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Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Nov 6 @ 4:33 PM ET
Ben Shelley: With Ryan Pulock signed, the focus turns to Mathew Barzal’s contract
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 6 @ 6:01 PM ET
I see Barzal at around 7 mill per on a two year deal. I see Boychuck being moved with a second to create the necessary space for Barzal, Martin, Schneider. This would leave about 750 to a mil in cap space.
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Nov 6 @ 6:36 PM ET
I see Barzal at around 7 mill per on a two year deal. I see Boychuck being moved with a second to create the necessary space for Barzal, Martin, Schneider. This would leave about 750 to a mil in cap space.
- Nfdbulldawg


That would be great, but I'd say moving only a second-round pick with Boychuk is a pretty optimistic prediction.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 6 @ 8:01 PM ET
That would be great, but I'd say moving only a second-round pick with Boychuk is a pretty optimistic prediction.
- Ben Shelley


And you’d be correct.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 6 @ 8:47 PM ET
And you’d be correct.
- Wildschwein

Do you think we would have to add Komarov?
flyer4ever75
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 6 @ 9:13 PM ET
Nick Leddy, Clutterbuck, Wahlstrom and a 2nd for a 7th. No NTC/NMC on these players.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 6 @ 9:26 PM ET
Do you think we would have to add Komarov?
- Cptmjl


Don’t speak such blasphemies!
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 6 @ 9:29 PM ET
Nick Leddy, Clutterbuck, Wahlstrom and a 2nd for a 7th. No NTC/NMC on these players.
- flyer4ever75




Leddy is a damn fine D on an affordable deal. That and he’s needed now that Toews is gone.

So no.

Thus, I shall counter with Boychuk, Bellows and a 2nd for Hägg.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 6 @ 10:23 PM ET
That would be great, but I'd say moving only a second-round pick with Boychuk is a pretty optimistic prediction.
- Ben Shelley

Boychuk/1st/retain 1m would be a min.
Nobody is moving out 2yr cap dumps easily.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 7 @ 6:48 AM ET
That would be great, but I'd say moving only a second-round pick with Boychuk is a pretty optimistic prediction.
- Ben Shelley


You make it sound as if we are try to trade Ladd with a second rounder. Boychuk can still play. Granted he is a not a top four 4 guy anymore. You are trading for cap space.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 7 @ 7:03 AM ET
Nick Leddy, Clutterbuck, Wahlstrom and a 2nd for a 7th. No NTC/NMC on these players.
- flyer4ever75

HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 7 @ 8:46 AM ET
Stevie sez: Clutterbuck, Hickey and a 1st for Cholowski
Then Stevie will flip Cal back to you w/ $1.75M retained for a 2nd
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 7 @ 8:54 AM ET
If Boychuk waives his NTC to go to Detroit:
Boychuk, Wahlstrom, and a 3rd for Cholowski
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Nov 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
You have to bridge him.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 7 @ 10:57 AM ET
If Boychuk waives his NTC to go to Detroit:
Boychuk, Wahlstrom, and a 3rd for Cholowski

- HenryHockey


Boychuk, Ho Sang and a 3rd for Cholowski
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 7 @ 2:16 PM ET
I see Barzal at around 7 mill per on a two year deal. I see Boychuck being moved with a second to create the necessary space for Barzal, Martin, Schneider. This would leave about 750 to a mil in cap space.
- Nfdbulldawg


Barzal is worth more than 7M. I'd have him closer to 8.5M AAV, and if the isles only ink him to a 2 year deal, you'd better be prepared for him to walk after that. 2 years from now, the Isles have 8 guys averaging 32 years of age, most with multiple years left on their deal. Are you confident he will still want to be on the team in 2 years? I'd say no, so ink him to a 6+ year deal ASAP.

If Tyler Johnson, and Fleury, are both rumored for being traded with a 1st rd pick, no way someone takes Boychuck for a 2nd. I think he is still a good player, but this cap crunch has brought the most bizarre trade market to date. Leddy 750k retained and a 2nd would probably find a trading partner.
flyer4ever75
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 8 @ 11:27 AM ET


Leddy is a damn fine D on an affordable deal. That and he’s needed now that Toews is gone.

So no.

Thus, I shall counter with Boychuk, Bellows and a 2nd for Hägg.

- Wildschwein


This wasn't a deal with Philly, it was anybody. But since you countered why would Philly do this? Bellows is 22 and hasn't done anything. I would barely do that trade 2nd and Bellows for Haag (although it probably is a slightly better value for Philly). Having said that, in no way is it enough to take Boychuk's contract.

I realize Leddy is better, but the reason I made that proposal is because none of the players needed to agree (NTC/NMC) and it clears $9M. Otherwise a team could just offer sheet Barzal. Who would you rather have - Leddy, Clutterbuck and Walhstrom, or Barzal?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:09 PM ET

- Cptmjl



Seems logical no?
flyer4ever75
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 9 @ 8:02 AM ET
Seems logical no?
- nyisles7


Good point. I guess that's why they already traded Boychuk and received a 1st in return....