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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Leafs sloppy and sleepy in loss to Senators; Battle of Ontario, Part Deux
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:42 AM ET
Are you referring to that great play that was called a penalty where he clearly got the puck?
- winsix

No - the play where he fed Thornton for a goal.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:50 AM ET
Marner corralling the puck last night by laying his stick flat on the ice - anyone ever see that before?
- Atomic Wedgie


It's definitely in Marner's bag o tricks. I've seen him do it quite a few times.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:55 AM ET
No - the play where he fed Thornton for a goal.
- Atomic Wedgie


Great stretch pass from Brodie ..but Marner takes that pass off the wall by laying his stick down flat ...all in stride ...so good.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 17 @ 9:57 AM ET
No - the play where he fed Thornton for a goal.
- Atomic Wedgie


Just watched it again - was very good play.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:01 AM ET
LEAAAAAFSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 17 @ 10:02 AM ET
Sex phone
- Zezel


Funny how Spatso doesn't come around when Sens lose. He's the Jabba the Hutt of HB
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:05 AM ET
Funny how Spatso doesn't come around when Sens lose. He's the Jabba the Hutt of HB
- winsix

Funny innit

Wonder why wonder why

He's not gonna come around much this season
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jan 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
I completely forgot Dermott was playing
- Steven_Seagull

This is the Travis Dermott story.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:10 AM ET
Are you referring to that great play that was called a penalty where he clearly got the puck?
- winsix


Still a penalty.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:11 AM ET
This is the Travis Dermott story.
- mjones242

I thought that was good when D weren’t noticed?

The rules in here get so confusing at times
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jan 17 @ 10:13 AM ET
Still a penalty.
- Garnie

57.1 Tripping – A player shall not place the stick, knee, foot, arm, hand or elbow in such a manner that causes his opponent to trip or fall.

Accidental trips which occur simultaneously with a completed play will not be penalized. Accidental trips occurring simultaneously with or after a stoppage of play will not be penalized.


Shouldn't Marner's trip be considered "accidental"? What is a "completed play"?
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 17 @ 10:16 AM ET
I saw some good plays from Dermott last night, dudes got quick feet. He just looks a little spazzy, cuz he’s not quite sure what he wants to, or should do, but he seems to be quick enough to figure it out. It’s all about confidence, and I think he’ll continue to smooth out his game.

Overall, I thought the Leafs did a better job with defensive positioning.

I also have a feeling every game is going to be close. Looks like this division is going to be a bit of a crap shoot. Every game is important. Lose a game, drop 4 spots in the standings.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 17 @ 10:18 AM ET
57.1 Tripping – A player shall not place the stick, knee, foot, arm, hand or elbow in such a manner that causes his opponent to trip or fall.

Accidental trips which occur simultaneously with a completed play will not be penalized. Accidental trips occurring simultaneously with or after a stoppage of play will not be penalized.


Shouldn't Marner's trip be considered "accidental"? What is a "completed play"?

- mjones242

A play he started knowing the result would probably end up with him tripping the guy probably isn’t considered accidental.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:26 AM ET
57.1 Tripping – A player shall not place the stick, knee, foot, arm, hand or elbow in such a manner that causes his opponent to trip or fall.

Accidental trips which occur simultaneously with a completed play will not be penalized. Accidental trips occurring simultaneously with or after a stoppage of play will not be penalized.


Shouldn't Marner's trip be considered "accidental"? What is a "completed play"?

- mjones242

Guys step on sticks all the time and a penalty is called.

But I googled it, I’ll find it again shortly where they changed it so you can’t trip just because you touched the puck 1st
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 17 @ 10:30 AM ET
57.1 Tripping – A player shall not place the stick, knee, foot, arm, hand or elbow in such a manner that causes his opponent to trip or fall.

Accidental trips which occur simultaneously with a completed play will not be penalized. Accidental trips occurring simultaneously with or after a stoppage of play will not be penalized.


Shouldn't Marner's trip be considered "accidental"? What is a "completed play"?

- mjones242



It was a great play but I didn't have a problem with the call. There was a high hit on Matthews I think by Chabot that could have easily been a major. Campbell looked much more steady than Freddie in net and should get the next start IMO.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 17 @ 10:31 AM ET
I saw some good plays from Dermott last night, dudes got quick feet. He just looks a little spazzy, cuz he’s not quite sure what he wants to, or should do, but he seems to be quick enough to figure it out. It’s all about confidence, and I think he’ll continue to smooth out his game.

Overall, I thought the Leafs did a better job with defensive positioning.

I also have a feeling every game is going to be close. Looks like this division is going to be a bit of a crap shoot. Every game is important. Lose a game, drop 4 spots in the standings.

- Woderwick

I know many thought the leafs would dominate this division, but I stand by what I said prior to the season, the top teams will be separated by a couple of points. This will be a tight division.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 17 @ 10:32 AM ET
NYR vs Isles x2 - 0-4 and 5-0...

It's gonna be a weird season.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 17 @ 10:33 AM ET
Marner corralling the puck last night by laying his stick flat on the ice - anyone ever see that before?
- Atomic Wedgie

only when the pass is this level of awful
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 17 @ 10:33 AM ET
I know many thought the leafs would dominate this division, but I stand what I said prior to the season, the top teams will be separated by a couple of points. This will be a tight division.

- Fakepartofme

Dats hizzsh fazzsher
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
NYR vs Isles x2 - 0-4 and 5-0...

It's gonna be a weird season.

- 21peter

Oh yeah it is. The fact that every game is a 4 pointer.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jan 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
A play he started knowing the result would probably end up with him tripping the guy probably isn’t considered accidental.
- Woderwick

How can Marner know that his poke check would "probably" result in a trip though?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jan 17 @ 10:39 AM ET
Guys step on sticks all the time and a penalty is called.

But I googled it, I’ll find it again shortly where they changed it so you can’t trip just because you touched the puck 1st

- Garnie

Yeah, I found an article about the NHL adopting Hockey USA's (or whatever it's called) tripping protocol back in 14-15.

But the rule book doesn't make that explicitly clear. A quick glance at the rule book reveals that it's riddled with poor language, ambiguity, and lack of context. I guess there's still a lot of tribal knowledge afoot that isn't codified.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jan 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
It was a great play but I didn't have a problem with the call. There was a high hit on Matthews I think by Chabot that could have easily been a major. Campbell looked much more steady than Freddie in net and should get the next start IMO.
- winsix

Yeah, I actually wasn't overly bothered by that call to be honest. Just weird that this interpretation isn't more clear in the NHL's rule book.

I'm a bit perturbed that it seems to be open season on Matthews. Why isn't the NHL concerned about protecting its superstars? It's (frank)ed.

I would love to see Keefe go back to Jack on Monday. Hopefully, light a fire under Freddie and create an atmosphere of competition between him Campbell.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
57.1 Tripping – A player shall not place the stick, knee, foot, arm, hand or elbow in such a manner that causes his opponent to trip or fall.

Accidental trips which occur simultaneously with a completed play will not be penalized. Accidental trips occurring simultaneously with or after a stoppage of play will not be penalized.


Shouldn't Marner's trip be considered "accidental"? What is a "completed play"?

- mjones242


Yes, it was not a penalty
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 17 @ 10:53 AM ET
Guitar solo of the week a little rockabilly tune.

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