8 each left?

if so, you really hope those 2 are playing for pride and are real lose when the Pens play them.
- wcorvette

still makes no sense to even worry about it. the flyers are 2 points ahead of the penguins already despite playing 2 less games. and they play them 3 times this week, so they could possibly widen that margin. they have to handle their own business.

I always get a kick out of clueless know it all’s that pretend to know about what it takes to build a championship hockey team, when they clearly have demonstrated they have no clue about the very basics of what it is that makes a good hockey player or a good team.

Perhaps I'm reading what you're posting incorrectly but it seems as though to me you think they have an advantage over the Flyers. They're in the same boat. Having to wait. There are a number of teams in the league that have top high end talent but are average teams. Edmonton with McDavid and Draisaitl. Buffalo with Eichel. They aren't going anywhere soon. Why are the Devils and the Rangers going to surpass us? If you start making deals like this, you get back to the same point they were before Hextall. If Ekblom doesn't elevate them, then what? Make more deals in the Summer? If that doesn't work then what? Soon you're cap strapped and lacking future assets and that stream of ELC players. You've also given up your depth. Fletcher has made smart moves in his tenure. Let's hope that continues.
- MJL

So you sit back like a scared dog waiting and waiting; for a day that may never come. The GM has made the easy moves when you break it down. Hasn't done anything terrible so yeah i guess that is smart.

Not all moves will work out.

when can they extend? This summer or January 2022?
- login

Im not sure but I THINK they can extend this summer and the contract kicks in after the old one expires.

I always get a kick out of clueless know it all’s that pretend to know about what it takes to build a championship hockey team, when they clearly have demonstrated they have know clue about the very basics of what it is that makes a good hockey player or a good team.
- landros 2

Game-time tomorrow night can't come soon enough!

So you sit back like a scared dog waiting and waiting; for a day that may never come. The GM has made the easy moves when you break it down. Hasn't done anything terrible so yeah i guess that is smart.

Not all moves will work out.
- login

How does he not elevate them as well? He solidifies our defensive group. How many actual “game changers” are even out there?

Im not sure but I THINK they can extend this summer and the contract kicks in after the old one expires.
- MBFlyerfan

Well of course after the old one expires!!!

So you sit back like a scared dog waiting and waiting; for a day that may never come. The GM has made the easy moves when you break it down. Hasn't done anything terrible so yeah i guess that is smart.

Not all moves will work out.
- login

Of course...you sit back and wait for player development , because making trades or taking chances never works.....because Ron Hextall gave us results ....why would we make trades to better our selves ? It never worked for Boston, LA, Pittsburgh and St.Louis in the last decade.

How does he not elevate them as well? He solidifies our defensive group. How many actual “game changers” are even out there?
- ClaudeFather

He does elevate them as he makes them better. Just not a "difference" maker. Allows Ghost to slot to the bottom pair with Braun. Which in turn puts gus and hagg on the bench.

All about cost and if as many teams are interested in him as reported it will not be cheap.

He does elevate them as he makes them better. Just not a "difference" maker. Allows Ghost to slot to the bottom pair with Braun. Which in turn puts gus and hagg on the bench.

All about cost and if as many teams are interested in him as reported it will not be cheap.
- login

People will have a fit if Ghost is on the bottom pair lol

Why would you want to break up the obvious chemistry of the 4th line, and what has Patrick done to warrant pushing Bunnaman out of the lineup?
- jd250

Oh wow....

Perhaps I'm reading what you're posting incorrectly but it seems as though to me you think they have an advantage over the Flyers. They're in the same boat. Having to wait. There are a number of teams in the league that have top high end talent but are average teams. Edmonton with McDavid and Draisaitl. Buffalo with Eichel. They aren't going anywhere soon. Why are the Devils and the Rangers going to surpass us? If you start making deals like this, you get back to the same point they were before Hextall. If Ekblom doesn't elevate them, then what? Make more deals in the Summer? If that doesn't work then what? Soon you're cap strapped and lacking future assets and that stream of ELC players. You've also given up your depth. Fletcher has made smart moves in his tenure. Let's hope that continues.
- MJL

Not what i am saying. I only bring the Rangers and Dev's up as an example. The Flyers are clearly a head of them right now in my opinion but they have talent and high end talent. So suggesting the Flyers continue to build through the draft and development while not making any trades actually allows some teams to catch up. In my opinion, if they wait for what we have in the pipe and what we have on the roster to get better it, will not make us contenders, at least not in the next 24 months. So the Flyers could wait but that will allow other teams like the Dev's etc to catch up and you really can't say drafting and our prospects and young guys getting better will make us a contender any time soon. Just from a business perspective that is not a solid plan in my opinion.

