He actually got Eakin to score a goal last night. Maybe Skinner isn't completely out of magic yet.
- kingcong39

From everything i understand, Skinner is well worth 9 million and should probably be making more than McDavid.

From everything i understand, Skinner is well worth 9 million and should probably be making more than McDavid.
- ImThatGuy

Thought that was Laine?

CapFriendly shows just under $31M cap space with the following player decisions to be made:

RFA - Dahlin, Jokiharju, Borgen, Reinhart, Asplund, Mittelstadt
UFA - Ullmark, McCabe, Rieder, Caggiula, Sheahan, Irwin, Hutton, Houser
- kingcong39

Following up on this, I'll group the UFA's in terms of simply NO or YES below.

NO: Irwin, Hutton, Houser
YES: Ullmark, McCabe

Maybe one of the following: Caggiula, Sheahan, Rieder

He also has the same amount of primary EV pointszzssss as Mittelstadt, one more than Cozens and the same as Olofsson

No one should really care that he doesn’t get a bunch of secondary PP assists
- sbroads24

I do care that we are paying a $5M player $9M

Okposo logically shouldn't be bought out until 22. If they bought him out this summer, it would be a service to the player instead of the team. To save the most cap, it makes more sense to send him to Rochester. But I don't see them doing that to him. Plus you reduce the amount of years he's on the cap from 4 to 2.

Skinner probably doesn't face a BO until 23. You can get past his 8.9M cap hit if you do it in 23 instead of 22. Then, most years you're saving over 6M.

Jeff had Jason over a barrel, and he paid him way too much even given his entire playing history, but credit to Jason, he made his contract pretty easy to buy out after 4 years.

Thought that was Laine?
- sbroads24

the 4th laine

I do care that we are paying a $5M player $9M
- Pegullaville

where is the line drawn

5 mil player gets 9
2 mil dollar player gets 6
1 mil dollar player gets 2.2 or 2.25

Okposo logically shouldn't be bought out until 22. If they bought him out this summer, it would be a service to the player instead of the team. To save the most cap, it makes more sense to send him to Rochester. But I don't see them doing that to him. Plus you reduce the amount of years he's on the cap from 4 to 2.

Skinner probably doesn't face a BO until 23. You can get past his 8.9M cap hit if you do it in 23 instead of 22. Then, most years you're saving over 6M.

Jeff had Jason over a barrel, and he paid him way too much even given his entire playing history, but credit to Jason, he made his contract pretty easy to buy out after 4 years.
- TheSabresTaco

To add to what Taco said, details below.

https://www.capfriendly.c...t-calculator/jeff-skinner

I do care that we are paying a $5M player $9M
- Pegullaville

I wouldn't Pay Skinner 5 Mil currently.

He hasn't been even a 30 point player for 2.5 years.

But points don't matter.

You win the cup now by how many penalties you draw.

I wouldn't Pay Skinner 5 Mil currently.

He hasn't been even a 30 point player for 2.5 years.

But points don't matter.

You win the cup now by how many penalties you draw.
- ImThatGuy

If Skinner scored more points we’d win the cup.

Brilliant analysis

I wouldn't Pay Skinner 5 Mil currently.

He hasn't been even a 30 point player for 2.5 years.

But points don't matter.

You win the cup now by how many penalties you draw.
- ImThatGuy

Skinner would be easy to move, too. Just give them our next 6 first rounders

where is the line drawn

5 mil player gets 9
2 mil dollar player gets 6
1 mil dollar player gets 2.2 or 2.25
- homiedclown

All of the above hurt the team.

However you rank the contracts from worst to least it’s definitely.

Skinner
Okposo
Girgensons

All of the above hurt the team.

However you rank the contracts from worst to least it’s definitely.

Skinner
Okposo
Girgensons
- Pegullaville

This.

How about that Houser kid, he's on fire. And Bjork had himself a great game.

If Skinner scored more points we’d win the cup.

Brilliant analysis
- sbroads24

If Skinner scored more points, we are a better team, no?

How about that Houser kid, he's on fire. And Bjork had himself a great game.
- Buff36

I like Bjork's tenacity and speed.

Does he have the hands? Last night he did.

Okposo logically shouldn't be bought out until 22. If they bought him out this summer, it would be a service to the player instead of the team. To save the most cap, it makes more sense to send him to Rochester. But I don't see them doing that to him. Plus you reduce the amount of years he's on the cap from 4 to 2.

Skinner probably doesn't face a BO until 23. You can get past his 8.9M cap hit if you do it in 23 instead of 22. Then, most years you're saving over 6M.

Jeff had Jason over a barrel, and he paid him way too much even given his entire playing history, but credit to Jason, he made his contract pretty easy to buy out after 4 years.
- TheSabresTaco

Does retaining half of Okposo's salary make him movable for a pair of 5ths?

I think I would do that. We really need to move on from that guy

I like Bjork's tenacity and speed.

Does he have the hands? Last night he did.
- Powerslave

Like the non stop motor. Need more of it.

If Skinner scored more points, we are a better team, no?
- ImThatGuy

Maybe. Depends on the “points”

Yeah, we’d maybe have 1-2 more wins if he actually scored his average amount of goals.

He needs to score more goals

I don’t care how many assists or PP points he has. Ever. It’s not his game

Does retaining half of Okposo's salary make him movable for a pair of 5ths?

I think I would do that. We really need to move on from that guy
- jcragcrumple

Maybe. You need to weigh the options vs necessity vs cost. I don't want to make a big post about it, but there's maybe 3 or 4 ways to go about it. And getting off scott free isn't one of them.

The House is on fire!
- Powerslave

David Clarkson
Nathan Horton
Marc Staal
Patrick Marleau
Nikita Zaitsev
Marian Hossa
Marian Gaborik

Useless contracts are traded all the damn time and not always for first round picks.

It’s an excuse
- sbroads24

brody is right...they really need to pull it off with okposo, and there's no reason they shouldn't be able to...

okposo has a $2M bonus coming up and will be owed only $6M for the final two years of his deal with a cap-hit of $6M...a 15-team no-trade list means there are 16 teams that are not on it...find one...it has to be done...

either that or convince him to got to ltir

Maybe. You need to weigh the options vs necessity vs cost. I don't want to make a big post about it, but there's maybe 3 or 4 ways to go about it. And getting off scott free isn't one of them.
- TheSabresTaco

I just think it's time to turn the page on him. The Pegulas seemingly love him though so he'll most likely be back next fall. There's zero chance they waive him. I don't see that as a realistic possibility. And his actual cash owed is below his AAV so I don't see them buying him out. That basically just leaves a trade and he holds half of the cards with his m-ntc.

I would certainly part with mid-rounders and retain celery to turn the page

I just think it's time to turn the page on him. The Pegulas seemingly love him though so he'll most likely be back next fall. There's zero chance they waive him. I don't see that as a realistic possibility. And his actual cash owed is below his AAV so I don't see them buying him out. That basically just leaves a trade and he holds half of the cards with his m-ntc.

I would certainly part with mid-rounders and retain celery to turn the page
- jcragcrumple

a third-rounder this year, at most, should get it done

a third-rounder this year, at most, should get it done
- Michael Pachla

Staal 3rd plus half retained to Seattle. I'll fax over the paperwork