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henny1953
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Aalborg
Joined: 02.10.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:09 PM ET


- RealityChecker

I wonder if this song was inspired by anything, Great but very sad song.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 7 @ 9:11 PM ET
coming at you like a 94mph wrister. is what it is. lol. punchline.
- RealityChecker

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:13 PM ET
I'm not a huge Harman fan, but he has a point.


Harman Dayal
@harmandayal2
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Richard Panik is 30, a mid-6 F (0.37 P/GP last 3 seasons) making $2.75M for the next two years

Pearson's soon to be 29 with similar 0.39 P/GP after deducting empty net points.

Both have declined this year.

Panik getting placed on waivers should be a warning for the #Canucks

- VanHockeyGuy

3x3 would be max for me. Anything more and its too much for him.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
Posted about this and everything else coming to light last week. P1 will be a real issue for BC. The vaccine roll out will be tough to combat this monster. Forget about fans in the stands even into 2022. So guess no pressure for Canuck success.
- NuckUp

You posted about 4000 deaths on April 7th last week?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 7 @ 9:17 PM ET
It was a 93mph slap shot...sheeesh

When the Bauer reps were here for demo days on the ice and we had the radar gun on the ice it was my buddy that had the 93mph wrister...insane

- LordHumungous



NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 7 @ 9:19 PM ET
3x3 would be max for me. Anything more and its too much for him.
- manvanfan


Signing him for anything is a mistake I think, unless they're sure of their cap situation for next year (ie. Petey and Hughes' numbers).

There are comparable players you could get for less. Sure, he's a known known, but with cap space as tight as it will be, why sign a more-than-likely declining asset to a deal that's going to hamper you?

If he signed a 1 year deal, maybe, but even then I wouldn't.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 7 @ 9:21 PM ET
I wonder if this song was inspired by anything, Great but very sad song.
- henny1953
Wiki:
The song is told from the "voice of an anguished hockey parent from an unidentified northern town", whose son had earned a scholarship with a U.S. team before being killed when a truck travelling in the wrong lane crashed into his car.[1]

While the song is fictional, Cochrane has said it was inspired by a custodian who approached him before a show at a rink and requested Cochrane play his son's favourite song, "Boy Inside the Man" from the band's 1986 self-titled album. He noticed the man was using the past tense, and as the conversation continued, Cochrane understood that the father's son had died.[2]

The story resonated with Cochrane, who said he began to write a song that crafted a stronger hockey narrative and thematic elements of mortality around the basis of his encounter with the father. The singer spent less than half an hour forming the basic structure, which he wrote with only a tape recorder, a guitar and a notepad in a rented bungalow in Mississauga, Ontario.[2][1]
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:23 PM ET
3x3 would be max for me. Anything more and its too much for him.
- manvanfan


To myself I'm meh either way. This sh*t show will provide astute GM's good value this offseason. Wait it out.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:23 PM ET
You posted about 4000 deaths on April 7th last week?
- NorthNuck

He sees dead people.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:26 PM ET
Signing him for anything is a mistake I think, unless they're sure of their cap situation for next year (ie. Petey and Hughes' numbers).

There are comparable players you could get for less. Sure, he's a known known, but with cap space as tight as it will be, why sign a more-than-likely declining asset to a deal that's going to hamper you?

If he signed a 1 year deal, maybe, but even then I wouldn't.

- NewYorkNuck

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:29 PM ET
Just when we were all hoping for some good news down the road. Fuk.

"B.C. health officials believe the province is about one month behind Ontario's variant trend and that province just declared its third state of emergency."
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:32 PM ET
Signing him for anything is a mistake I think, unless they're sure of their cap situation for next year (ie. Petey and Hughes' numbers).

There are comparable players you could get for less. Sure, he's a known known, but with cap space as tight as it will be, why sign a more-than-likely declining asset to a deal that's going to hamper you?

If he signed a 1 year deal, maybe, but even then I wouldn't.

- NewYorkNuck

According to Friedman. He had one guy saying 15m for petey and hughes. Another told him 18m including demko.

That leaves about 8m for 9 players to be signed. As it stands right now with multiply things possible.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:35 PM ET
To myself I'm meh either way. This sh*t show will provide astute GM's good value this offseason. Wait it out.
- VanHockeyGuy

I can see why but its got to be right price, right length.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:36 PM ET
Just when we were all hoping for some good news down the road. Fuk.