I think the Flyers have an advantage over a good number of teams right now, were not elite but just short of that contender status. So either way you slice it, in my opinion, the Flyers will make a trade, either in season or this off-season to position themselves to go for it in the next 12-36 months. You know I don't like selling assets or overpaying but I support Fletcher, he has shown he won't overpay or sacrifice the future. So if he does get Ekholm I wont be surprised, I wont be disappointed as long as it was a good hockey trade with a plan for expansion and a cup run in the near future.

People will have a fit if Ghost is on the bottom pair lol
- ClaudeFather

Come playoff time that is where he belongs. Keep him on the pp. Utilize his skill. Real simple.

Well of course after the old one expires!!!
- login

Why even ask then. Are you always a Richard or do you have to work at it?

Not what i am saying. I only bring the Rangers and Dev's up as an example. The Flyers are clearly a head of them right now in my opinion but they have talent and high end talent. So suggesting the Flyers continue to build through the draft and development while not making any trades actually allows some teams to catch up. In my opinion, if they wait for what we have in the pipe and what we have on the roster to get better it, will not make us contenders, at least not in the next 24 months. So the Flyers could wait but that will allow other teams like the Dev's etc to catch up and you really can't say drafting and our prospects and young guys getting better will make us a contender any time soon. Just from a business perspective that is not a solid plan in my opinion.

I think the Flyers have an advantage over a good number of teams right now, were not elite but just short of that contender status. So either way you slice it, in my opinion, the Flyers will make a trade, either in season or this off-season to position themselves to go for it in the next 12-36 months. You know I don't like selling assets or overpaying but I support Fletcher, he has shown he won't overpay or sacrifice the future. So if he does get Ekholm I wont be surprised, I wont be disappointed as long as it was a good hockey trade with a plan for expansion and a cup run in the near future.
- wcorvette

The one thing that is true imo is they have the better high end talent. There are no potential superstars in the Flyers system. Flyers have some nice players is all. None as one would say a "difference" maker....

Why even ask then. Are you always a Richard or do you have to work at it?
- MBFlyerfan

No I was asking when they can extend him. Why you would even bring up it takes effect after the current on expires is plain dumb. It comes naturally.

Come playoff time that is where he belongs. Keep him on the pp. Utilize his skill. Real simple.
- login

I tend to agree but if he continues to read the plays the way he is, he is just fine in the top 4. Ghost at his best is stopping plays before they begin. He looks really good on PP, if he pucks start going in, look out.

I tend to agree but if he continues to read the plays the way he is, he is just fine in the top 4. Ghost at his best is stopping plays before they begin. He looks really good on PP, if he pucks start going in, look out.
- wcorvette

If; I put little stock in how he plays against a lifeless less physical team than the flyers. He plays totally diff against forechecking teams.

He should be on the top PP over Ivan. He is better than Ivan in that role

If; I put little stock in how he plays against a lifeless less physical team than the flyers. He plays totally diff against forechecking teams.

He should be on the top PP over Ivan. He is better than Ivan in that role
- login

for me, he has been one of the best D this season, I think he and Sanheim, Provy has been fighting it but big minutes. But yes, when Ghost plays the Caps, Pens, Isles he needs to play the same game. What drives me crazy is when a D makes a mistake and everyone jumps on them. ALL D men make mistakes, on all teams.

Not what i am saying. I only bring the Rangers and Dev's up as an example. The Flyers are clearly a head of them right now in my opinion but they have talent and high end talent. So suggesting the Flyers continue to build through the draft and development while not making any trades actually allows some teams to catch up. In my opinion, if they wait for what we have in the pipe and what we have on the roster to get better it, will not make us contenders, at least not in the next 24 months. So the Flyers could wait but that will allow other teams like the Dev's etc to catch up and you really can't say drafting and our prospects and young guys getting better will make us a contender any time soon. Just from a business perspective that is not a solid plan in my opinion.

I think the Flyers have an advantage over a good number of teams right now, were not elite but just short of that contender status. So either way you slice it, in my opinion, the Flyers will make a trade, either in season or this off-season to position themselves to go for it in the next 12-36 months. You know I don't like selling assets or overpaying but I support Fletcher, he has shown he won't overpay or sacrifice the future. So if he does get Ekholm I wont be surprised, I wont be disappointed as long as it was a good hockey trade with a plan for expansion and a cup run in the near future.
- wcorvette

I'm not proposing the Flyers don't make trades. I'm proposing the Flyers make the right trades. I'm proposing that the Flyers don't make trades and give up quality assets, both in the trade itself and whatever it costs you in the expansion draft for a marginal upgrade that doesn't really elevate the team. There is no getting around that the Flyers have to wait for players like Sanheim, Myers, Hart, Farabee and others to take the next step. That's just the process. If you can make a smart move that doesn't give away top assets and future cap issues, such as the Gudas for Niskanen trade. By all means make it.
If you're going to give up high value assets and lose a player in the expansion draft you don't want to ,to do it, do it for a real difference maker.
To me the single biggest player that could upgrade the Flyers is a legit top pairing defenseman. That's not Ekholm. Very difficult to get.
Position yourself for the future, both short term and long term.
Short term, I'd probably look for a veteran defenseman who can help out on the PK, play on the 3rd pair and solidify that. A player that you don't pay a lot for and doesn't affect the expansion draft.
Long term, continue to draft and develop. If JVR has a strong year all season, I might look to move him if I can in the off season. Even if you have to take below market value. Position yourself with the cap space to trade for or sign in free agency the player that is a true difference maker if it becomes available. That's smart team building. If you fo down the path of making moves for marginal upgrades over and over. You'll find yourself cap strapped and lacking assets all over again. The Flyers are well positioned thanks to Hextall. Don't blow it by getting over anxious and losing patience.

