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Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 8 @ 3:24 PM ET
Sean Maloughney: G42: Oilers @ Senators - Finish Them
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Apr 8 @ 3:27 PM ET
First.

The team is seems off to me as well. Despite its solid record. Despite being established in a playoff spot. Despite all these good things many Oilers fans just are not sold this team is "good" and has the tools/consistency to do damage in the playoffs.

It starts with the GM and coaching staff which do not inspire much, if any, faith.

And then captain Conner himself. He is and likely always will be a highlight reel in every game but he still struggles to be a consistent two way force. Draisaitl is much more consistent/better that way but also has enough off days that when those two get focused on with clutch and grab in the playoffs... they are just not going to be enough.

The rest of the team shows up just enough to win more than they lose but...

RNH has been... not good 5v5. I expect him to be a no show in the playoffs.

Beat and Jones and Larsson and Russell and Barrie and yes even Nurse... All of them struggle with consistency defensively and only Nurse and Barrie are out scoring their problems.

It's a team that when it is playing very well almost doesn't seem to get rewarded as it should and when they are not McDrai just manages to eek out a win anyways.

Besides the obvious it's easier to pin point things that need improving on the team rather than what's going well.

I don't nessasaraly buy that the North is an easier division... But, the 3 teams not making the playoffs have been train wrecks. Massive train wrecks. Beating those teams wasn't easy but also nothing like playing Toronto or Montreal. Only Winnipeg is a team I think the Oilers have an even chance of beating in the playoffs and even then... Being completely impartial I think I like Winnipeg as a team more than the Oilers on paper/eye test.
Slappywaggle
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.20.2013

Apr 8 @ 9:29 PM ET
I think one of them scores tonight.


Why not both?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 8 @ 10:59 PM ET
Oil need to clean up the bottom 6 forwards for a deep run.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Apr 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
Oil need to clean up the bottom 6 forwards for a deep run.
- LordHumungous


Well I have no (frank)ing clue why Ennis hasn't been playing. It's like they expect him to produce like a top 6, when in reality he's been great in the bottom 6.

I like Haas, albeit, that was a dumb (frank)ing tripping penalty yesterday lmao.

Ideally I'd have something like the for the bottom 6:

Ennis-Haas-???
Shore-Khaira-Archibald

I think Shore has been pretty solid this season. He has a good stick (so many times he's intercepted a puck that I thought would get by him) and can kill penalties. Perhaps moving Khaira and Archibald up with Ennis could work too.

They need someone to step up and play right wing. Kassian rn is the best fit, but he hasn't been great.

They also need a left-wing, either through trade (I'm hearing they're in on Hall, but Buffalo would have to eat some cap) or by calling Benson or Marody up.

Chaisson needs to go and I think Russell should be expendable.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Apr 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Your win lose record Is far from solid when you have 9 victories against Ottawa.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Apr 9 @ 2:32 PM ET
Your win lose record Is far from solid when you have 9 victories against Ottawa.
- Shady1962


Toronto plays down to it's opponents, which isn't good either. Especially if they play Montreal.

Montreal has beaten Edmonton three times in regulation, once in overtime; however, in the two games Mike Smith has started, the have taken 3/4 points. All three regulation loses have come when Koskinen was in net.

The only team they've really struggled against was Toronto, but again, they could have easily been 4-5, depending if the ref actually called a (frank)ing interference penalty against Marner.

Take away their 3-6 start (Aka no backup goalie with Koskinen starting) and they're 22-8-2. 3 of those loses came against Toronto in that horrific series which they played better in the next.

If you take away a big caveat, I get to do it too.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Apr 9 @ 4:04 PM ET
Holland didn't really say much of anything in his presser, lmao. One thing of note he did say was that he wouldn't trade a first unless the player has term, which means that this likely won't come to fruition, but here's my idea anyway.

I would be looking at Hall at 50% his salary.

Russell, a prospect (Savoie maybe) and a conditional first that'll be a second next year if he doesn't re-sign.

While yes, that trade looks (frank)ing terrible, you'd be remissed to the fact that Adam (frank)ing Larsson has three goals compared to the two goals of Taylor Hall.

This is not the MVP Hall, this is Buffalo Hall, where he has clearly struggled.

Giving up Russell (who's not the main piece) will even out the cap issue. Savoie will be the prospect going back along with a reasonably high draft pick.

To think Hall will get some astronomical return is ignorant, the guy is putting up terrible numbers. If they want to unload that entire cap, they'll have to send picks back.
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Apr 9 @ 4:44 PM ET
Your win lose record Is far from solid when you have 9 victories against Ottawa.
- Shady1962


No one else has done it, so GTFO.

LOL

No one is saying they are a Great Team... but classifying them as a Bad Team because of who they’ve Won against? (frank) Off

Toronto’s lost to Ottawa... more then once. What’s that say about them?

Exactly!
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 9 @ 5:50 PM ET
Holland didn't really say much of anything in his presser, lmao. One thing of note he did say was that he wouldn't trade a first unless the player has term, which means that this likely won't come to fruition, but here's my idea anyway.

I would be looking at Hall at 50% his salary.

Russell, a prospect (Savoie maybe) and a conditional first that'll be a second next year if he doesn't re-sign.

While yes, that trade looks (frank)ing terrible, you'd be remissed to the fact that Adam (frank)ing Larsson has three goals compared to the two goals of Taylor Hall.

This is not the MVP Hall, this is Buffalo Hall, where he has clearly struggled.

Giving up Russell (who's not the main piece) will even out the cap issue. Savoie will be the prospect going back along with a reasonably high draft pick.

To think Hall will get some astronomical return is ignorant, the guy is putting up terrible numbers. If they want to unload that entire cap, they'll have to send picks back.

- Oilers4Life14


Such conditions are no longer legal.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Apr 9 @ 6:45 PM ET
Such conditions are no longer legal.
- Wildschwein


Really? That's incredibly stupid. Maybe like a second and a third then in 2022. If you subtract 2 from the 3, you get a 1!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
Your win lose record Is far from solid when you have 9 victories against Ottawa.
- Shady1962

So what? It's like the whiners in the Nucks thread when the team was in 16th spot they would rather have them in 25th based off their win% lol. Now we'll never know due to the flu going through the team. All CDN teams had to play OTT 7-9 times so you really have no point to make.
grovegrizzlies
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 02.05.2010

Apr 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
Toronto plays down to it's opponents, which isn't good either. Especially if they play Montreal.

Montreal has beaten Edmonton three times in regulation, once in overtime; however, in the two games Mike Smith has started, the have taken 3/4 points. All three regulation loses have come when Koskinen was in net.

The only team they've really struggled against was Toronto, but again, they could have easily been 4-5, depending if the ref actually called a (frank)ing interference penalty against Marner.

Take away their 3-6 start (Aka no backup goalie with Koskinen starting) and they're 22-8-2. 3 of those loses came against Toronto in that horrific series which they played better in the next.

If you take away a big caveat, I get to do it too.

- Oilers4Life14



I agree with most of the comments about Edmonton not going far in the playoffs. They have a lot of work to do. Their depth is just not there in regards to level of play both on offense and Defense. Hopefully next year we'll see some progress with some of the bad contracts coming off the books.

As to this specific comment about Edmonton's games against Montreal. I'd say outside of the 3-0 win for the Oil they have been terrible against Montreal. They have no answer for Montreal's forcheck. I think our first 4 games against Toronto were pretty good. The next 3 games were tough and then a decent bounce back at the end. I'd say almost every game against Montreal we were outplayed terribly and I don't think that a goalie change would've matter. They didn't deserve to win any of the games they lost.