With the inconsistent calls in games by the officials. With inconsistencies within Repercussions handed down by the league. With a schedule that has teams seeing each other two, three, sometimes four games in a row. The league is begging players to fight. The league is begging for players to police themselves. While we might love a Tom Wilson or Brad Marchand on our team, these guys are going to build heat, which will create revenge in a second or third meeting in a row.

Fighting and physical play isn’t dead and you’d be a fool to believe otherwise. Some of you don’t want Morin back, well the Flyers better find a suitable replacement to play in this division. They’ll always be a Tom Wilson or Brad Marchand in the league.
- SuperSchennBros

Morin is not going to deter Brad Marchand, neither are they going to fight. There have been plenty of tough guys on other teams and Marchand still does what he does.

Morin is not going to deter Brad Marchand, neither are they going to fight. There have been plenty of tough guys on other teams and Marchand still does what he does.
- ClaudeFather

I never understood the concept of two goons going out and fighting each other after another player did something.

I am a firm proponent of the strategy that if another teams agitator is going out and targeting your stars, you don't go after the agitator, you go after their stars. And you make sure they know why. That is the way it used to be done.

Last night at the Rangers game Wilson would have been the only guy I didn't go after. I would have been all over Backstrom and Carlson and Oshie all night long, every time they stepped on the ice they would be getting an elbow or a stick or a knee. Smashed against the glass at every opportunity even if it was unnecessary.

I never understood the concept of two goons going out and fighting each other after another player did something.

I am a firm proponent of the strategy that if another teams agitator is going out and targeting your stars, you don't go after the agitator, you go after their stars. And you make sure they know why. That is the way it used to be done.

Last night at the Rangers game Wilson would have been the only guy I didn't go after. I would have been all over Backstrom and Carlson and Oshie all night long, every time they stepped on the ice they would be getting an elbow or a stick or a knee. Smashed against the glass at every opportunity even if it was unnecessary.
- MBFlyerfan

Yea I agree, someone wants to act like an idiot, make it a point to go out of your way and check/slash their star players

Morin is not going to deter Brad Marchand, neither are they going to fight. There have been plenty of tough guys on other teams and Marchand still does what he does.
- ClaudeFather

Exactly. Marchand plays a different game then Wilson. Marchand barely fights....he’s far to valuable on the ice and isn’t very big. I will say this, I really liked the Ranger response as a team. Great on them to respond. I will also suggest the Rangers owner didn’t agree with his GM and president on the direction of the team as far as skill versus physical makeup and that’s probably the prime reason they are gone. Mark Messier , a new consultant for Drury, alluded to it last night suggesting they aren’t tough enough.
But as a team they handled it the right way. If your team is going to be loaded with skill guys then your probably going to have a few more physical guys in your lineup. You have to know the Rangers will address this in the off season.

What a joke Parros is. 2 games for ghost but nothing for Wilson. Total bs. Can’t wait to see what happens with Buchnevich how will he justify suspending him after not suspending Wilson. He needs to go. What a jerkoff

I never understood the concept of two goons going out and fighting each other after another player did something.

I am a firm proponent of the strategy that if another teams agitator is going out and targeting your stars, you don't go after the agitator, you go after their stars. And you make sure they know why. That is the way it used to be done.

Last night at the Rangers game Wilson would have been the only guy I didn't go after. I would have been all over Backstrom and Carlson and Oshie all night long, every time they stepped on the ice they would be getting an elbow or a stick or a knee. Smashed against the glass at every opportunity even if it was unnecessary.
- MBFlyerfan

The game has changed so much....toughness and intimidation used to be big, big parts of the game....think the 1970’s Philadelphia Flyers. The Goon vs Goon really were the remnants of tougher era’s. Now those types of guys have pretty much dried up as hockey has become more main stream. Eventually the game will eliminate fighting. That and hitting are already down and less violent. What you could do in 2002 you can’t do today.

With the inconsistent calls in games by the officials. With inconsistencies within Repercussions handed down by the league. With a schedule that has teams seeing each other two, three, sometimes four games in a row. The league is begging players to fight. The league is begging for players to police themselves. While we might love a Tom Wilson or Brad Marchand on our team, these guys are going to build heat, which will create revenge in a second or third meeting in a row.

Fighting and physical play isn’t dead and you’d be a fool to believe otherwise. Some of you don’t want Morin back, well the Flyers better find a suitable replacement to play in this division. They’ll always be a Tom Wilson or Brad Marchand in the league.
- SuperSchennBros

I don’t believe Morin should be center of the division of opinion on fighting and enforcing. To me, he brings so much more to the table as a 3rd pairing defenseman and PK specialist. I wish that the Flyers would develop him there at the NHL level. The PK is so bad, and I can’t understand not giving him every opportunity to show how he can help the team there. As for his physical play, as long as he keeps it simple and the refs are keeping it real, he has been a big positive. He is not slow or running around taking unnecessary penalties. That is an old tired narrative. The one time he tried to fight and dropped his gloves early, he can learn from that. He, IMO, should be present, aware and just let that part of the game come to him. If someone drops their gloves and wants to go, alright, Sam fights them. (I know, who wants to fight big Sam? )

Exactly. Marchand plays a different game then Wilson. Marchand barely fights....he’s far to valuable on the ice and isn’t very big. I will say this, I really liked the Ranger response as a team. Great on them to respond. I will also suggest the Rangers owner didn’t agree with his GM and president on the direction of the team as far as skill versus physical makeup and that’s probably the prime reason they are gone. Mark Messier , a new consultant for Drury, alluded to it last night suggesting they aren’t tough enough.
But as a team they handled it the right way. If your team is going to be loaded with skill guys then your probably going to have a few more physical guys in your lineup. You have to know the Rangers will address this in the off season.
- landros 2

Yup, he’s going to do whatever he does regardless of who’s out there. Good for the Rangers.

