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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 27 @ 3:54 PM ET
Eklund: Source: Leafs Still Listening to Offers for Nylander from Flyers (e4)
Flyers4tw
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.29.2020

Nov 27 @ 3:55 PM ET
Ghost only Dman available. Doesn't make sense with how thin they are on D now.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Nov 27 @ 4:04 PM ET
Maybe the JVR + Ghost trade for Gaudreau fell apart. So they are offering that for Nylander now. JVR's best days were in Toronto. Ek, do you think this is the deal being discussed?

Or maybe it's just Nylander straight up for Ghost and then the Leafs sign Hoffman too. Hoffman is from just outside Toronto so that makes sense.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 27 @ 4:15 PM ET
Nylander for Ghost? (frank) off.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 27 @ 4:18 PM ET
Nylander for Hart and a 4th!!
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Nov 27 @ 4:28 PM ET
Eklund: Source: Leafs Still Listening to Offers for Nylander from Flyers (e4)
- Eklund

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Nov 27 @ 4:29 PM ET
Nylander for Hart and a 4th!!
- HenryHockey

HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 27 @ 4:34 PM ET
Nylander for Van Reimesdyk $3M retained) and Myers

Willie for Konecny and a 2nd

Willie for Linbolm and Myers

Wylie Nylie for Ghost and Nolan (if healthy)

Take your pick!
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Nov 27 @ 4:38 PM ET
Nylander for Van Reimesdyk $3M retained) and Myers

Willie for Konecny and a 2nd

Willie for Linbolm and Myers

Wylie Nylie for Ghost and Nolan (if healthy)

Take your pick!

- HenryHockey

HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 27 @ 4:43 PM ET

- gergeswillems


And what say you??? What would the Flyers have to give to get Willie?
And don't cop out and say you would not trade him!


mageejames40
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.20.2019

Nov 27 @ 4:43 PM ET
Are you drunk or mentally challenged?
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Nov 27 @ 4:46 PM ET
And what say you??? What would the Flyers have to give to get Willie?
And don't cop out and say you would not trade him!



- HenryHockey

I don't believe the Flyers are interested in acquiring Nylander nor do I believe Dubas is interested in trading him. The Leafs roster is set. Dubas already said it. I realize NHL GM's are compulsive liars. But if Dubas were trading Nylander it would've been before the draft. Flyers are likely more interested in trading for Laine.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
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Nov 27 @ 4:48 PM ET
I don't believe the Flyers are interested in acquiring Nylander nor do I believe Dubas is interested in trading him. The Leafs roster is set. Dubas already said it. I realize NHL GM's are compulsive liars. But if Dubas were trading Nylander it would've been before the draft. Flyers are likely more interested in trading for Laine.
- gergeswillems


Ok, not what I asked but it probably a more realistic answer.


FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Nov 27 @ 4:51 PM ET
A source being a #2 and the toilet paper.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Nov 27 @ 4:58 PM ET
First of all guys, if Ek is reporting this then obviously there is still some smoke here.

But one thing that makes zero sense to me, and would love Ek to explain it, is...

The Leafs reshaped the roster this offseason, threading the needle around the cap, adding a bunch of cheap guys like Spezza, Thornton, Simmonds, Vesey, Bogosian. I'm sure they would have liked to get a "better" upgrade on some of those roles, but they had no cap space. Now the roster is set. So you are telling me that after all that work they are going to ship Nylander and his $7M cap hit out the door for...who? It better be $7M coming back otherwise they did all of these cap gymnastics for nothing. So a deal like Nylander for Myers or Sanheim might make sense from a hockey standpoint, but it doesn't really help the Leafs right now. If they wanted to do that, then they would have done it far earlier, and used the extra cap space to make better signings than junk like Simmonds and Vesey. Philly isn't trading Proorov. The kids don't make sense. Ghost has negative value. So this makes absolutely zero sense to me.

But if Ek is hearing this then I guess its still on the table.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 27 @ 4:59 PM ET

- gergeswillems

Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Nov 27 @ 5:30 PM ET
Not a chance to any of those trades.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
Maybe the JVR + Ghost trade for Gaudreau fell apart. So they are offering that for Nylander now. JVR's best days were in Toronto. Ek, do you think this is the deal being discussed?

Or maybe it's just Nylander straight up for Ghost and then the Leafs sign Hoffman too. Hoffman is from just outside Toronto so that makes sense.

- Kooleus


Actually it doesn't. Taking on Gostisbehere and JVR adds 11.5M to the cap. Subtract Nylander at 6.9M and that has the end result of the Leafs taking on 4.5M. How do they do that when they're already over the limit?