"B.C. health officials believe the province is about one month behind Ontario's variant trend and that province just declared its third state of emergency."

- VanHockeyGuy


Just heard that on the news as well. Crazy.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Apr 7 @ 9:37 PM ET
You posted about 4000 deaths on April 7th last week?
- NorthNuck


yup...predictive modelling pretty simple stuff.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Apr 7 @ 9:38 PM ET
Just heard that on the news as well. Crazy.
- bloatedmosquito


It will be worse with P1.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:40 PM ET
Just heard that on the news as well. Crazy.
- bloatedmosquito



NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Apr 7 @ 9:40 PM ET
He sees dead people.
- Marwood

You still high... ah never mind.
henny1953
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Aalborg
Joined: 02.10.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
Wiki:
- NorthNuck

Tks
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
According to Friedman. He had one guy saying 15m for petey and hughes. Another told him 18m including demko.

That leaves about 8m for 9 players to be signed. As it stands right now with multiply things possible.

- manvanfan


Hmm.. that seems not good... minus the 3 for Pearson... ah, 5 mil for 8 players. Smart.

With a grain of salt, this is from Dayal... does a good job of breaking down the large pieces of it (my underline):

With Demko’s new deal factored in, the Canucks will enter the offseason with 14 players signed at $58.4 million, per CapFriendly, leaving just north of $23 million in space.

That may sound like a decent chunk, but the flexibility disappears very rapidly. For starters, $1.7 million could get chopped off the top from performance bonuses for Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes’ entry-level contracts. After that, the Canucks will need to re-sign those two franchise players.

Let’s walk through a hypothetical exercise to illustrate what the situation could look like. The goal here isn’t to be precise about exact numbers since we’re making projections about RFAs that haven’t signed yet — so don’t get caught up over how Player X or Y should be cheaper or more expensive than illustrated here — the idea is simply to get a general snapshot.

Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman posited that the Canucks have budgeted roughly $15 million total for Pettersson and Hughes on bridge deals. If we presume that in conjunction with modest show-me deals for Adam Gaudette and Olli Juolevi, plus Vasili Podkolzin coming over on his ELC, the club runs into a very tight jam. Vancouver would have roughly $3.52 million in space with 19 players signed after these RFA projections and the potential performance bonus overage. That still doesn’t sound too bad; the problem is the number of holes that would remain on this roster:


(CapFriendly)

In this scenario, the Canucks would still need to add a top-four defender to replace Alex Edler. That alone would take up the majority of the club’s remaining cap space. Given how tight it gets, you have to wonder if the Canucks are really just better off letting Tanner Pearson, who’s not currently factored into this projection, walk to free agency, especially since this roster doesn’t look contention-ready.

Now there are obviously ways for the Canucks to clear additional space. If the Canucks can’t shed Jake Virtanen’s salary on the trade market, for instance, a buyout would wipe out $2.5 million of his $2.55 million cap hit. There’s also the possibility of demoting Loui Eriksson to the AHL for the maximum buriable relief (projected to be $1.125 million) and the fact that the club will lose someone to Seattle in the expansion draft.

Again, this is why we’re only presenting this as a general snapshot rather than a precise calculation of their exact situation. There are moving parts, the situation is fluid.

That said, the general snapshot is clear: It’s unlikely the Canucks will have the flexibility this offseason to make substantial upgrades after re-signing their RFAs.


Lots of ways to free more cap (trade, Seattle, buy outs, etc) but it's not the prettiest picture right now.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:42 PM ET
It will be worse with P1.
- NuckUp


Yup, it will just take awhile for it to become real for some.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Apr 7 @ 9:46 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy


Notice the middle bullet about vaccinated and re-infection. Brought that up last week too. But some too naive to comprehend. I did warn about mutation and variants this time last year. It was not understood at the time either.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:49 PM ET
A good read.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ers-variant-transmission/
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:51 PM ET
Notice the middle bullet about vaccinated and re-infection. Brought that up last week too. But some too naive to comprehend. I did warn about mutation and variants this time last year. It was not understood at the time either.
- NuckUp


I'm not going to get into the debate in here anymore. Not worth it, it's bad enough with the slurpers.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Apr 7 @ 9:52 PM ET
Yup, it will just take awhile for it to become real for some.
- VanHockeyGuy


It's a flaw that if you didn't experience danger first hand that you don't respect its presence. Living in fear is not the requirement either. Just awareness of actions and effect.
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