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Anthony Travalgia
Joined: 05.07.2019

Jan 20 @ 10:19 AM ET
Anthony Travalgia: Jets bounce back with another comeback win A night after an ugly loss to the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Jets bounced back in Ottawa with another comeback win.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 20 @ 11:31 AM ET
Great article Anthony! It would have been nice if you had also given your impressions of my new favorite Jets defenseman, Logan Stanley! They said he was two years away from being two years away. Add those years up and its been 4 years. This guy is definitely trending upward.

Furthermore if my fellow Jets posters are correct about Heinola and Samberg, Morrissey might be expendable. We should have our left side nicely locked up with Stanley, Samberg and Heinola for many years to come!
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jan 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
Need Laine back and Roslovic (or something in return).

The 2nd PP unit is pukeworthy. The line of Copp/Perreault/Lowry doesn't have a scorer among them. Give Appleton and Harkins a shot...!
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jan 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
There is no doubt in my mind that Morrisey plays better with a Demelo or Trouba type of partner. Without either as a partner, Morrisey is just another average defenceman and last night, he stunk for 50 minutes. I agree with the previous poster, he might be expendable.

Kyle Connor is just getting better all the time. One thing that I am seeing him do now is protect the puck with his body which he did not do in previous years. That one timer right under the crossbar is pure eye candy.

The Jets had no business winning that game last night but they found a way. No doubt there is the rust factor to shake off but there didn't seem to be much interest in the first two periods.

Forbort / Beulieu appear in slow motion but at least there is some muscle there. Stanley at least brings some attitude and nastiness to the back end. I am reserving comment / judgment on his play until I see a larger sample but I am intrigued with big bird.
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jan 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
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jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jan 20 @ 2:44 PM ET
From what I’ve seen this year and last we need our goalies to have about a .930 and above save % to have a chance at overtime...

You can win in the NHL with some pretty average Dmen if you have a good system and buy-in, we appear to have neither.

The shots and quality shots given up is brutal
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
From what I’ve seen this year and last we need our goalies to have about a .930 and above save % to have a chance at overtime...

You can win in the NHL with some pretty average Dmen if you have a good system and buy-in, we appear to have neither.

The shots and quality shots given up is brutal

- jjonah



This is a really good post! I really appreciate the analysis behind it.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 20 @ 6:15 PM ET
Great article Anthony! It would have been nice if you had also given your impressions of my new favorite Jets defenseman, Logan Stanley! They said he was two years away from being two years away. Add those years up and its been 4 years. This guy is definitely trending upward.

Furthermore if my fellow Jets posters are correct about Heinola and Samberg, Morrissey might be expendable. We should have our left side nicely locked up with Stanley, Samberg and Heinola for many years to come!

- TheUltimateJet


I want Stanley to work out as much as the next fan but let's be realistic here. Stanley has only played two games at an average of approximately 8 minutes a game. He has also played a sheltered role where he doesn't face the other team's top lines or doesn't play much at all in the third period of tight games. He has held his own for now but it truly is a really small sample size in a sheltered role.

I think he'll be OK but I'm definitely not ready to reserve judgment on Stanley just yet.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 20 @ 6:22 PM ET
There is no doubt in my mind that Morrisey plays better with a Demelo or Trouba type of partner. Without either as a partner, Morrisey is just another average defenceman and last night, he stunk for 50 minutes. I agree with the previous poster, he might be expendable.

Kyle Connor is just getting better all the time. One thing that I am seeing him do now is protect the puck with his body which he did not do in previous years. That one timer right under the crossbar is pure eye candy.

The Jets had no business winning that game last night but they found a way. No doubt there is the rust factor to shake off but there didn't seem to be much interest in the first two periods.

Forbort / Beulieu appear in slow motion but at least there is some muscle there. Stanley at least brings some attitude and nastiness to the back end. I am reserving comment / judgment on his play until I see a larger sample but I am intrigued with big bird.

