I agree on the fake noise, its terrible. And, the late starts are terrible as well. So, the Saturday night game against the Habs starts at 9. That's 10 pm for Habs fans, so much for watching your team at a reasonable time.

And I agree Denis is a good play by play but he makes lots of verbal mistakes on players names and last night it was the Leafs and the Habs.
- Old Flopper

Would think he makes more mistakes on players' names and numbers in certain games - believe he is calling it virtual for away games. Must be tough. But believe he is actually at the MTS Centre.

I wouldn't call it hate, its frustration!!

I love this team!!! I think we can win it all!!!

but yes, I am blaming Maurice for holding the team back. I do not see us winning it all without some changes being made, that Maurice will not make. I think I am allowed to be frustrated by that.

look at it this way, Canada would never be ok or happy with a silver or bronze medal in the Olympics, NEVER!! so why should I be ok with a playoff appearance and possibly a first round win? don't settle

maybe some of us who are seen as "haters" are actually more excited and optimistic about this team than those just happy to see us with a winning record.

I'm not here for Participation ribbons.


ask yourself this; do we win more games with;

A

Morrisey-Poolman
Forbott-Pionk
Beau-Demelo
-this is Maurice's ideal healthy 6

or B

Morrisey-Demelo
Heinola -Pionk
Stanley/Samberg/Forbott - Poolman

I'll take B all Day.

would you rather see a 4th line of

Perreault-Thompson-Lewis ( Maurice's ideal 4th line )
or
any 3 of Perreault, Ves, Gus, Harkins

again, I'll take the later.

what is a more deadly top PP?

55-25-26-81-44
or
55-13-27-81-4

again, I'll take the later.

if you all disagree with me, please explain why
- Ross77

I prefer something more like option A with Stanley/Poolman in rather than Beau (jumped out of my chair when he whiffed on the hit on PK). Niku had game last night, not sure if he can do that night in night out. The D you propose got eaten alive by Calgary in the playoffs - just not enough power. Forbort hasn't had his best game on for the last week or so, he needs to mellow out and just let his play do the work - intensity level doesn't add to his game it hurts it. He will be fine and pairs really well with Pionk.

I like Perreault Harkins Lewis on 4th line. Perreault is overpaid but good enough to belong, Lewis impresses me with his consistent, smart game and should be in the lineup for the PK if nothing else. Harkins always puts in the effort (like a younger Perreault), has a bit of offense in him.

The PP stagnated to league average with Laine when everyone figured out the lack of mobility, loss of Buff really hurt too. The current PP has moved the puck very well and has been effective and they can roll out another formidable line when the PP ends. A good streak puts them near the top of the league. I like Morrissey at the point better than Pionk because he moves it quicker. All the others are legitiimate threats to score at any time. Eventually Dubois can play the middle rather than Stasny maybe?

I prefer something more like option A with Stanley/Poolman in rather than Beau (jumped out of my chair when he whiffed on the hit on PK). Niku had game last night, not sure if he can do that night in night out. The D you propose got eaten alive by Calgary in the playoffs - just not enough power. Forbort hasn't had his best game on for the last week or so, he needs to mellow out and just let his play do the work - intensity level doesn't add to his game it hurts it. He will be fine and pairs really well with Pionk.

I like Perreault Harkins Lewis on 4th line. Perreault is overpaid but good enough to belong, Lewis impresses me with his consistent, smart game and should be in the lineup for the PK if nothing else. Harkins always puts in the effort (like a younger Perreault), has a bit of offense in him.

The PP stagnated to league average with Laine when everyone figured out the lack of mobility, loss of Buff really hurt too. The current PP has moved the puck very well and has been effective and they can roll out another formidable line when the PP ends. A good streak puts them near the top of the league. I like Morrissey at the point better than Pionk because he moves it quicker. All the others are legitiimate threats to score at any time. Eventually Dubois can play the middle rather than Stasny maybe?
- 2.0

Pionk was very bad in play in round against Calgary, hope it was a one off. Heinola is probably already our best D and he is not playing nor did he in the play in round. Morrisey hasn't been good since Trouba left, including play in round. Poolman was good in play in round. we don't need D to play as big as you think if they move the puck and skate better. I think 4 or 5 of Colorado's 6 D are all under 200' and are doing quite well without size

positives;

-sheif
-PLD - but get him back to center
-Appleton
-Lowry
-Niku played well with Demelo, Demelo is a good partner for him
-Demelo seems to be taking heat this year but to me he is still so clearly our 2nd best D only behind Pionk.


negatives;

