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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 31 @ 8:04 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 3/31/21 @ BUF
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Mar 31 @ 8:14 AM ET
Good morning. Wonder how the locker room feels with Ghost being waived? Will that be the built in excuse for tonight's game? The they we were not focused angle.

Of course the cap hit is the biggest obstacle. He isnt worth 4.5 for the next 2 years. If he was making half that he probably wouldn't even be waived. I suggested a few days ago they waive him. Hopefully Jake is next.
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Mar 31 @ 8:15 AM ET
Has Ghost not been claimed, or is it not announced until noon?

Cap437
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.30.2017

Mar 31 @ 8:20 AM ET
Please... Please... PLEASE NO MORE GUS!
At this point, I'd rather watch Bill lace up his old skates and play beside Morin.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 31 @ 8:23 AM ET
Has Ghost not been claimed, or is it not announced until noon?
- Nh_kong


Will be announced, either which way, at noon.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 31 @ 8:26 AM ET
I would be very disappointed if waiving Ghost was only to send a message to the locker room. I mean if you really wanted to send a message, pick someone who is considered a leader, like Jake V. The fact that its Ghost to me tells me there is something more going on here, either its a specific discipline to Ghost or to have cap space flexibility in order to make significant trades at the deadline.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 31 @ 8:26 AM ET
I would be very disappointed if waiving Ghost was only to send a message to the locker room. I mean if you really wanted to send a message, pick someone who is considered a leader, like Jake V. The fact that its Ghost tells me there is something more going on here, either its a specific discipline to Ghost or to have cap space flexibility in order to make significant trades at the deadline.
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 8:28 AM ET
Will be announced, either which way, at noon.
- bmeltzer

Wonder if he clears waivers will a team then try to extract a pick/prospect from the flyers to take make a deal.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 31 @ 8:29 AM ET
Still hoping he gets claimed and think for the Flyers it would help them out greatly in the future.

Ghost -> Claimed...4.5m off the cap for 2 years

JvR -> the possibility getting selected for the expansion draft is good...7m off the cap for 2 years

The Flyers don't have any RFA's that deserve any substantial raise so the cap space they have is plenty to deal internally. You can do a lot with 11.5m for the next 2 years, whether it is 1 or 2 UFAs or room to make trades.
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 8:35 AM ET
Still hoping he gets claimed and think for the Flyers it would help them out greatly in the future.

Ghost -> Claimed...4.5m off the cap for 2 years

JvR -> the possibility getting selected for the expansion draft is good...7m off the cap for 2 years

The Flyers don't have any RFA's that deserve any substantial raise so the cap space they have is plenty to deal internally. You can do a lot with 11.5m for the next 2 years, whether it is 1 or 2 UFAs or room to make trades.

- Glak18

Better scenario is Jake getting claimed in the ED.
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 8:38 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 3/31/21 @ BUF
- bmeltzer

Bill any thoughts on these Jonathan Bernier rumors?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 31 @ 8:38 AM ET
Better scenario is Jake getting claimed in the ED.
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I think he is exposed too, but I see Francis taking JvR, especially with his play this year and less term.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 31 @ 8:42 AM ET
I know most people here hate Ghost but this waiving him just doesn't sit right with me.

Regardless of the real reason, the optics look like he is a scapegoat and the team is using him as punishment when there are plenty of other players who are way more culpable. Voracek being #1 in my eyes.

I understand its a business.
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 8:42 AM ET
I think he is exposed too, but I see Francis taking JvR, especially with his play this year and less term.
- Glak18

If it is between those 2 yes I agree 100%. That is why the GM needs to add something to get them to take Jake
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 31 @ 8:49 AM ET
Ghost is the first to be waived and now let's hope Jake is next. Of course, we know that no one will take his salary, but good way to get everyone's attention. I've wanted both of these players traded for 2 years now.....soft soft soft.
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 31 @ 8:49 AM ET
I know most people here hate Ghost but this waiving him just doesn't sit right with me.

Regardless of the real reason, the optics look like he is a scapegoat and the team is using him as punishment when there are plenty of other players who are way more culpable. Voracek being #1 in my eyes.

I understand its a business.

- MBFlyerfan

Well if the coach is going to consistently have a short leash with him, continue to yo yo him in and out of the lineup, then the best choice is to move along. Clearly they have tried to move him to know avail. So know see if a team bites.

I don't see it as a scapegoat move at all. He doesn't fit into their future plans imo. For whatever reason he is not all that liked by the coaches is how I see it.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Mar 31 @ 9:04 AM ET
I worry about this move if it was to send a message, especially if he’s claimed. Sort sighted move imo. This feels like a move that could backfire tremendously.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 31 @ 9:08 AM ET
I worry about this move if it was to send a message, especially if he’s claimed. Sort sighted move imo. This feels like a move that could backfire tremendously.
- arichardson22

Backfire tremendously? If anything it would be beneficial to get his cap off the books. Short sighted is looking at this season and trying to salvage it. Obviously would love for them to make the playoffs but this team needs reevaluated this off-season and this is step one.
mkabbeko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Mar 31 @ 9:10 AM ET
Just curious, does anybody here know how waiver claims work? Is it a first dibs situation or does each team get a opportunity to make a claim ordered by the standings?

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 31 @ 9:12 AM ET
Just curious, does anybody here know how waiver claims work? Is it a first dibs situation or does each team get a opportunity to make a claim ordered by the standings?
- mkabbeko

Believe it’s by standings , Buffalo has first dibs
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Mar 31 @ 9:13 AM ET
I know most people here hate Ghost but this waiving him just doesn't sit right with me.

Regardless of the real reason, the optics look like he is a scapegoat and the team is using him as punishment when there are plenty of other players who are way more culpable. Voracek being #1 in my eyes.

I understand its a business.

- MBFlyerfan


I could not agree more, MB. I know hockey is a business, yadda yadda...but players have lives off the ice, and to make Ghost or any other player a sacrificial lamb for the purpose of sending a “message from the general manager to the locker room” seems like a dumb way to go about it. It could totally backfire, as we’ve all read and heard accounts from players on how tight a group they have.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 31 @ 9:14 AM ET
I know most people here hate Ghost but this waiving him just doesn't sit right with me
- MBFlyerfan


I forget just how different hb'ers are from users on other sites. I'm so used to seeing people poop all over Ghost here, but I ventured over to BSH and HFBoards for the first time in a long time yesterday and most people were so upset at Fletch that they were basically burning jerseys.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Mar 31 @ 9:15 AM ET
i just hope they're not really interested in bernier. can't imagine he looks much better with the breakdowns on defense that this team is regularly having. get help on defense, don't get another goalie.
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Mar 31 @ 9:16 AM ET
I forget just how different hb'ers are from users on other sites. I'm so used to seeing people poop all over Ghost here, but I ventured over to BSH and HFBoards for the first time in a long time yesterday and most people were so upset at Fletch that they were basically burning jerseys.
- Tomahawk

Ghost is a #1 dman and flyers best dman according to posters on other sites.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Mar 31 @ 9:18 AM ET
Backfire tremendously? If anything it would be beneficial to get his cap off the books. Short sighted is looking at this season and trying to salvage it. Obviously would love for them to make the playoffs but this team needs reevaluated this off-season and this is step one.
- ClaudeFather


The other night during the game Jonesy said the players aren’t listening to the coaches. If this holds any weight, this move could make the players tune them out even more. As many have pointed out (including Bill), the Flyers could have sent Gus down. Who knows maybe the move wakes everybody the (frank) up. But I still worry
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