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Perrault is ready for the glue factory. We can't afford to trade him to shed salary unless you want to lose picks or prospects. The last time Chevy did that with a player to get rid of Mason, it cost us Armia. - Napolean-Mennonite
The Mason thing was bad, but Armia was expendable at the time. The Mason signing was also totally unnecessary, and 100% a product of panic. Armia is also a considerably better player for Montreal than he was here. Mind you, Chairot also heavily overperformed, so that’s probably our system/coaching.
Anyway, my point is you can 100% trade Perreault away with one year left. Even if you don’t, you can still likely swing a 3x3 for DeMelo AND snag Pietrangelo |
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The Mason thing was bad, but Armia was expendable at the time. The Mason signing was also totally unnecessary, and 100% a product of panic. Armia is also a considerably better player for Montreal than he was here. Mind you, Chairot also heavily overperformed, so that’s probably our system/coaching.
Anyway, my point is you can 100% trade Perreault away with one year left. Even if you don’t, you can still likely swing a 3x3 for DeMelo AND snag Pietrangelo - Rexypoo
The cap is flat, most teams don't have a lot of cap space, it'll take assets to dump Perreault, highly unlikely anyone is giving anything for Perreault.
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The cap is flat, most teams don't have a lot of cap space, it'll take assets to dump Perreault, highly unlikely anyone is giving anything for Perreault.
Pietrangelo isn't leaving Missouri for Manitoba, it's just not happening. - JetFuel
A: you can get it done. Cap floor team. Veteran player who can play all 3 positions, and is coming off a down year on an expiring contract.
B: you say that like anyone’s ever heard anything cool about Missouri |
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The cap is flat, most teams don't have a lot of cap space, it'll take assets to dump Perreault, highly unlikely anyone is giving anything for Perreault.
Pietrangelo isn't leaving Missouri for Manitoba, it's just not happening. - JetFuel
The Jets have about 16 million in cap space for 13 roster spots according to capfriendly. You put Little on long term injured reserve and now you are at close to 21 million. Considering that a vaccine for the pandemic is projected to not come to the masses until mid-2021, I imagine this puts a damper on large groups attending sporting events and that the cap stays flat for a number of years. We need to use this cap room effectively and smart. We can't afford to swing and miss on big ticket free agent signings, especially if it means we have to trade away RFAs when their entry level and bridge deals run out.
I think the Jets are in a good place if Chevy plays things smart. This is a deep draft year so he can't afford to miss on the first 2 rounds. Those players need to be playing within 3 years. I would also let Shore, Bourque, Shaw, Schilling, Letestu, Sbisa and Bitetto all walk. Demelo should be offered a contract. Sign one of either Beulieu or Kulikov to whoever signs the most reasonable contract. People tend to trash talk Winnipeg, but this is the year we can afford to get something better than a league minimum contract player trying to avoid playing in some KHL team in Siberia or Kazakhstan.
The Jets are loaded on defence with the Moose. Niku's develop was a bust last year and a disappointment considering he was an Eddie Shore winner as the best AHL defenceman 2 years ago. He's a natural left defenceman that prefers the right side and is a powerplay specialist. We need to play him or trade him. Considering if we need more physical guys, it might have to be the later.
The Jets prospect pool is almost dry except left shooting defenceman. In fact, taking Niku out, we have 4 that should be playing in the AHL with Heinola, Kovacevic, Samburg and Stanley. Because of that, I would either give the third pairing on the Jets roster to Kovacevic and let Samburg develop in the AHL unless he blows everyone away at training camp in October. Kovacevic is 23 and the most responsible of our AHL defense prospects.
Vesalainen and Gustaffson had mediocre years until they were paired together in the AHL. Let those 2 develop as they should develop into our future 3rd line in the NHL. They need to have more consistency before making the team. Patience has frustrated us as fans but has paid off with Morrissey and Connor. I see both of them being middle 6 in skillset.
Outside of left side defence and goalie, the Jets need to draft the best player available. I would of been open in trading our first to move down and pick up additional first rounders but considering how the lottery went, that won't happen anymore.
Reading the media, they keep saying Jake Sanderson as a possibility. Considering defence on the left is a strength, the only defenceman I would take is only Jamie Drysdale (most likely to go to Ottawa at 5) or Braden Schneider (mid to late 1st round ranking). If Chevy wants the later, perhaps he can get an extra 2nd rounder to move for a later pick in the draft.
If you're looking at forward, the Jets are most likely to pick Alexander Holtz (RW), Marco Rossi (undersized center), Jack Quinn (scoring RW), Seth Jarvis (RW) or Anton Lundell (center), Dawson Mercer (RW). The projections of where they rank is all over the place when comparing McKeens, TSN and the NHL lists. My personal preference at forward is going for the offensive right winger like Jack Quinn. It takes longer to develop centers and we have the option of trading or signing a center. If we take a winger or defenceman with the first pick, the 2nd rounder needs to be a center. Worst case scenario is we break up Wheeler and Schiefele and have Wheeler as our 2nd line center is Little doesn't come back.
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The Jets have about 16 million in cap space for 13 roster spots according to capfriendly. You put Little on long term injured reserve and now you are at close to 21 million. Considering that a vaccine for the pandemic is projected to not come to the masses until mid-2021, I imagine this puts a damper on large groups attending sporting events and that the cap stays flat for a number of years. We need to use this cap room effectively and smart. We can't afford to swing and miss on big ticket free agent signings, especially if it means we have to trade away RFAs when their entry level and bridge deals run out.