-wheels is still bad ( or not as good may be more polite), don't give him praise playing with two all stars, Lewis would get the same results. the longer Wheels stays in his same top 6 role and top pp the longer this team is being held back from taking the next step. sorry, but wheels is a consistently a step behind the play and seen wondering
-Beu and Thompson are not NHL'ers PERIOD they are holding this team back, they should be last resort plays. Heinaols, Samberg, Stanley, Niku should all play before Beaus and Gus, Ves, Harkins should all play before Thompson. this isn't funny anymore, its sad
-Forbot has slowed down a lot and its showing, I haven't liked him for a while
-Morrisey can not carry any D, Poolman was and could possibly be better than him, accept that, cause all the evidence is now suggesting it. and im not trying to praise Poolman, he is still best suited for thrid pair. just saying Morrisey is not a top pair D without a a partner clearly better than him. give him Heinola or demelo stat.
-our power play has been league average for three years, why are we still trying the same things????? wheels, stastny and Morrisey all need to go down to 2nd unit with Ehlers, PLD and Pionk up to top unit. Ves should be the shooter on 2nd unit.
- Ross77

I agree with almost all of these takes. I think Forbort has been heavily over rated on this board (and by broadcasters) who is being carried by Pionk. I don't mind Morrisey, but I'm not to sure he belongs on PP2, let alone PP1. If Niku were in the lineup regularly I'd have a look at him on the point for PP1 or go with Pionk. I didn't like Pionk on the 1st PP last year, as I didn't think he did a good job with setting up Laine - that no longer matters. I would love to see Ves on PP2.

Good grief. What does Maurice have on the higher ups? He’s gotta go.

Pionk was very bad in play in round against Calgary, hope it was a one off. Heinola is probably already our best D and he is not playing nor did he in the play in round. Morrisey hasn't been good since Trouba left, including play in round. Poolman was good in play in round. we don't need D to play as big as you think if they move the puck and skate better. I think 4 or 5 of Colorado's 6 D are all under 200' and are doing quite well without size
- Ross77

it is the regular season and all results are vs average level of competition on aggregate and when that opposition is playing without threat of elimination. We'll see how they faire under pressure - too soon to judge.

I think you are too high on Heinola. A worthy top prospect, yes. Best D on Jets, doubt it. Even if he is better than half of them he doesn't tip the scale to suddenly make them a strong d team. If he is what we think he is then he will get in and contribute. Injuries will happen, even in a powder-puff division like the north.

it is the regular season and all results are vs average level of competition on aggregate and when that opposition is playing without threat of elimination. We'll see how they faire under pressure - too soon to judge.

I think you are too high on Heinola. A worthy top prospect, yes. Best D on Jets, doubt it. Even if he is better than half of them he doesn't tip the scale to suddenly make them a strong d team. If he is what we think he is then he will get in and contribute. Injuries will happen, even in a powder-puff division like the north.
- 2.0

This is one of your best posts ever 2.0! I normally disagree with you but you hit this post right out of the park.

This is such a weak division. The Canadiens, Flames, Canucks and Senators would not even be in playoff contention in their own divisions if this were a real season! I might even include the Oilers in that list.

it is the regular season and all results are vs average level of competition on aggregate and when that opposition is playing without threat of elimination. We'll see how they faire under pressure - too soon to judge.

I think you are too high on Heinola. A worthy top prospect, yes. Best D on Jets, doubt it. Even if he is better than half of them he doesn't tip the scale to suddenly make them a strong d team. If he is what we think he is then he will get in and contribute. Injuries will happen, even in a powder-puff division like the north.
- 2.0

Your point on Colorado and playoffs is a 100% valid.

As for Heinola, I dont think he is Bobby Orr or anything but I just don’t think that highly of our D. I see Pionk and Morrisey as being 2-3 guys when at their best, Morrisey hasn’t been that in a while. the rest are probably 5-7 guys if we are being honest. Demelo could be a solid 4.

Bobby Ryan is the type of winger Chevy should get for Maurice. The guy is a veteran that can still play the game. We should trade Detroit a 6th round pick plus Lewis to get him.

Bobby Ryan is the type of winger Chevy should get for Maurice. The guy is a veteran that can still play the game. We should trade Detroit a 6th round pick plus Lewis to get him.
- TheUltimateJet

Pretty solid LA connection on this team, don't see Lewis going anywhere, wouldn't be surprised if Detroit could get a 3rd for Ryan, also think Yzerman will respect Ryan's wishes and only trade him if he wants to join a contender for a cup run or not.

Your point on Colorado and playoffs is a 100% valid.

