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Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Apr 9 @ 5:33 PM ET
OT...Do you think the Devils should go after Laine if he becomes available this trade deadline or even in the offseason? I know he wants to get paid (probably around 8+mil) but he be perfect next to the two centers we have in Nico and Hughes. The Devils will have plenty of cap space and if they are going to spend it at least spend it on top-tier talent who is still very young(22yrs old) instead of aging players like Subban. The Devils also have plenty of draft capital and prospects to make it work.
- Gambi99


Maybe Point from Tampa in offseason?

Tampa will need to shed salary, bad.

His contract is up in a year and no way tampa can keep him. Unless they convince McDonagh to retire early.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Apr 9 @ 5:43 PM ET
Maybe Point from Tampa in offseason?

Tampa will need to shed salary, bad.

His contract is up in a year and no way tampa can keep him. Unless they convince McDonagh to retire early.

- Leniwm1

McDonagh is 31, he ain't retiring any time soon lol. They will give up assets so Seattle takes one of their big contracts from them, most likely.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 9 @ 6:57 PM ET
Sorry Marty's better 88 no Erica tonight, covid protocol
devfan30
New Jersey Devils
Location: totowa, NJ
Joined: 12.18.2007

Apr 9 @ 7:11 PM ET
Maybe Point from Tampa in offseason?

Tampa will need to shed salary, bad.

His contract is up in a year and no way tampa can keep him. Unless they convince McDonagh to retire early.

- Leniwm1

Ownership isn't spending any money, we have had cap space since obama was in office. Every year we hear about all this cap space and holding another team hostage. NOT HAPPENING!! The only thing this ownership group cares about is getting the prudential center up and running post covid.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 9 @ 7:16 PM ET
Surprised that's not goalie interference
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Apr 9 @ 7:29 PM ET
Our special teams is a poopshow. something needs to be done after this season.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 9 @ 7:34 PM ET
It pains me that we finally got player to want to play here, (butcher and gusev) and we are just reminding other players why not to come.
- shvingter88

rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 9 @ 7:36 PM ET
Surprised that's not goalie interference
- dmarsden2988


I thought they'd at least challenge.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Apr 9 @ 8:48 PM ET
Colorado acquired D Patrik Nemeth from the RedWings with 50% retained, for a 2022 4th round pick. So thats a relatively good benchmark for what we could expect if we move Kulikov and/or Murray
Relentless
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.19.2012

Apr 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
This is absolutely the “softest group of defensemen” we’ve ever had. . They look terrified to clear out space for Blackwood. When was the last physical defensemen we had on the roster?
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 9 @ 9:40 PM ET
This is absolutely the “softest group of defensemen” we’ve ever had. . They look terrified to clear out space for Blackwood. When was the last physical defensemen we had on the roster?
- Relentless

Well the way the world and game are changing, it’s going to be illegal to battle in front of the net. Cancel interference.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 9 @ 9:40 PM ET
Sorry Marty's better 88 no Erica tonight, covid protocol
- dmarsden2988

She spells it.. with a K!!!
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 10 @ 12:44 AM ET
OT...Do you think the Devils should go after Laine if he becomes available this trade deadline or even in the offseason? I know he wants to get paid (probably around 8+mil) but he be perfect next to the two centers we have in Nico and Hughes. The Devils will have plenty of cap space and if they are going to spend it at least spend it on top-tier talent who is still very young(22yrs old) instead of aging players like Subban. The Devils also have plenty of draft capital and prospects to make it work.
- Gambi99


No. His qualifying offer is insane. Anyone who thinks he is an elite sniper needs to remind themselves that December 2018 was when he scored 1 of his past 49 goals. Combine that with his terrible two way play, and you have a guy who really is worth just 4-5M on a good day. He will be Skinner-esque
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 10 @ 1:10 AM ET
No. His qualifying offer is insane. Anyone who thinks he is an elite sniper needs to remind themselves that December 2018 was when he scored 1 of his past 49 goals. Combine that with his terrible two way play, and you have a guy who really is worth just 4-5M on a good day. He will be Skinner-esque
- bikeguy99


he's just so young though..
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Apr 10 @ 1:24 AM ET
he's just so young though..
- MartysBetter88

The knocks on Laine are overstated. What's not overstated is that he's under team control with Columbus so we'd have to trade to pick up the contract which isn't going to happen.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 10 @ 2:04 AM ET
just copying this from the hotstove blog cuz i mistook it for our page.

Saad and Hopkins could be nice adds up front.
Saad will be 29 and has some Cup experience. Is he slow though? I rarely see him. Nuge is almost 28 already. crazy.
Maybe Hoffman (32 next season), Granlund (30) or Schwartz (30 next season)? Maybe a Goodrow or Iafallo?

We definitely have to sign at least one of those guys. I think it's a fail if we don't.

I'd be okay with bringing Zajac and Palmieri back, while adding one of these players, and I think we have the space to do it. I don't think our forwards should be on an island all learning the NHL game together. I think they should have some guys to help insulate them a bit, especially Hughes.

Saad-Hischier-Bratt
Sharangovich-Hughes-Granlund
Wood/Maltsev/Johnsson-Zacha-Kuokkanen
Johnsson/Maltsev/Bastian-McLeod-Thompson/Merkley

idk. something like that.

This lineup is already made up of kids so I'm not sure adding more rookies would benefit those here and the rookies themselves.