I'm not proposing the Flyers don't make trades. I'm proposing the Flyers make the right trades. I'm proposing that the Flyers don't make trades and give up quality assets, both in the trade itself and whatever it costs you in the expansion draft for a marginal upgrade that doesn't really elevate the team. There is no getting around that the Flyers have to wait for players like Sanheim, Myers, Hart, Farabee and others to take the next step. That's just the process. If you can make a smart move that doesn't give away top assets and future cap issues, such as the Gudas for Niskanen trade. By all means make it.
If you're going to give up high value assets and lose a player in the expansion draft you don't want to ,to do it, do it for a real difference maker.
To me the single biggest player that could upgrade the Flyers is a legit top pairing defenseman. That's not Ekholm. Very difficult to get.
Position yourself for the future, both short term and long term.
Short term, I'd probably look for a veteran defenseman who can help out on the PK, play on the 3rd pair and solidify that. A player that you don't pay a lot for and doesn't affect the expansion draft.
Long term, continue to draft and develop. If JVR has a strong year all season, I might look to move him if I can in the off season. Even if you have to take below market value. Position yourself with the cap space to trade for or sign in free agency the player that is a true difference maker if it becomes available. That's smart team building. If you fo down the path of making moves for marginal upgrades over and over. You'll find yourself cap strapped and lacking assets all over again. The Flyers are well positioned thanks to Hextall. Don't blow it by getting over anxious and losing patience.
- MJL

Need to make moves when these guys are on their bridge or ELC contracts as well. Once they get that big contract where is the cap space and what not?

Every GM has a draft and develop philosophy.

But Clode Jake and Couturier are very concerned about trading young players and picks for a chance to win.

Teams will be lining up for Selke when he hits free agency. He knows this; will it sour him if the Flyers dont try to win it in the next 2 years?
- login

Luv that soft shutdown seanie is now selke and will have teams lining up for him

I'm not proposing the Flyers don't make trades. I'm proposing the Flyers make the right trades. I'm proposing that the Flyers don't make trades and give up quality assets, both in the trade itself and whatever it costs you in the expansion draft for a marginal upgrade that doesn't really elevate the team. There is no getting around that the Flyers have to wait for players like Sanheim, Myers, Hart, Farabee and others to take the next step. That's just the process. If you can make a smart move that doesn't give away top assets and future cap issues, such as the Gudas for Niskanen trade. By all means make it.
If you're going to give up high value assets and lose a player in the expansion draft you don't want to ,to do it, do it for a real difference maker.
To me the single biggest player that could upgrade the Flyers is a legit top pairing defenseman. That's not Ekholm. Very difficult to get.
Position yourself for the future, both short term and long term.
Short term, I'd probably look for a veteran defenseman who can help out on the PK, play on the 3rd pair and solidify that. A player that you don't pay a lot for and doesn't affect the expansion draft.
Long term, continue to draft and develop. If JVR has a strong year all season, I might look to move him if I can in the off season. Even if you have to take below market value. Position yourself with the cap space to trade for or sign in free agency the player that is a true difference maker if it becomes available. That's smart team building. If you fo down the path of making moves for marginal upgrades over and over. You'll find yourself cap strapped and lacking assets all over again. The Flyers are well positioned thanks to Hextall. Don't blow it by getting over anxious and losing patience.
- MJL

were not saying different things, short of the idea that I believe there will be a trade and probably multiple trades in the next 6 months, they will be made with an eye on the cup. I don't want to overpay but if fletcher does a small overpay I will understand. Coming into this season I would have said that Lindblom and Patrick were untouchable now for me they are not, as long as you get full value back, something that is a part of the reason the Flyers become favorites. That will have to be a series of moves in all likelihood. JVR, I agree, you would have to sell high. I am a fan of JVR, I think he earned his current contract, without injuries I think he has given fair value in return. With how he is playing, only 2 years left, there would be a taker, a team that sees a PP front man as a real need

Luv that soft shutdown seanie is now selke and will have teams lining up for him
- KINGKENZO

How was the weekend? Do anything worthwhile?

Going on 15 hours of arguing. A record maybe ? The Flyers did win two in a row by shutout right ?