


IDK, we’ll see. All I know is I want Morin in the Flyers lineup anytime the Caps have Wilson.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 5 @ 11:16 AM ET
how many games this season giving up 5+ goals?
- corduroy


17 out of 53 games they have allowed 5+ goals.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 5 @ 11:18 AM ET
IDK, we’ll see. All I know is I want Morin in the Flyers lineup anytime the Caps have Wilson.
- NC Flyers Fan


why? Morin's presence won't prevent Wilson from doing whatever he wants. Morin will run around and try and fight him and take a penalty.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 5 @ 11:25 AM ET
why? Morin's presence won't prevent Wilson from doing whatever he wants. Morin will run around and try and fight him and take a penalty.
- PLindbergh31


No, to show what Wilson is really made of...if Wilson steps over the line, let’s see Morin settle up with Wilson the old fashioned way in a “gentleman’s fight”...no chasing...although maybe we see Wilson running.... Chickens run when meet on level ground.

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