As for Heinola, I dont think he is Bobby Orr or anything but I just don’t think that highly of our D. I see Pionk and Morrisey as being 2-3 guys when at their best, Morrisey hasn’t been that in a while. the rest are probably 5-7 guys if we are being honest. Demelo could be a solid 4.
- Ross77

If I was to rank the Jets dmen I have Morrissey and Pionk as #2/3 dmen, Forbort a #4/5, Stanley, DeMelo, Poolman, Niku as a #5/6, Beaulieu as a #6.
Take the best 6 out of that group and it's still a pretty weak group, just a bit better then the worst D cores in the league really, Heinola is at least this teams second best dman if not best dman already and would instantly improve this defense.
Wanting to slide Heinola's ELC is the only thing keeping him out of the lineup I'm guessing.

If they're not going to play Heinola they'll need to make a trade to improve this D core, need to add at least one more true top 4 dman, what they have now might be good enough in the weak North Division but if they got to third round of the playoffs it'd be their downfall imo.

Just my opinion though.

If I was to rank the Jets dmen I have Morrissey and Pionk as #2/3 dmen, Forbort a #4/5, Stanley, DeMelo, Poolman, Niku as a #5/6, Beaulieu as a #6.
Take the best 6 out of that group and it's still a pretty weak group, just a bit better then the worst D cores in the league really, Heinola is at least this teams second best dman if not best dman already and would instantly improve this defense.
Wanting to slide Heinola's ELC is the only thing keeping him out of the lineup I'm guessing.

If they're not going to play Heinola they'll need to make a trade to improve this D core, need to add at least one more true top 4 dman, what they have now might be good enough in the weak North Division but if they got to third round of the playoffs it'd be their downfall imo.

Just my opinion though.
- JetFuel

It's been a year since I predicted Covid would take its toll on the NHL . I think there is still a risk that the playoffs could be hampered by teams having games or even series suspended by Covid. Anything can happen. I think the Jets have a pretty great lineup and trading away valuable low-cap draft picks for a rental has real risks involved of completely wasting that trade. Furthermore, there are all the cross-border quarantines that hamper players' abilities to integrate into lineups. I think it may not be as active at the trade deadline this year.

I think Chevy will be more of a seller than a buyer to be quite honest

How familiar are most of us with the top three scorers on the Moose? I'm not one who would have predicted that ,but with the taxi squad situation on the Jets, it gives some lesser know guys a chance to flaunt their stuff.

And where is journeyman Marko Dano these days? He has disappeared into some void

Bobby Ryan is the type of winger Chevy should get for Maurice. The guy is a veteran that can still play the game. We should trade Detroit a 6th round pick plus Lewis to get him.
- TheUltimateJet

Not sure why the Jets would want Bobby Ryan when we have an abundance of forwards, and need help on the B-line?

If I was to rank the Jets dmen I have Morrissey and Pionk as #2/3 dmen, Forbort a #4/5, Stanley, DeMelo, Poolman, Niku as a #5/6, Beaulieu as a #6.
Take the best 6 out of that group and it's still a pretty weak group, just a bit better then the worst D cores in the league really, Heinola is at least this teams second best dman if not best dman already and would instantly improve this defense.
Wanting to slide Heinola's ELC is the only thing keeping him out of the lineup I'm guessing.

If they're not going to play Heinola they'll need to make a trade to improve this D core, need to add at least one more true top 4 dman, what they have now might be good enough in the weak North Division but if they got to third round of the playoffs it'd be their downfall imo.

Just my opinion though.
- JetFuel

Heinola burns a year of his ELC whether he's with the Jets or the Moose (10 games), so not a point. At least my understanding of rules.

Heinola the 2nd best d-man already on the Jets? How do you know? What have you seen, when he's playing against men, that makes you think that?

Saying Heinola is the 2nd best d-man on the Jets is like saying Nate Thompson is the 2nd best forward on the team.

Oh I'm like a lot of you, want to see Heinola and Samberg on the big stage, but let's let them get some experience and confidence at the AHL level. Let them excel there - and then move them up. Better for both team and player. IMO!

You Guys Suck. Paul Maurice has dragged that hamfisted lunch pail rag tag Motley Crue to the playoffs for years.

It's been a year since I predicted Covid would take its toll on the NHL . I think there is still a risk that the playoffs could be hampered by teams having games or even series suspended by Covid. Anything can happen. I think the Jets have a pretty great lineup and trading away valuable low-cap draft picks for a rental has real risks involved of completely wasting that trade. Furthermore, there are all the cross-border quarantines that hamper players' abilities to integrate into lineups. I think it may not be as active at the trade deadline this year.

I think Chevy will be more of a seller than a buyer to be quite honest
- jetsnation

I can’t believe how negative you have become Jetsnation. This is a Stanley Cup winning roster and you are thinking we are going to be sellers? I am super disappointed after this reading this post.

Not sure why the Jets would want Bobby Ryan when we have an abundance of forwards, and need help on the B-line?
- grahamzky

We need 0 help on the blue line. This blue line has been terrible due to poor structure. Even when we had Myers, Byfuglien, Trouba and Chariot, we were still giving up an abnormal amount of chances against. The biggest change that the blue line needs is a new defensive coach and also head coach while we are at it!