Gotta wonder who Seattle will take from us.. Wood, Johnsson, Subban..
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 10 @ 9:26 AM ET
just copying this from the hotstove blog cuz i mistook it for our page.

Saad and Hopkins could be nice adds up front.
Saad will be 29 and has some Cup experience. Is he slow though? I rarely see him. Nuge is almost 28 already. crazy.
Maybe Hoffman (32 next season), Granlund (30) or Schwartz (30 next season)? Maybe a Goodrow or Iafallo?

We definitely have to sign at least one of those guys. I think it's a fail if we don't.

I'd be okay with bringing Zajac and Palmieri back, while adding one of these players, and I think we have the space to do it. I don't think our forwards should be on an island all learning the NHL game together. I think they should have some guys to help insulate them a bit, especially Hughes.

Saad-Hischier-Bratt
Sharangovich-Hughes-Granlund
Wood/Maltsev/Johnsson-Zacha-Kuokkanen
Johnsson/Maltsev/Bastian-McLeod-Thompson/Merkley

idk. something like that.

This lineup is already made up of kids so I'm not sure adding more rookies would benefit those here and the rookies themselves.

Gotta wonder who Seattle will take from us.. Wood, Johnsson, Subban..

- MartysBetter88

Devils would be crazy not to protect Wood if they can. If they cannot then trade him for value. Subban and Johnsson fine to be exposed, do us a favor if actually taken.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Apr 10 @ 10:40 AM ET
Devils would be crazy not to protect Wood if they can. If they cannot then trade him for value. Subban and Johnsson fine to be exposed, do us a favor if actually taken.
- redmonsters


How does expansion work?
Do we only have a certain amount of players to protect?
So in theory, we can trim our roster as we are now with getting rid of players for picks for instance to get to bare minimum roster. Then we can sign "throw away" players and just protect everyone except them so Kraken will be forced to pick a throw away?

Is this how it works?
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Apr 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
How does expansion work?
Do we only have a certain amount of players to protect?
So in theory, we can trim our roster as we are now with getting rid of players for picks for instance to get to bare minimum roster. Then we can sign "throw away" players and just protect everyone except them so Kraken will be forced to pick a throw away?

Is this how it works?

- Leniwm1


The expansion draft happens before free agency, so you cant just sign throw away players. We're allowed to protect either 7F, 3D, 1G or 8 skaters and 1 goalie. We're obviously going the 1st option. With our current roster its pretty agreed upon that we'd be protecting Nico, Wood, Bratt, Sharangovich, Kuokkanen, Zacha, and either McLeod or Johnsson on forward. Severson, Subban, and Butcher on D. Mac in net.

So that would leave McLeod/Johnsson, Bastian, and Merkley exposed for forwards. A bunch of nothing D. And Cormier or Wedge for goaltending. So we're likely losing a forward either way.

And that's just without current roster, i assume some trades will be made before expansion which will change this
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
The expansion draft happens before free agency, so you cant just sign throw away players. We're allowed to protect either 7F, 3D, 1G or 8 skaters and 1 goalie. We're obviously going the 1st option. With our current roster its pretty agreed upon that we'd be protecting Nico, Wood, Bratt, Sharangovich, Kuokkanen, Zacha, and either McLeod or Johnsson on forward. Severson, Subban, and Butcher on D. Mac in net.

So that would leave McLeod/Johnsson, Bastian, and Merkley exposed for forwards. A bunch of nothing D. And Cormier or Wedge for goaltending. So we're likely losing a forward either way.

And that's just without current roster, i assume some trades will be made before expansion which will change this

- vlongo4419


I'd rather keep McLeod over Johnsson. Wouldn't shed a tear over him.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 10 @ 1:39 PM ET
Buffalo trades Montour to Florida

Haven't seen the return
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Apr 10 @ 1:51 PM ET
Buffalo trades Montour to Florida

Haven't seen the return

- dmarsden2988


For a 2021 3rd, no salary retained either. Definitely an overpay from Florida. Should make the case to get atleast a 3rd for Kuli/Murray if we move them now, and should be trying to get more
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Apr 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
For a 2021 3rd, no salary retained either. Definitely an overpay from Florida. Should make the case to get atleast a 3rd for Kuli/Murray if we move them now, and should be trying to get more
- vlongo4419

Hard to tell if Montour is bad or if Buffalo just makes everybody look bad. At 26 I'd say a 3rd isn't bad and with this being his last season you can just let him walk.

I'd think Kulikov/Murray are in that same area for returns even though they are having better season analytically. Especially Kulikov who I thought was going to be horrible and has really proven me wrong. Been a solid contributor out there.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Apr 10 @ 2:15 PM ET
Hard to tell if Montour is bad or if Buffalo just makes everybody look bad. At 26 I'd say a 3rd isn't bad and with this being his last season you can just let him walk.

I'd think Kulikov/Murray are in that same area for returns even though they are having better season analytically. Especially Kulikov who I thought was going to be horrible and has really proven me wrong. Been a solid contributor out there.

- Pomegrant


He's been very bad, team aside. His underlying numbers say hes one of the worst D in the league over the last 3 seasons. Panthers paid for the name instead of the player. If we move Kuli or Murray, 3rd should be the entry point for teams based off that Montour return
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Apr 10 @ 2:54 PM ET
Jackets and Lightning are close to a Savard deal. Dreger says he has a source saying the return is significant
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