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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Nov 23 @ 10:47 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Examining the worst move made by each Canadian team
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
In the case of Holtby, it's worth noting that the drop-off in his numbers coincided pretty closely with Korn leaving Washington and going to the Isles. There's something to be said for the impact of truly great goalie coaches like Korn and- while not quite as well thought of- Vancouver's has a solid reputation. I wouldn't be surprised if Holtby saw a bounceback of sorts with some limitation on account of the Canucks' less-than-ideal defensive play.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
Thanks Todd.

@Max Bone Hey man! Hope all is wel!

How do you see the standings playing out in the all Canadian division?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
Thanks Todd.

@Max Bone Hey man! Hope all is wel!

How do you see the standings playing out in the all Canadian division?

- DuranDuran

EDM
TO
CGY-VAN
MTL
WPG
OTT
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Examining the worst move made by each Canadian team
- ToddCordellCGY


The Domi for Anderson trade, followed by the 7 year extension made me cringe. I am impartial to both teams, but Anderson has not played good hockey in 2 years, and is fresh off of major surgery. I don't like this gamble. Edmundson is a good D, at a slight over payment. I don't mind it, and it looks like a gamble similar to Chiarot, who had a very strong season. Anderson essentially could be the final straw to break Bergevains back.

As for the Holtby deal, I don't mind it. The guy has done enough in his career to earn the befenfit of a down season. They were in a very tough position with Markstrom and Demko, and now they have a proven vet to shelter their future deal. That being said, they really didn't leave Todd with many options, as their only other addition seemed to be Schmidt, who is well worth it.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Nov 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
Me Todd. defensive player bad.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Nov 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
Me Todd. defensive player bad.
- fry


I stopped believing in Todd and his fancy math after the Flames signed Brouwer. Todd said it was going to be a disaster. Could not have been farther from the truth!

When are we retiring Brouwers jersey?
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Nov 23 @ 4:21 PM ET
I stopped believing in Todd and his fancy math after the Flames signed Brouwer. Todd said it was going to be a disaster. Could not have been farther from the truth!

When are we retiring Brouwers jersey?

- DuranDuran


Also, called the Neal trade a loss. Hopefully a couple years after he retires so he won’t have to wait too long.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Nov 23 @ 4:40 PM ET
Thanks Todd.

@Max Bone Hey man! Hope all is wel!

How do you see the standings playing out in the all Canadian division?

- DuranDuran


1 Calgary
2 Flames
3 Gio’s Giants
4 Stockton Heat
5 Flames Alumni
6 Who Cares
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 23 @ 4:49 PM ET
Thanks Todd.

@Max Bone Hey man! Hope all is wel!

How do you see the standings playing out in the all Canadian division?

- DuranDuran

Hola! Things are going great; I hope the same for you

MTL
TOR
CGY
EDM
VAN
WPG

OTT

With all the bolded being within reach of one another that a significant injury on either team would shift them around.

CGY's main improvement comes at a notoriously fluid position and will be relying on Tanev's health to hold-up the right side depth behind Andersson. Then there's three teams that ought to have potent offenses (though I set Vancouver's as a step below the other two) but all have at least one significant deficiency in their team's defensive zone construction:

EDM has Smith, is relying on Jones to step up, and Bear to not regress
VAN has ?s in goal, suspect blueline depth, and can't have Hughes slump
WPG has to hope for their prospects can support their NHL Dmen

For clarity, I give CGY the edge over these three since they're relying on more proven commodities at key positions. At the very least, there are 5 teams that will likely see themselves involved in a disproportionately large number of high-scoring games, so it should be fun at least!

How about you? Where do you stand on how these teams stack up?
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 23 @ 7:11 PM ET
It’s telling that, in a list of Bergevin’s worst moves, the 7-year contract to Anderson and the trade of a 2nd round pick for a back-up goalie in the most flooded goalie market in league history didn’t make the list

Gmo3000
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 9:24 PM ET
with the Flames signing Tanev it is not the worst move they have ever made
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Nov 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
Chevy is a disappointment, sorry but the guy gets way too much credit, is given tons of rope cause he's the GM of a team that yes struggles to attract free agents and is on most no trade lists but for f*ck sakes it's not like every player in the league has trade protection! He EASILY could've made the D.Toews or R.Murray trades but nope he just sat on the sidelines like he usually does, his drafting outside of the 1st round has been really weak(and overrated) and his biggest blunder so far has been his mishandling of Laine, when the smallest market team in the league has a superstar dropped in their lap their GM should be doing whatever it takes to sign him long term and keep him happy but nope Chevy is too busy taking another Dayoff at the cottage!

