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wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 1:32 PM ET
so the most exciting part of the season was the first game and trade deadline day, oooffff
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 15 @ 1:52 PM ET
Allison making his debut!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
Allison making his debut!
- arichardson22


Let’s go Waa-ade! Bring some energy up with you!

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
Coots, G, JVR, Braun are all respected but more lead by example. When they do talk, people listen. Dunno if they follow, but they listen, lol.

Jake and Laughts are supposedly the vocal ones now. Simmer was supposedly super vocal in the room, calling people out, threatening violence, etc. They could probably use another guy like that in the mix.

- Tomahawk




For real?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 15 @ 2:29 PM ET
My brother is a respiratory therapist and he's seen people from all ages groups, that had COVID who have suffered and still suffer from significant lung damage. I'm sure athletes can withstand it a bit better than those who aren't in optimal physical condition, but that has to be rough!
- aantny88


I wish the issue of long term effects received a little more attention in the media. When people see the <1% death rate, they seem to believe that for the other 99%, it's like the flu. A few days and then no further effects. If a top notch athlete in the peak of his life needs to use an inhaler, that speaks for itself.

And who it affects is so random. I have relatives where an entire family of two guys (in 30s), their parents (mid to late 60) and grandparent (95) all tested +. The person who suffered the least was the 95. Granma did not even break a fever. All recovered except the mom, who is 65. Six months later, she still cannot return to full time work.

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 15 @ 2:33 PM ET
just seemed like a non sequitur.
- Dkos


Dale Weise has won in life, that's why.

What does your nom de plume mean? It reminds me of Trigonometry.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Apr 15 @ 2:47 PM ET
I was honestly trying to get out of watching tonight but with Allison in the line-up I'll be watching. I'm hoping he brings a spark. Looking forward to seeing him.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 15 @ 2:52 PM ET
I wish the issue of long term effects received a little more attention in the media. When people see the <1% death rate, they seem to believe that for the other 99%, it's like the flu. A few days and then no further effects. If a top notch athlete in the peak of his life needs to use an inhaler, that speaks for itself.

And who it affects is so random. I have relatives where an entire family of two guys (in 30s), their parents (mid to late 60) and grandparent (95) all tested +. The person who suffered the least was the 95. Granma did not even break a fever. All recovered except the mom, who is 65. Six months later, she still cannot return to full time work.

- PT21


Not that I don't feel for those folks, because I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but isn't the % of long haulers pretty low, too?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 15 @ 2:54 PM ET
Allison making his debut!
- arichardson22


Who will be kickin' popcorn to the beat?
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 15 @ 2:58 PM ET
Allison making his debut!
- arichardson22

Love it.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 15 @ 2:59 PM ET
Strange to see Jeff Carter in a Penguins jersey. 🤮🤧
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 15 @ 3:00 PM ET
Patrick has sucked. It doesn't matter why. There was no time since entering into the NHL where he hasn't. They need to trade him ASAP.
- CupOnBroadSt.


Didn’t give up yet. But next year I have expectations for him.
eabrenner
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kent, OH
Joined: 10.05.2020

Apr 15 @ 3:04 PM ET
Allison making his debut!
- arichardson22


At this point who even cares.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 15 @ 3:05 PM ET
Been excited for Allison for a few years. I am so glad he is healthy and thriving in the AHL. Really hope he plays like we know he can and earns his spot.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 15 @ 3:06 PM ET
Can we go get tuch from Vegas please
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 15 @ 3:12 PM ET
Not that I don't feel for those folks, because I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but isn't the % of long haulers pretty low, too?
- Scoob


I'm pretty wrong there. Seems a majority of folks still feel some effects three months on.


https://www.health.harvar...ong-haulers-2020101521173

How common are lingering COVID symptoms?
Tens of thousands of people in the United States have lingering illness following COVID-19. In the US, we call them post-COVID “long haulers.” Currently, the condition they are suffering from is known as “long COVID,” although other names are being proposed.

Published studies (see here and here) and surveys conducted by patient groups indicate that 50% to 80% of patients continue to have bothersome symptoms three months after the onset of COVID-19 — even after tests no longer detect virus in their body.


Which lingering symptoms are common?
The most common symptoms are fatigue, body aches, shortness of breath, difficulty concentrating, inability to exercise, headache, and difficulty sleeping. Since COVID-19 is a new disease that first appeared in December 2019, we have no information on long-term recovery rates.


Who is more likely to become a long hauler?
Currently, we can’t accurately predict who will become a long hauler. As an article in Science notes, people only mildly affected by COVID-19 still can have lingering symptoms, and people who were severely ill can be back to normal two months later.