Unless Hoffman is coming real cheap, that doesn't make sense either.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Nov 27 @ 6:34 PM ET
Hey I'm just connecting the dots since Ek has reported that JVR + Ghost were being offered for Gaudreau. So maybe the same for Nylander. Leafs could include Kerfoot to make the cap work better. Ek also said Hoffman might have to sign a cheaper 1-year deal. So Nylander for Ghost saves the Leafs $2.5M. They offer Hoffman $2.5M. He scores 50 goals with Matthews and Marner, and then he cashes in next year.

As I wrote earlier, I don't think any of this makes sense, but just connecting the dots on Ek's rumour. It's also an E4 so that's pretty high.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 6:44 PM ET
Hey I'm just connecting the dots since Ek has reported that JVR + Ghost were being offered for Gaudreau. So maybe the same for Nylander. Leafs could include Kerfoot to make the cap work better. Ek also said Hoffman might have to sign a cheaper 1-year deal. So Nylander for Ghost saves the Leafs $2.5M. They offer Hoffman $2.5M. He scores 50 goals with Matthews and Marner, and then he cashes in next year.

As I wrote earlier, I don't think any of this makes sense, but just connecting the dots on Ek's rumour. It's also an E4 so that's pretty high.

- Kooleus


Yea, no offense but you're still not making sense. Hoffman isn't signing for 2.5M. Chances are Hoffman already has a deal in principle made and is just waiting for a team to clear space.
Jeffers33
Calgary Flames
Location: Claresholm, AB
Joined: 07.23.2015

Nov 27 @ 6:53 PM ET
If Leafs are open to trading Nylander then I think Calgary should get in on the discussion: Maybe a three team trade like this

Calgary - William Nylander 31 G 28 A 59 Pts
New Jersey - Johnny Gaudreau 18 G 40 A 58 Pts
Toronto - Kyle Palmieri 25 G 20 A 45 Pts

Toronto saves 2.3 Million in cap space they can put toward a defenseman and Palmeiri potentially improves point totals playing with better players. Calgary gets Nylander for 4 years and brings with him the hopes that Nylander can score more in the playoffs and New Jersey gets a very skilled and talented home talent who will likely re-sign after 2 years. There may have to be other bits and pieces but this is the main part of what I think would be a win-win-win.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Nov 27 @ 6:54 PM ET
Not many teams have $5-6M to sign Hoffman. He might have to accept a $2.5M deal and hope to put up big numbers and cash in when Covid is in the rear view mirror. Ek has already hinted at this. Also remember that it isn't just Hoffman...if he demands $6M then you can look at Duclair, Granlund, Sheary, Frolik, Athanasiou, Haula. Lots of guys are looking for a job. Look at defense - Vatanen, Hamonic. I think Chara is staying in Boston but Ek said he is in play, big time.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Nov 27 @ 6:56 PM ET
If Leafs are open to trading Nylander then I think Calgary should get in on the discussion: Maybe a three team trade like this

Calgary - William Nylander 31 G 28 A 59 Pts
New Jersey - Johnny Gaudreau 18 G 40 A 58 Pts
Toronto - Kyle Palmieri 25 G 20 A 45 Pts

Toronto saves 2.3 Million in cap space they can put toward a defenseman and Palmeiri potentially improves point totals playing with better players. Calgary gets Nylander for 4 years and brings with him the hopes that Nylander can score more in the playoffs and New Jersey gets a very skilled and talented home talent who will likely re-sign after 2 years. There may have to be other bits and pieces but this is the main part of what I think would be a win-win-win.

- Jeffers33



You might be on to something. Nylander was born in Calgary. Although so was Taylor Hall. Wondering if Ek has heard rumours about Nylander and the Flames? Maybe an E2?
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 27 @ 7:05 PM ET
I can’t tell who’s being serious and who’s just making fun of EK and his nonsensical, non-existent trade rumours

But we can all agree that JVR is one of the worst contracts in the league, right? If you attached two first-round picks to that deal, it might get you a fourth line player with one year left on his deal. And Ghost also has negative value, so to suggest that would be the return for Nylander, a guy who would have been close to 40 goals this year, and is signed to a long term deal with a reasonable cap hit, is as dumb as Ek’s blog

The Leafs have already put all their pieces in place. If there was a deal, it would have been a month ago. And it would have been something like Sanheim or Myers + picks / prospects for Willy
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 27 @ 7:15 PM ET
Nylander for Ghost? (frank) off.
- Steven_Seagull

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