I'll give his offseason moves a D+ grade, coming back with essentially the exact same D core is pathetic.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 24 @ 2:55 AM ET
In the case of Holtby, it's worth noting that the drop-off in his numbers coincided pretty closely with Korn leaving Washington and going to the Isles. There's something to be said for the impact of truly great goalie coaches like Korn and- while not quite as well thought of- Vancouver's has a solid reputation. I wouldn't be surprised if Holtby saw a bounceback of sorts with some limitation on account of the Canucks' less-than-ideal defensive play.
- MaximumBone

Ian Clark will get his game going.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 24 @ 1:28 PM ET
Ian Clark will get his game going.
- Nighthawk

Yep.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
It’s telling that, in a list of Bergevin’s worst moves, the 7-year contract to Anderson and the trade of a 2nd round pick for a back-up goalie in the most flooded goalie market in league history didn’t make the list
- AxlRose91


Agreed. Terrible use of cap space for a team that is not being favored to make the playoffs.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Nov 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
Hola! Things are going great; I hope the same for you

MTL
TOR
CGY
EDM
VAN
WPG

OTT

With all the bolded being within reach of one another that a significant injury on either team would shift them around.

CGY's main improvement comes at a notoriously fluid position and will be relying on Tanev's health to hold-up the right side depth behind Andersson. Then there's three teams that ought to have potent offenses (though I set Vancouver's as a step below the other two) but all have at least one significant deficiency in their team's defensive zone construction:

EDM has Smith, is relying on Jones to step up, and Bear to not regress
VAN has ?s in goal, suspect blueline depth, and can't have Hughes slump
WPG has to hope for their prospects can support their NHL Dmen

For clarity, I give CGY the edge over these three since they're relying on more proven commodities at key positions. At the very least, there are 5 teams that will likely see themselves involved in a disproportionately large number of high-scoring games, so it should be fun at least!

How about you? Where do you stand on how these teams stack up?

- MaximumBone



Hey man. Glad all is going well for you.

To tell you the truth every team has question marks for me.

Montreal looks to be the sleeper. Their young guys can just play and have fun. No expectations. Price will be in top form.

Toronto has too much pressure. They will slide. Brodie will get eaten alive by the TO media.

Edmonton made some good moves. McD will be unstoppable. Smith will be the starter by mid season and then lose his mojo with 1/4 of the season left.

Calgary. Hoping that they can break p the top line and that JG and SM can find mojo with other players. I also expect Gio to have a bounce back season.

Van looks good. They play hard and have good young talent.

Winnepeg should also be in most games but their D is pretty weak.


My list.

Edmonton
Van
Montreal
Calgary
Toronto
Winnipeg
Ottawa
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Nov 25 @ 8:50 PM ET
Ian Clark will get his game going.
- Nighthawk

I’m suprised Treliving hasn’t tried to sign him.
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Nov 26 @ 5:23 PM ET
Hey man. Glad all is going well for you.

To tell you the truth every team has question marks for me.

Montreal looks to be the sleeper. Their young guys can just play and have fun. No expectations. Price will be in top form.

Toronto has too much pressure. They will slide. Brodie will get eaten alive by the TO media.

Edmonton made some good moves. McD will be unstoppable. Smith will be the starter by mid season and then lose his mojo with 1/4 of the season left.

Calgary. Hoping that they can break p the top line and that JG and SM can find mojo with other players. I also expect Gio to have a bounce back season.

Van looks good. They play hard and have good young talent.

Winnepeg should also be in most games but their D is pretty weak.


My list.

Edmonton
Van
Montreal
Calgary
Toronto
Winnipeg
Ottawa

- DuranDuran


Duran I think you are on crack or to much South American Tang has got you messed up.

Calgary- Top Line will rebound, a legit #1 goaltender
Toronto- A toss up between Edm and TO for second, which team outscores better
Edmonton
Vancouver Goaltending will be a issue
Winnipeg Darkhorse depending if they are healthy
Montreal (frank) Montreal they suck a donkey Richard
Ottawa Senators might surprise
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Nov 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
Duran I think you are on crack or to much South American Tang has got you messed up.

Calgary- Top Line will rebound, a legit #1 goaltender
Toronto- A toss up between Edm and TO for second, which team outscores better
Edmonton
Vancouver Goaltending will be a issue
Winnipeg Darkhorse depending if they are healthy
Montreal (frank) Montreal they suck a donkey Richard
Ottawa Senators might surprise

- FlamesFan1230


Hey FF,

Every team has question marks. I hope we see the end of JG and SM on the same line. Has not worked for over a season now. They can play together on the PP.

I think Edmonton will do better than TO. TO is just too toxic with the fans and media.

Montreal and Van really have no high expectations and have good youth. Kinda like how things were in Calgary till they finished first,



K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Nov 29 @ 10:26 AM ET
There won’t be any NHL this year! Try to change my mind.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Nov 30 @ 11:20 PM ET
There won’t be any NHL this year! Try to change my mind.
- K-man25



Not that much of a bold statement when there is only 31 days left this year.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Dec 1 @ 6:00 PM ET
Not that much of a bold statement when there is only 31 days left this year.
- DuranDuran

bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Dec 5 @ 1:51 AM ET
Not that much of a bold statement when there is only 31 days left this year.
- DuranDuran


Haha this is very true!
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Dec 5 @ 8:54 AM ET
Did Todd Quit?

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