- Old Flopper


Flopper. You are contradicting yourself here regarding Morrissey. Your basically saying that without a good partner Morrissey is an average defenseman. Firstly I would debate that he is just an average defensman and he had a pretty good game last night capped off by a goal and an assist. However , anytime you pair even any top-notch defenseman with a lousy partner sh1t is going to happen and they also can't play their own game when they can't rely on thier partner as reliable backup. Throw Pietrangelo with Sami Niku or Nathan Beaulieu and it's not going to be pretty .
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 20 @ 6:27 PM ET
Need Laine back and Roslovic (or something in return).

The 2nd PP unit is pukeworthy. The line of Copp/Perreault/Lowry doesn't have a scorer among them. Give Appleton and Harkins a shot...!

- bennythehat


Perreault is a destroyer of lines for the last two years. I was 100% correct saying he needed to be traded after year 2-3 of his 5-year contract. I even question his ability on the 4th line these days.

Copp has picked up another gear this year. He appears a lot faster and must have really worked hard in the off-season. It shows.

I agree and would be happy to see Harkins on that line instead of Appleton. I see Mason as an expendable Jet.

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 20 @ 7:24 PM ET
I want Stanley to work out as much as the next fan but let's be realistic here. Stanley has only played two games at an average of approximately 8 minutes a game. He has also played a sheltered role where he doesn't face the other team's top lines or doesn't play much at all in the third period of tight games. He has held his own for now but it truly is a really small sample size in a sheltered role.

I think he'll be OK but I'm definitely not ready to reserve judgment on Stanley just yet.

- jetsnation


Would this argument not be the same one used for Heinola and Samberg?

Stanley is only going to get better as time moves forward. There will be growing pains and I am willing to ride them out for “Stan the Man”!

Go Jets Go!!!
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 20 @ 8:17 PM ET
Would this argument not be the same one used for Heinola and Samberg?

Stanley is only going to get better as time moves forward. There will be growing pains and I am willing to ride them out for “Stan the Man”!

Go Jets Go!!!

- TheUltimateJet


They are different types of defensemen. If I had to personally rate who will be the better of them in three years I would say Heinola because of his offensive skills and mobility. Samberg however also has the ability to be a beast of a player and has excellent hockey sense and can skate well. He will be top four for sure in another year or two but maybe on the right side unless Heinola can play there. So Stanley, the giant that he is maybe a third-pairing defenseman for a while. His biggest knock is his skating and mobility could still use some improvement.The problem is they ALL shoot left. My prediction on the Jets D two years out is this:

Morrissey - Poolman
Heinola - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk (maybe)
Stanley - ?

Pionk and Poolman are RFA's of which I think Poolman gets signed for sure. I think there will be some type of trade for a another right-hand defenseman.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Jan 20 @ 8:56 PM ET
Its time the Jets stop playing 2 checking lines that rarely do anything offensively. Stanley, Heinola, Samberg and Niku should rotate in as bottom pairing d-men in order to get some experience playing in the NHL. By the end of the season they will soon be better options than Beaulieu, and Forbort. Don't expect Maurice to sit those 2 on defense and Perreault, Thompson and Lewis on the forward lines.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 20 @ 9:33 PM ET
They are different types of defensemen. If I had to personally rate who will be the better of them in three years I would say Heinola because of his offensive skills and mobility. Samberg however also has the ability to be a beast of a player and has excellent hockey sense and can skate well. He will be top four for sure in another year or two but maybe on the right side unless Heinola can play there. So Stanley, the giant that he is maybe a third-pairing defenseman for a while. His biggest knock is his skating and mobility could still use some improvement.The problem is they ALL shoot left. My prediction on the Jets D two years out is this:

Morrissey - Poolman
Heinola - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk (maybe)
Stanley - ?

Pionk and Poolman are RFA's of which I think Poolman gets signed for sure. I think there will be some type of trade for a another right-hand defenseman.

- jetsnation


We already know Morrissey-Poolman as a pairing is very bad for both players.
I also worry putting Stanley with a guy that needs a defensive safety blanket might be a wrong move, as if Pionk gets caught doing something by risky, Stanley simply cannot make it back in time.

