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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:58 PM ET

- gergeswillems



Parent was before my time.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:58 PM ET
*hates Crouse*
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
The 94 SCF between the Rangers and Canucks is the best SCF I've ever seen. I never saw any before 1982. Pavel Bure was unreal in those playoffs. So was Brian Leetch.
- gergeswillems



As were Messier and Richter
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
Parent was before my time.
- PatC80

Parents always are
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:00 PM ET
Parents always are
- 21peter




21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:00 PM ET
The 94 SCF between the Rangers and Canucks is the best SCF I've ever seen. I never saw any before 1982. Pavel Bure was unreal in those playoffs. So was Brian Leetch.
- gergeswillems

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:02 PM ET
As were Messier and Richter
- PatC80

My Dad is a Rangers Fan. Hated the Leafs when the Leafs traded for his favourite Ranger Andy Bathgate. But Messier became his favourite Ranger very quickly.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:02 PM ET
PPP had a nice article on Petro.

It would be a but of a gamble but if you are a team that can structure the contract the way he wants and can move some cap out you improve your team by a (frank) load.

a 2nd pairing and a 3rd pairing would help but statistical evidence suggest having a top 10 D in the league makes your D good. Pair him with a 3rd pairing D and you still get a top pairing.

It is a no brainer. Him and Holl would still be a fantastic pairing. He won the cup with Joel Edmondson as his most common partner.

- Santo_44



He (Petro) won the cup because of ROR and Bennington.. and that's it.. Not because he turned into some kind of monster D man.

He was there all the years of Jake Allen and before ROR and they didn't win squat... Squat..

Go to Bennington and add arguably one of the best 2 way forwards in the game.. and get a cup...

Yes Petro is a very solid upgrade for Leafs .. no doubt, but not for 9 mil and 7 yrs..
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 23 @ 4:02 PM ET
*hates Crouse*
- AdamFrench

That's just because you were wrong about him pre-draft.. Quite sure you said something along the lines of: "typical big player that destroys junior opponents due to his size, but when playing in NHL he won't be able to leverage that advantage. Mediocre skating and hands of stone means he should not be picked in 1st round. Overvalued."
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
*hates Crouse*
- AdamFrench


we need to start trading for fischer instead.

crouse is junk.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
That's just because you were wrong about him pre-draft.. Quite sure you said something along the lines of: "typical big player that destroys junior opponents due to his size, but when playing in NHL he won't be able to leverage that advantage. Mediocre skating and hands of stone means he should not be picked in 1st round. Overvalued."
- MaximusAurelius

So I was right?
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Sep 23 @ 4:04 PM ET
That was an outstanding trade for Dubas.
- gergeswillems

Stoked over that one . Figured a high second at most.

And while you're here...I haven't watched much of the play-offs, but have to say I enjoy watching Kucherov handle the puck and set-up plays. Reminds me a lot of Pavel Datsyuk in the way he carrires himself. Wish he was a Leafer too.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 23 @ 4:05 PM ET
So I was right?
- AdamFrench

Haha i was expecting that answer.
I think he's a bit better than that.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 23 @ 4:06 PM ET
Stoked over that one . Figured a high second at most.

And while you're here...I haven't watched much of the play-offs, but have to say I enjoy watching Kucherov handle the puck and set-up plays. Reminds me a lot of Pavel Datsyuk in the way he carrires himself. Wish he was a Leafer too.

- Leafsmart

Kucherov is a level or 2 below Datsyuk
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:06 PM ET
Haha i was expecting that answer.
I think he's a bit better than that.

- MaximusAurelius

23 year old 3rd (if generous)/4th liner. I dunno, spatso and Button had him in the top-5 which was what really angered me having actually seen him play.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
Stoked over that one . Figured a high second at most.

And while you're here...I haven't watched much of the play-offs, but have to say I enjoy watching Kucherov handle the puck and set-up plays. Reminds me a lot of Pavel Datsyuk in the way he carrires himself. Wish he was a Leafer too.

- Leafsmart

I still can't figure out how Kucherov was drafted in the 2nd round. Great pick by Yzerman. Yeah Kucherov has some Datsyuk in him. The high hockey IQ and elusiveness. Kucherov plays with more of an edge. Datsyuk was mentally tougher. Kucherov can be rattled at times. Datsyuk was like a cyborg. Both great players. 👍
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:09 PM ET
I still can't figure out how Kucherov was drafted in the 2nd round. Great pick by Yzerman. Yeah Kucherov has some Datsyuk in him. The high hockey IQ and elusiveness. Kucherov plays with more of an edge. Datsyuk was mentally tougher. Kucherov can be rattled at times. Datsyuk was like a cyborg. Both great players. 👍
- gergeswillems

Well you know...he's Russian...and he ONLY set the record for the U18 tournament scoring above all of our favourite superstars...but he was in the MHL and 5'10 or something.

it's like when people wonder why he's a (frank)ing punk ass female genitalia in the playoffs and spears/elbows guys as if he hasn't been that guy since he was 16.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:13 PM ET
Well you know...he's Russian...and he ONLY set the record for the U18 tournament scoring above all of our favourite superstars...but he was in the MHL and 5'10 or something.

it's like when people wonder why he's a (frank)ing punk ass female genitalia in the playoffs and spears/elbows guys as if he hasn't been that guy since he was 16.

- AdamFrench

I recall when people used to tell me the Red Wings would never win a Stanley Cup with Russian players. They didn't have any actual insight of their own. They were basically just ripping off Don Cherry.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:13 PM ET


He (Petro) won the cup because of ROR and Bennington.. and that's it.. Not because he turned into some kind of monster D man.

He was there all the years of Jake Allen and before ROR and they didn't win squat... Squat..

Go to Bennington and add arguably one of the best 2 way forwards in the game.. and get a cup...

Yes Petro is a very solid upgrade for Leafs .. no doubt, but not for 9 mil and 7 yrs..

- dozerD10



7x8, NMC, huge bonuses at the end
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:14 PM ET
So I was right?
- AdamFrench


but you whiffed on nylander

The problems begin obviously with two things, his play style and his defensive game. Some would call him “soft,” which is a very accurate description. This is not a player who will grind things out or you want out there when the game is on the line and you’re protecting a 1 goal lead. He’s a high octane scorer and playmaker who will dazzle with the man advantage. Sometimes he stays on the perimeter too much or hangs onto the puck looking for the perfect play rather than getting it deep. Two things that the modern NHL can punish. The potential for Nylander is so high, it truly is, but there is risk.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:15 PM ET
So I was right?
- AdamFrench



yes
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:16 PM ET
Well you know...he's Russian...and he ONLY set the record for the U18 tournament scoring above all of our favourite superstars...but he was in the MHL and 5'10 or something.

it's like when people wonder why he's a (frank)ing punk ass female genitalia in the playoffs and spears/elbows guys as if he hasn't been that guy since he was 16.

- AdamFrench

And my boy Forsberg still got the U20 record
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:17 PM ET
And my boy Forsberg still got the U20 record
- 21peter

I hated his guts but Peter Forsberg was a hell of a player.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:18 PM ET
7x8, NMC, huge bonuses at the end
- Steven_Seagull



If Dubas can make it work.. Hats off.

Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:18 PM ET
I hated his guts but Peter Forsberg was a hell of a player.
- gergeswillems



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