Also Bobby Ryan is way better than Perrault, Thompson and Lewis. He can also play on any line and makes the same amount as Lewis. Need I say more?

I can’t believe how negative you have become Jetsnation. This is a Stanley Cup winning roster and you are thinking we are going to be sellers? I am super disappointed after this reading this post.
- TheUltimateJet

Maybe I should be clearer. I don't think we need Perreault or Niku or also Beaulieu. They are expendable. Not much value for MP though as an upcoming UFA. Guys like Harkins, Vesalainen, etc can easily fill his role. Stanley, Heinola, Samberg can replace Niku So if there is a package we can offer as an upgrade somewhere that also includes a roster Dman then do it but not at the expense of any high draft choices.

So what I'm saying is that our roster is plenty good enough not to give away any high draft choices for a deadline trade in an uncertain Covid world but possibly an upgrade could work.

We need 0 help on the blue line. This blue line has been terrible due to poor structure. Even when we had Myers, Byfuglien, Trouba and Chariot, we were still giving up an abnormal amount of chances against. The biggest change that the blue line needs is a new defensive coach and also head coach while we are at it!

Also Bobby Ryan is way better than Perrault, Thompson and Lewis. He can also play on any line and makes the same amount as Lewis. Need I say more?
- TheUltimateJet

I miss Buff so much. He was an extraordinary hockey player in so many ways. I also miss Chariot as I was a fan but that trade is what it is.

You Guys Suck. Paul Maurice has dragged that hamfisted lunch pail rag tag Motley Crue to the playoffs for years.
- DrunkenCanuck

It's kinda tough to hurl insults our way when the Canucks are playing as bad as they are and have gone nowhere in the playoffs in recent to distant memory.....and the Jets are top 8 in NHL power rankings and climbing.

The Jets were a goal/ bad penalty call- non-call, injury etc away from beating the Blues and likely winning the cup. A break here or there in a series where they got no breaks or bounces made all the difference.

In the Vegas series, the Jets entered the series with a rash of injuries while Vegas was totally fresh. The ice was already slanted. It's the nature of the beast in playoffs and why it's so hard to win the Cup. Many great teams have failed and I'd blame neither on the coach.

Heinola burns a year of his ELC whether he's with the Jets or the Moose (10 games), so not a point. At least my understanding of rules.

Heinola the 2nd best d-man already on the Jets? How do you know? What have you seen, when he's playing against men, that makes you think that?

Saying Heinola is the 2nd best d-man on the Jets is like saying Nate Thompson is the 2nd best forward on the team.

Oh I'm like a lot of you, want to see Heinola and Samberg on the big stage, but let's let them get some experience and confidence at the AHL level. Let them excel there - and then move them up. Better for both team and player. IMO!
- grahamzky

AHL games don't count so yes Heinola's ELC can be slid another year which is what I think Jets management hopes to do, if major injuries happen on the backend I do think they'll bite the bullet and callup Heinola but wouldn't be surprised if Samberg got the call first if he's playing well with the Moose and so far he has.

Heinola being the Jets 2nd best dman is my opinion based on what I've seen from him, the kid looks legit and Morrissey has mostly struggled so far this season, it's not a stretch to think Heinola is possibly the Jets 2nd best dman even though he's in the AHL, Pionk is clearly the Jets best dman now.

Good lord, saying Heinola is the Jets 2nd best dman is NOT AT ALL like saying Thompson is the Jets 2nd best forward.. Lol

Why waste time if one or both is ready??
I didn't mention Samberg at all btw.

It's kinda tough to hurl insults our way when the Canucks are playing as bad as they are and have gone nowhere in the playoffs in recent to distant memory.....and the Jets are top 8 in NHL power rankings and climbing.

The Jets were a goal/ bad penalty call- non-call, injury etc away from beating the Blues and likely winning the cup. A break here or there in a series where they got no breaks or bounces made all the difference.

In the Vegas series, the Jets entered the series with a rash of injuries while Vegas was totally fresh. The ice was already slanted. It's the nature of the beast in playoffs and why it's so hard to win the Cup. Many great teams have failed and I'd blame neither on the coach.
- jetsnation

So you agree? Good coach, mostly ignorant fanbase.

Lol!! What a wussy. I hope he’s okay. That was embarrassing.

So you agree? Good coach, mostly ignorant fanbase.
- DrunkenCanuck

Well if you call a person who drives a Lamborghini like a Chevy Cobalt a good coach, then yes he is a good coach. Even a Cobalt driver will surprise himself by winning many drag races in a Lamborghini. Mostly recognizing that it has nothing to do with his skill but the car itself.