The ideal Jets blueline is as follows:
Morrissey-Heinola
Samberg-DeMelo
Forbort-Pionk
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 20 @ 9:34 PM ET
Flopper. You are contradicting yourself here regarding Morrissey. Your basically saying that without a good partner Morrissey is an average defenseman. Firstly I would debate that he is just an average defensman and he had a pretty good game last night capped off by a goal and an assist. However , anytime you pair even any top-notch defenseman with a lousy partner sh1t is going to happen and they also can't play their own game when they can't rely on thier partner as reliable backup. Throw Pietrangelo with Sami Niku or Nathan Beaulieu and it's not going to be pretty .
- jetsnation


It was worse with Poolman
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 20 @ 9:51 PM ET
They are different types of defensemen. If I had to personally rate who will be the better of them in three years I would say Heinola because of his offensive skills and mobility. Samberg however also has the ability to be a beast of a player and has excellent hockey sense and can skate well. He will be top four for sure in another year or two but maybe on the right side unless Heinola can play there. So Stanley, the giant that he is maybe a third-pairing defenseman for a while. His biggest knock is his skating and mobility could still use some improvement.The problem is they ALL shoot left. My prediction on the Jets D two years out is this:

Morrissey - Poolman
Heinola - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk (maybe)
Stanley - ?

Pionk and Poolman are RFA's of which I think Poolman gets signed for sure. I think there will be some type of trade for a another right-hand defenseman.

- jetsnation



Stanley does not need to worry too much about skating, especially someone his size. He plays an excellent positional game. Also not too sure how many of you guys pay attention to conditioning and weight. Stanley was listed at 267 lbs. last year, this year he is 237 lbs. And, from my understanding he trained with the fitness freak, Mark Scheifele himself all off-season.

I also find it interesting that folks are saying Samberg is better than Stanley despite him never playing a NHL game.


TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 20 @ 9:54 PM ET
Its time the Jets stop playing 2 checking lines that rarely do anything offensively. Stanley, Heinola, Samberg and Niku should rotate in as bottom pairing d-men in order to get some experience playing in the NHL. By the end of the season they will soon be better options than Beaulieu, and Forbort. Don't expect Maurice to sit those 2 on defense and Perreault, Thompson and Lewis on the forward lines.
- islansjet



Maurice has brainwashed Jets fans into believing in this top 6 bottom 6 nonsense. I strongly advocated to get a guy like Bobby Ryan in the offseason to help balance out the scoring. Last I checked Ryan already has 4 goals in three games for the hapless Wings. He’s also making the same money as Lewis and Thompson. The Jets also have to get rid of Lowry. That guy is so overrated.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 20 @ 10:27 PM ET
Maurice has brainwashed Jets fans into believing in this top 6 bottom 6 nonsense. I strongly advocated to get a guy like Bobby Ryan in the offseason to help balance out the scoring. Last I checked Ryan already has 4 goals in three games for the hapless Wings. He’s also making the same money as Lewis and Thompson. The Jets also have to get rid of Lowry. That guy is so overrated.
- TheUltimateJet


Meant to ask you about your boy B.Ryan, he's off to a good start eh?!..

Totally agree with your comment btw.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 20 @ 10:32 PM ET
They are different types of defensemen. If I had to personally rate who will be the better of them in three years I would say Heinola because of his offensive skills and mobility. Samberg however also has the ability to be a beast of a player and has excellent hockey sense and can skate well. He will be top four for sure in another year or two but maybe on the right side unless Heinola can play there. So Stanley, the giant that he is maybe a third-pairing defenseman for a while. His biggest knock is his skating and mobility could still use some improvement.The problem is they ALL shoot left. My prediction on the Jets D two years out is this:

Morrissey - Poolman
Heinola - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk (maybe)
Stanley - ?

Pionk and Poolman are RFA's of which I think Poolman gets signed for sure. I think there will be some type of trade for a another right-hand defenseman.

