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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Nov 19 @ 10:24 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Reading Royals, NHL Return to Play, HOF Week, TIFH
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 19 @ 10:40 AM ET
I hope there is a season this year. But I would understand if there wasn’t. Just so many variables and a vaccine will not get to the masses until mid next year if we are lucky.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 19 @ 10:41 AM ET
As an "employee" they should realize that their jobs depend on the health of the "employer" It's not as if there is another league that they can play in. Minimum salaried players will obviously be hurt the most but 60% is still a good living for those players.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
Sixers had a good night last night. Can we let them run the Eagles offseason too?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
Sixers had a good night last night. Can we let them run the Eagles offseason too?
- hereticpride


In Morey we trust!
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 19 @ 12:20 PM ET
As an "employee" they should realize that their jobs depend on the health of the "employer" It's not as if there is another league that they can play in. Minimum salaried players will obviously be hurt the most but 60% is still a good living for those players.
- MJL


As I read it, it's a salary deferment not a pay cut. I dont know the specifics of the agreement, but I'd imagine there's a very specific payment schedule. Isn't some of it in escrow? Players need to suck it up for a little while.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Nov 19 @ 12:39 PM ET
Sixers had a good night last night. Can we let them run the Eagles offseason too?
- hereticpride

Seriously. Morey saw issues and attended to them. Are they fixed? Who knows. But he did attend to them.

Really like Seth with the team we have around him. He’s gonna feast, and now Embiid should stay down where he belongs.

Not bad dumping that Horford deal, either.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 19 @ 12:45 PM ET
Love the Sixers moves. Heck if all they did was just dump Horford's contract I'd have been ok. But adding Curry and Green. Nice job. Richardson was a nice player, just a bit too inconsistent.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
As I read it, it's a salary deferment not a pay cut. I dont know the specifics of the agreement, but I'd imagine there's a very specific payment schedule. Isn't some of it in escrow? Players need to suck it up for a little while.
- Dkos


Escrow is a lost cause for the players. Virtually guaranteed they're gonna lose all of it next season, so that's ~15% of their salary right there. Maybe more.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
Seriously. Morey saw issues and attended to them. Are they fixed? Who knows. But he did attend to them.

Really like Seth with the team we have around him. He’s gonna feast, and now Embiid should stay down where he belongs.

Not bad dumping that Horford deal, either.

- Hesh_


The Horford dump was fantastic. Nothing against the player, just didn't fit here at all.

I also like the kid they drafted out of Kentucky.

Thank you Houston Rockets owner for letting us have Daryl Morey.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Nov 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
Seriously. Morey saw issues and attended to them. Are they fixed? Who knows. But he did attend to them.

Really like Seth with the team we have around him. He’s gonna feast, and now Embiid should stay down where he belongs.

Not bad dumping that Horford deal, either.

- Hesh_

Brand should retire as Morey undid all his prior moves. Micic if he comes over will be a quality player. Would have liked to see him stay.

They cleared up cap space My guess is something else in the works. East gonna be very tough.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
JVR was the best O player last year


https://www.broadstreetho...sis-hey-he-was-ok-i-guess
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
As I read it, it's a salary deferment not a pay cut. I dont know the specifics of the agreement, but I'd imagine there's a very specific payment schedule. Isn't some of it in escrow? Players need to suck it up for a little while.
- Dkos


Its a business -no "should" or "need."

They are expected to extract ever penny they can get over the course of their playing careers. And owners the reverse.

No malice or love, no feelings. Just the way it is supposed to work.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 19 @ 2:29 PM ET
Its a business -no "should" or "need."

They are expected to extract ever penny they can get over the course of their playing careers. And owners the reverse.

No malice or love, no feelings. Just the way it is supposed to work.

- PT21

Yeah. Tough making hundreds of thousands to millions playing a game. I more see how it impacts the lower leagues. But still. How many are still out of work making close to nothing.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:28 PM ET
Yeah. Tough making hundreds of thousands to millions playing a game. I more see how it impacts the lower leagues. But still. How many are still out of work making close to nothing.
- Peter Richards


I am not sure I exactly see what you are saying. NHL Players taking less will not impact the minor league players, unless they can come up with some sort of compensation scheme where savings from NHL players will benefit the AHL players and so on. I doubt it, given the low leverage of the latter.

Depending on such ad hoc charity for dire situations is not very effective. In every developed country I am aware of, Covid unemployment assistance is significantly more generous than here, and significantly more sustained.

