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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
I’m with you on that. I would hate to see 3-4 million used on players along those lines when we could’ve applied that to Toews. I get it we need to fill the bottom six but just plug Johnston in there and hope Wahlstrom can slot in on the third line. Always liked Martin but it’s time to move on IMO.
- Cptmjl


Wahlstrom on the 3rd line is almost a must especially this year with the Cap and being on a line with Pageau can only help.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 25 @ 3:22 PM ET
Really cannot argue with the success of Lou these two years with the Isles. The Leo and Hickey signings were dumb though.
- ses111


I don't mind Hickey as a 7th defenseman. However I don't like his $2.5 pricetag.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 25 @ 3:27 PM ET
I’m with you on that. I would hate to see 3-4 million used on players along those lines when we could’ve applied that to Toews. I get it we need to fill the bottom six but just plug Johnston in there and hope Wahlstrom can slot in on the third line. Always liked Martin but it’s time to move on IMO.
- Cptmjl


We've discussed this before. I like Martin and I think it would be nice if he came back to the organization in some other capacity. He was effective for the Isles years ago, but I think its time to move on.

I think Lou likes him a lot and will re-sign him. I just hope its in the $1 smilll range but I highly doubt it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 25 @ 3:27 PM ET
I don't mind Hickey as a 7th defenseman. However I don't like his $2.5 pricetag.
- JimmyP


Agreed. Hickey is fine as a 7th just not the deal he received.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 25 @ 3:29 PM ET
We've discussed this before. I like Martin and I think it would be nice if he came back to the organization in some other capacity. He was effective for the Isles years ago, but I think its time to move on.

I think Lou likes him a lot and will re-sign him. I just hope its in the $1 smilll range but I highly doubt it.

- JimmyP


Yep! Always liked Matt as a person and a player but the current Cap and the Cap in a Covid world changes everything. Cannot imagine the Isles collapsing if Ross has to play on the 4th line.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:54 PM ET
Must be the same people that have rated our President..........

- HenryHockey


Could very well be. However you cannot argue the results....
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:56 PM ET
I agree with most of your post, but in the interest of accuracy........ Hickey was re-signed to his current contract by Lou, not Snow.
- JohnScammo


Thank you for the clarification. I sit corrected on that one.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:58 PM ET
Wahlstrom on the 3rd line is almost a must especially this year with the Cap and being on a line with Pageau can only help.
- ses111


That could become a nice combination if they are allowed to develop together.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 25 @ 4:07 PM ET
That could become a nice combination if they are allowed to develop together.
- Nfdbulldawg


Line could generate some nice offense and will only help the Isles to have a productive 3rd line.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 26 @ 8:42 AM ET
love that fans of teams who were worst in the league last year are chirping Isles contracts... lol.

Lou almost always uses all his time when signing free agents. He did the same thing last year and Staple brought it up over and over again. Some contracts are already done but not processed to protect from another team offer sheeting Barzal and/or Pulock. Yes.. one contract will be moved..eventually. I would rather Leo or Cal instead of Boychuk but I think it will be Johnny b/c they have made it clear to him he will not be in the starting 6 if all are healthy.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 26 @ 8:44 AM ET
I don't mind Hickey as a 7th defenseman. However I don't like his $2.5 pricetag.
- JimmyP



ok.. I agree.. but how much is he worth? would 1.5 be a fair number? So we are paying him 800k more than he is worth... now do Mayfield.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 26 @ 8:45 AM ET
We've discussed this before. I like Martin and I think it would be nice if he came back to the organization in some other capacity. He was effective for the Isles years ago, but I think its time to move on.

I think Lou likes him a lot and will re-sign him. I just hope its in the $1 smilll range but I highly doubt it.

- JimmyP



Martin and Greene have already agreed to a contract. it will be processed when they are done with Pulock and Barzal. Pulock b/c of his arbitration hearing should be done within a week. I don't expect it to go to Arb.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 26 @ 8:48 AM ET
I really hope they don't re-sign Martin.
- JimmyP



too late.. according to Staple's recent story it's already agreed on and done.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 26 @ 10:36 AM ET
ok.. I agree.. but how much is he worth? would 1.5 be a fair number? So we are paying him 800k more than he is worth... now do Mayfield.
- niteislander


If $1.5 would be fair then they are paying him $1,000,000 more than he's worth.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 26 @ 10:36 AM ET
too late.. according to Staple's recent story it's already agreed on and done.
- niteislander



Damn! I knew I should have called Lou sooner to talk him out of it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:39 AM ET
If $1.5 would be fair then they are paying him $1,000,000 more than he's worth.
- JimmyP


I know Barry did not coach Hickey yet but it seemed clear his time as a regular dman was coming to an end and his best spot was as a 7th. Hickey did not seem like a Lou and Barry type dman. Leo and Hickey should have been offered no more than 2 years. What teams would have been willing to go 4 years?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 26 @ 10:51 AM ET
Can't wait till we have Zib and Barzal down the middle.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:55 AM ET
Can't wait till we have Zib and Barzal down the middle.
- mdw7413




Be careful MDW. You saw what happened to the last team who took our star center.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 26 @ 11:01 AM ET


Be careful MDW. You saw what happened to the last team who took our star center.

- ses111



I can't believe people were even thinking it was a possibility. I guess it was just something for people to debate during the down time but was not even remotely realistic
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 26 @ 11:06 AM ET


I can't believe people were even thinking it was a possibility. I guess it was just something for people to debate during the down time but was not even remotely realistic

- mdw7413


Rumors around the Isles are especially off the wall. Sorokin could be a star this year and in the offseason it will be rumors about adding a goalie.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 26 @ 11:14 AM ET


I can't believe people were even thinking it was a possibility. I guess it was just something for people to debate during the down time but was not even remotely realistic

- mdw7413


As soon as you see the words "Offer Sheet" you can stop reading.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 26 @ 11:16 AM ET
As soon as you see the words "Offer Sheet" you can stop reading.
- JimmyP


Pretty much
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 26 @ 11:25 AM ET
Rumors around the Isles are especially off the wall. Sorokin could be a star this year and in the offseason it will be rumors about adding a goalie.
- ses111


I see chiefs got to you...
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 26 @ 11:26 AM ET
I see chiefs got to you...
- mdw7413




I'm not sure chief would post could be a star.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 26 @ 11:44 AM ET
If $1.5 would be fair then they are paying him $1,000,000 more than he's worth.
- JimmyP


Yeah I had typed 1.5 mill.. maybe 1.7 b/c he was a veteran.. and deleted it and then never corrected my math.

My point is .. Hickey is not a terrible D-man. We have had Waaaaaay worse playing top 4 in recent past on this team. He's fast, can move the puck and actually hits a lot considering his size. If someone gets hurt on our back line I am fine with HIckey playing. Especially with it sounding like we are trading boychuk.

Every team has a few contracts that are terrible. Ladd is a friggin sht show for us but I can see Lou talking him into LTIR b/c of his Knees. The others are players that are on a team that just went to the ECF.
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