However, continued symptoms are more likely to occur in people over age 50, people with two or three chronic illnesses, and, possibly, people who became very ill with COVID-19.


Strong case for vaccinating
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
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Apr 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
Can we go get tuch from Vegas please
- SMS4016



is the type of player they need.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
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Apr 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Been excited for Allison for a few years. I am so glad he is healthy and thriving in the AHL. Really hope he plays like we know he can and earns his spot.
- Richieattack18



agree
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 3:17 PM ET


For real?

- PT21


Yeah, think it was Jody Shelley that said that after PPs that didn't go well, G, Jake and Simmer would be fuming coming back to the bench. They'd get into it with each other and sometimes it would get so bad they'd be on the verge of fisticuffs. Shelley said it was (frank)ing hilarious to watch. But they were all buds so it was left on the ice.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 15 @ 3:23 PM ET
Can we go get tuch from Vegas please
- SMS4016



He would be a great fit. 5 years left at 4.75 so not sure why LV would want to get rid of a cost controlled solid player like that.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
Supervisor has authority though. If a young guy slacks off what can a Vet really do? They can tell them to stop slacking but they cant make them. All they can do is potentially report it to the coach. The only thing you can really put on the vets is if they are slacking themselves. Your Vets set an ecxample for the young kids so if they arent setting a good example, the kids will do as they do.

I think Giroux is the same way but cant confirm but in SJ, Thornton was always a player that showed up for optional skates. That set a good example for younger players

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Thornton's leadership went way beyond setting an example. He's supposedly the best dude ever, super thoughtful teammate.

Brendan Dillon had a couple cool stories about how good Joe was to him after he just got traded there and didn't really know anybody. Not only did he bend over backwards to include Dillon, he befriended his parents as well and brought half the team over to Dillon's parents for dinner lol.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Apr 15 @ 3:47 PM ET
Thornton's leadership went way beyond setting an example. He's supposedly the best dude ever, super thoughtful teammate.

Brendan Dillon had a couple cool stories about how good Joe was to him after he just got traded there and didn't really know anybody. Not only did he bend over backwards to include Dillon, he befriended his parents as well and brought half the team over to Dillon's parents for dinner lol.

- Tomahawk



A Mike Keenan story about when he coached a young Thornton with the Bruins: "I look at Joe Thornton, who has like 5 pounds of fat in his belly -- a gut hanging out and he's just a kid -- and I tell him, "Joe, I want you to get on the bike." He said, "For how long?" I said, "I'll come get you." Well, I went back to my office and I had a few things to tend to. I forgot all about Joe. About 90 minutes go by. A trainer knocks on the door and he says, "Joe wants to know if he can get off the bike now. He said his butt is getting sore."
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 3:50 PM ET
Strange to see Jeff Carter in a Penguins jersey. 🤮🤧
- Landsbergfan

At least it’s not LeClair in one
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 15 @ 3:57 PM ET
I'm pretty wrong there. Seems a majority of folks still feel some effects three months on.


https://www.health.harvar...ong-haulers-2020101521173

How common are lingering COVID symptoms?
Tens of thousands of people in the United States have lingering illness following COVID-19. In the US, we call them post-COVID “long haulers.” Currently, the condition they are suffering from is known as “long COVID,” although other names are being proposed.

Published studies (see here and here) and surveys conducted by patient groups indicate that 50% to 80% of patients continue to have bothersome symptoms three months after the onset of COVID-19 — even after tests no longer detect virus in their body.


- Scoob


I am surprised too to see that high a %. But my guess would have been about 20% (very high).

A couple I know in their sixties had very mild Covid. A year has gone by, and they still don't have their sense of taste or smell.

Other than the usual comorbidities, I am aware of a genetic variation that makes people more susceptible, and blood type. Type O seems to rarely get very sick; type A fares the worse.

I cannot help but see a parallel between total and partial rebuilds of hockey franchises and draconian measures versus partial lockdowns against Covid. The latter of both of the comparisons so rarely seem to work, and only defers the reckoning, and bases its allure on people who refuse to look at data.

This will get political in a jiffy, so I will get out of this sub-thread.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:01 PM ET
Thornton's leadership went way beyond setting an example. He's supposedly the best dude ever, super thoughtful teammate.

Brendan Dillon had a couple cool stories about how good Joe was to him after he just got traded there and didn't really know anybody. Not only did he bend over backwards to include Dillon, he befriended his parents as well and brought half the team over to Dillon's parents for dinner lol.

- Tomahawk


Maybe that's why Joe never took that stacked club and ever win anything.

Part of being very successful in life is being an bumhole. Its sad, but empirically very often (but not always) true.
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