In most western European countries government has stepped in like an insurer, paying employers to keep employees at about 80% of salaries. In Canada, unemployment assistance was much more prompt and sustained. I haven't checked recently what the Canadian unemployment rate is but a few weeks ago, unemployment rates in western Europe had risen 1%, whereas in the US, it had risen 8% due to the pandemic.

Its hardly the players fault that the such institutionalized response does not exist here.




MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 19 @ 3:36 PM ET
I am not sure I exactly see what you are saying. NHL Players taking less will not impact the minor league players, unless they can come up with some sort of compensation scheme where savings from NHL players will benefit the AHL players and so on. I doubt it, given the low leverage of the latter.

Depending on such ad hoc charity for dire situations is not very effective. In every developed country I am aware of, Covid unemployment assistance is significantly more generous than here, and significantly more sustained.

In most western European countries government has stepped in like an insurer, paying employers to keep employees at about 80% of salaries. In Canada, unemployment assistance was much more prompt and sustained. I haven't checked recently what the Canadian unemployment rate is but a few weeks ago, unemployment rates in western Europe had risen 1%, whereas in the US, it had risen 8% due to the pandemic.

Its hardly the players fault that the such institutionalized response does not exist here.

- PT21


Canada has 37 million people. And the US has 337 million, just sayin.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:49 PM ET
Canada has 37 million people. And the US has 337 million, just sayin.
- MBFlyerfan


Unemployment rates are measured in percentages, which are independent of absolute numbers of people in the labor force.

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 19 @ 4:37 PM ET

Did the owners just ask for too much in an attempt to save time in negotiations? I didn’t like that they wouldn’t admit that this season would not have the full number of games played. Everyone thought that since March. It is pretty valid to wonder how revenue projections from late this summer could be so far off. Were they being excessively optimistic about this season?

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 5:01 PM ET
Sixers had a good night last night. Can we let them run the Eagles offseason too?
- hereticpride

they'll screw it up
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 5:02 PM ET
I am not sure I exactly see what you are saying. NHL Players taking less will not impact the minor league players, unless they can come up with some sort of compensation scheme where savings from NHL players will benefit the AHL players and so on. I doubt it, given the low leverage of the latter.

Depending on such ad hoc charity for dire situations is not very effective. In every developed country I am aware of, Covid unemployment assistance is significantly more generous than here, and significantly more sustained.

In most western European countries government has stepped in like an insurer, paying employers to keep employees at about 80% of salaries. In Canada, unemployment assistance was much more prompt and sustained. I haven't checked recently what the Canadian unemployment rate is but a few weeks ago, unemployment rates in western Europe had risen 1%, whereas in the US, it had risen 8% due to the pandemic.

Its hardly the players fault that the such institutionalized response does not exist here.

- PT21

and yet people still wanted to vote for trump

you get the government you deserve
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
sixers should be ok hopefully those players can hit a 3 to pull pressure off of embid
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Nov 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
sixers should be ok hopefully those players can hit a 3 to pull pressure off of embid
- 2Real

When Simmons passes it down low, or he (or Harris) drives to the the hoop, Seth Curry will be a godsend really to pop the shot. To a lesser degree, Green, but one should he open.

There’s potential there.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 19 @ 5:15 PM ET
When Simmons passes it down low, or he (or Harris) drives to the the hoop, Seth Curry will be a godsend really to pop the shot. To a lesser degree, Green, but one should he open.

There’s potential there.

- Hesh_



Has there been a starting point guard in the history of the league who will not/cannot shoot?
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Nov 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
and yet people still wanted to vote for trump

you get the government you deserve

- 2Real

indeed, cant wait for the Harris poop show. Hopefully it is entertaining
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 19 @ 5:24 PM ET
I am not sure I exactly see what you are saying. NHL Players taking less will not impact the minor league players, unless they can come up with some sort of compensation scheme where savings from NHL players will benefit the AHL players and so on. I doubt it, given the low leverage of the latter.

Depending on such ad hoc charity for dire situations is not very effective. In every developed country I am aware of, Covid unemployment assistance is significantly more generous than here, and significantly more sustained.

In most western European countries government has stepped in like an insurer, paying employers to keep employees at about 80% of salaries. In Canada, unemployment assistance was much more prompt and sustained. I haven't checked recently what the Canadian unemployment rate is but a few weeks ago, unemployment rates in western Europe had risen 1%, whereas in the US, it had risen 8% due to the pandemic.

Its hardly the players fault that the such institutionalized response does not exist here.

- PT21


Yeah not what I was saying. Don’t feel bad if those making millions to play a game have to take a pay cut. Those in the ahl do not make nearly as much as nhl players. Not sure what the salaries in the lower leagues are. And there are people in far worse positions.
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