I don’t believe Morin should be center of the division of opinion on fighting and enforcing. To me, he brings so much more to the table as a 3rd pairing defenseman and PK specialist. I wish that the Flyers would develop him there at the NHL level. The PK is so bad, and I can’t understand not giving him every opportunity to show how he can help the team there. As for his physical play, as long as he keeps it simple and the refs are keeping it real, he has been a big positive. He is not slow or running around taking unnecessary penalties. That is an old tired narrative. The one time he tried to fight and dropped his gloves early, he can learn from that. He, IMO, should be present, aware and just let that part of the game come to him. If someone drops their gloves and wants to go, alright, Sam fights them. (I know, who wants to fight big Sam? )
- NC Flyers Fan

The thing is he really brings nothing more than being able to fight, if you are on the PK you need to read plays well, being big means nothing. If anything he’d probably end up screening our own goalie. He’s lost a ton of development time and it’s probably the end of the road for him with the big club.

The thing is he really brings nothing more than being able to fight, if you are on the PK you need to read plays well, being big means nothing. If anything he’d probably end up screening our own goalie. He’s lost a ton of development time and it’s probably the end of the road for him with the big club.
- ClaudeFather

Agree. I don't think he's been completely awful in games I've seen, but he's probably a 7th defenseman in my opinion. I don't think he's an every day player.

The thing is he really brings nothing more than being able to fight, if you are on the PK you need to read plays well, being big means nothing. If anything he’d probably end up screening our own goalie. He’s lost a ton of development time and it’s probably the end of the road for him with the big club.
- ClaudeFather

I disagree. Morin can read plays well and his size helps keep bigger players from gaining position at the net front. His strength can win battles and his reach is amazing. It is interesting how good he looks at the AHL in that role under Gordon, but really hasn’t had much PK time in the NHL. Losing time was unfortunate, but he can still be developed.

With Ghost suspended does Morin get back in the lineup?If So, What are the chances he goes with Wilson? I would love to see Morin deck him.

With Ghost suspended does Morin get back in the lineup?If So, What are the chances he goes with Wilson? I would love to see Morin deck him.
- Briere

I could have sworn I saw they took Wilson out of last night's game because he got hurt.

I never understood the concept of two goons going out and fighting each other after another player did something.

I am a firm proponent of the strategy that if another teams agitator is going out and targeting your stars, you don't go after the agitator, you go after their stars. And you make sure they know why. That is the way it used to be done.

Last night at the Rangers game Wilson would have been the only guy I didn't go after. I would have been all over Backstrom and Carlson and Oshie all night long, every time they stepped on the ice they would be getting an elbow or a stick or a knee. Smashed against the glass at every opportunity even if it was unnecessary.
- MBFlyerfan

That's really the best way to deal with it.

Exactly. Marchand plays a different game then Wilson. Marchand barely fights....he’s far to valuable on the ice and isn’t very big. I will say this, I really liked the Ranger response as a team. Great on them to respond. I will also suggest the Rangers owner didn’t agree with his GM and president on the direction of the team as far as skill versus physical makeup and that’s probably the prime reason they are gone. Mark Messier , a new consultant for Drury, alluded to it last night suggesting they aren’t tough enough.
But as a team they handled it the right way. If your team is going to be loaded with skill guys then your probably going to have a few more physical guys in your lineup. You have to know the Rangers will address this in the off season.
- landros 2

“Marchand barely fights...”. That’s the reason he does what he does and the reason why I hate him. If you’re going to play with an edge, you need to back it up. If these other teams would just suck it up, take a penalty for instigator, just grab him and start punching (only if he pulls some bs). The players need to start policing themselves again. That’s what the rangers did that to Wilson last night. The difference is that Wilson will fight back.

I never understood the concept of two goons going out and fighting each other after another player did something.

I am a firm proponent of the strategy that if another teams agitator is going out and targeting your stars, you don't go after the agitator, you go after their stars. And you make sure they know why. That is the way it used to be done.

Last night at the Rangers game Wilson would have been the only guy I didn't go after. I would have been all over Backstrom and Carlson and Oshie all night long, every time they stepped on the ice they would be getting an elbow or a stick or a knee. Smashed against the glass at every opportunity even if it was unnecessary.
- MBFlyerfan

First, you send your goon (which are fewer and few these days) to fight the agitator not the other teams goon. Often the agitator is not the goon. Agitator often don’t fight (Marchand). If that doesn’t work... then play hard and finish checks on their stars.

Morin is not going to deter Brad Marchand, neither are they going to fight. There have been plenty of tough guys on other teams and Marchand still does what he does.
- ClaudeFather

What about Wilson? I used two examples of two types of players that you need an answer for. One goon. The other an Agitator. Both dirty. You need a response to both. There are 12 players on a roster. Know your weight class. At no point did I say Morin should fight Brad Marchand.

Or let’s not normalize charging headshots lol
- hereticpride

the NHL normalized cheap play by only fining wilson