- jetsnation


Poolman is a UFA after this season

I think Poolman is better suited for third pair only and PK

I said earlier this year that Beaulieu needed to play a certain amount of games to fit expansion criteria, sadly I think the Jets are sacrificing our best roster to make this happen
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 20 @ 11:37 PM ET
Meant to ask you about your boy B.Ryan, he's off to a good start eh?!..

Totally agree with your comment btw.

- JetFuel



I love Bobby Ryan! He’s gone through so much personal turmoil and keeps persevering. Such a feel good story. Definitely the type of guy any team should want in their locker room and a type of player that teammates want to play for.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 21 @ 12:06 AM ET
We already know Morrissey-Poolman as a pairing is very bad for both players.
I also worry putting Stanley with a guy that needs a defensive safety blanket might be a wrong move, as if Pionk gets caught doing something by risky, Stanley simply cannot make it back in time.

The ideal Jets blueline is as follows:
Morrissey-Heinola
Samberg-DeMelo
Forbort-Pionk

- Rexypoo


I said two years from now. I doubt Fobort will be around and maybe Pionk won't be here as well. Heinola plays the left side.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 21 @ 12:09 AM ET
Poolman is a UFA after this season

I think Poolman is better suited for third pair only and PK

I said earlier this year that Beaulieu needed to play a certain amount of games to fit expansion criteria, sadly I think the Jets are sacrificing our best roster to make this happen

- Ross77


I stand corrected on Poolman. HockeyBUZz Cap Central has him listed as an RFA and that is where I looked at first. . I'd like to see him re-sign though.
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jan 21 @ 8:16 AM ET
Stanley does not need to worry too much about skating, especially someone his size. He plays an excellent positional game. Also not too sure how many of you guys pay attention to conditioning and weight. Stanley was listed at 267 lbs. last year, this year he is 237 lbs. And, from my understanding he trained with the fitness freak, Mark Scheifele himself all off-season.

I also find it interesting that folks are saying Samberg is better than Stanley despite him never playing a NHL game.

- TheUltimateJet


I had read that Stanley was listed at 242 last year and trimmed down to 228 this year. I think I read that in the Sun. Needless to say, the the message was that he was heavier last year and slimmed down significantly for this year and worked hard on conditoninng and skating as it is make or break time for him.

Its early in the season and we know there will be injuries so I would think that these D men like Niku, Stanley, Heinola, Samberg will be getting rotated in and out of the rotation as injury or covid protocol demands. You could look at it as the team having lots of D depth. I look at it as a positive.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:01 AM ET
I want Stanley to work out as much as the next fan but let's be realistic here. Stanley has only played two games at an average of approximately 8 minutes a game. He has also played a sheltered role where he doesn't face the other team's top lines or doesn't play much at all in the third period of tight games. He has held his own for now but it truly is a really small sample size in a sheltered role.

I think he'll be OK but I'm definitely not ready to reserve judgment on Stanley just yet.

- jetsnation


Like you say, small sample. However so far he has passed with flying colors. Finally found someone to stand up to the Tkachuks of the world.

I know it's out of necessity, but wonder if the Jets are showcasing Stanley and Niku to include in a major deal? Actually hope they keep Stanley, but as you say, let's see bigger minutes, maybe against a more dynamic team. Make a better judgment.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 21 @ 11:33 AM ET
I had read that Stanley was listed at 242 last year and trimmed down to 228 this year. I think I read that in the Sun. Needless to say, the the message was that he was heavier last year and slimmed down significantly for this year and worked hard on conditoninng and skating as it is make or break time for him.

Its early in the season and we know there will be injuries so I would think that these D men like Niku, Stanley, Heinola, Samberg will be getting rotated in and out of the rotation as injury or covid protocol demands. You could look at it as the team having lots of D depth. I look at it as a positive.

- Old Flopper


I was basing my numbers of hockey DB and wouldn’t you know it, they updated his weight to 228 lbs.
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