I think the Jets are in a good place if Chevy plays things smart. This is a deep draft year so he can't afford to miss on the first 2 rounds. Those players need to be playing within 3 years. I would also let Shore, Bourque, Shaw, Schilling, Letestu, Sbisa and Bitetto all walk. Demelo should be offered a contract. Sign one of either Beulieu or Kulikov to whoever signs the most reasonable contract. People tend to trash talk Winnipeg, but this is the year we can afford to get something better than a league minimum contract player trying to avoid playing in some KHL team in Siberia or Kazakhstan.
The Jets are loaded on defence with the Moose. Niku's develop was a bust last year and a disappointment considering he was an Eddie Shore winner as the best AHL defenceman 2 years ago. He's a natural left defenceman that prefers the right side and is a powerplay specialist. We need to play him or trade him. Considering if we need more physical guys, it might have to be the later.
The Jets prospect pool is almost dry except left shooting defenceman. In fact, taking Niku out, we have 4 that should be playing in the AHL with Heinola, Kovacevic, Samburg and Stanley. Because of that, I would either give the third pairing on the Jets roster to Kovacevic and let Samburg develop in the AHL unless he blows everyone away at training camp in October. Kovacevic is 23 and the most responsible of our AHL defense prospects.
Vesalainen and Gustaffson had mediocre years until they were paired together in the AHL. Let those 2 develop as they should develop into our future 3rd line in the NHL. They need to have more consistency before making the team. Patience has frustrated us as fans but has paid off with Morrissey and Connor. I see both of them being middle 6 in skillset.
Outside of left side defence and goalie, the Jets need to draft the best player available. I would of been open in trading our first to move down and pick up additional first rounders but considering how the lottery went, that won't happen anymore.
Reading the media, they keep saying Jake Sanderson as a possibility. Considering defence on the left is a strength, the only defenceman I would take is only Jamie Drysdale (most likely to go to Ottawa at 5) or Braden Schneider (mid to late 1st round ranking). If Chevy wants the later, perhaps he can get an extra 2nd rounder to move for a later pick in the draft.
If you're looking at forward, the Jets are most likely to pick Alexander Holtz (RW), Marco Rossi (undersized center), Jack Quinn (scoring RW), Seth Jarvis (RW) or Anton Lundell (center), Dawson Mercer (RW). The projections of where they rank is all over the place when comparing McKeens, TSN and the NHL lists. My personal preference at forward is going for the offensive right winger like Jack Quinn. It takes longer to develop centers and we have the option of trading or signing a center. If we take a winger or defenceman with the first pick, the 2nd rounder needs to be a center. Worst case scenario is we break up Wheeler and Schiefele and have Wheeler as our 2nd line center is Little doesn't come back. - Napolean-Mennonite
Beaulieu and Kulikov are not good. They have not been good here, either. I would rather gamble on any two random for extras than those two.
As for the blueline, not including Samberg and especially Heinola straight away is a mistake.
Heinola was our 3rd most effective defenceman in his short run, and would’ve been 2nd without DeMelo’s appearance at the top. On could argue the #1 spot, because Pionk fell apart during the play-in.
You also underrate both Gustafsson and Vesalainen.
Gus was a strong performer all season long, but just needed more ice time.
Vesalainen had a slow start, probably in part because of that car crash. Remember that at the time of the 2019 draft, he was considered a top tier prospect. One model I posted here had him 3rd for highest ceiling, behind Hughes and Kaako.
Now is the time for a youth movement. The old way of plugging holes with other teams’ cast off plugs on 1 year deals hasn’t worked.
P.S. of the Jets don’t take Lundell at 10, mistakes have been made |
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The Jets have about 16 million in cap space for 13 roster spots according to capfriendly. You put Little on long term injured reserve and now you are at close to 21 million. Considering that a vaccine for the pandemic is projected to not come to the masses until mid-2021, I imagine this puts a damper on large groups attending sporting events and that the cap stays flat for a number of years. We need to use this cap room effectively and smart. We can't afford to swing and miss on big ticket free agent signings, especially if it means we have to trade away RFAs when their entry level and bridge deals run out.
I think the Jets are in a good place if Chevy plays things smart. This is a deep draft year so he can't afford to miss on the first 2 rounds. Those players need to be playing within 3 years. I would also let Shore, Bourque, Shaw, Schilling, Letestu, Sbisa and Bitetto all walk. Demelo should be offered a contract. Sign one of either Beulieu or Kulikov to whoever signs the most reasonable contract. People tend to trash talk Winnipeg, but this is the year we can afford to get something better than a league minimum contract player trying to avoid playing in some KHL team in Siberia or Kazakhstan.
The Jets are loaded on defence with the Moose. Niku's develop was a bust last year and a disappointment considering he was an Eddie Shore winner as the best AHL defenceman 2 years ago. He's a natural left defenceman that prefers the right side and is a powerplay specialist. We need to play him or trade him. Considering if we need more physical guys, it might have to be the later.
The Jets prospect pool is almost dry except left shooting defenceman. In fact, taking Niku out, we have 4 that should be playing in the AHL with Heinola, Kovacevic, Samburg and Stanley. Because of that, I would either give the third pairing on the Jets roster to Kovacevic and let Samburg develop in the AHL unless he blows everyone away at training camp in October. Kovacevic is 23 and the most responsible of our AHL defense prospects.
Vesalainen and Gustaffson had mediocre years until they were paired together in the AHL. Let those 2 develop as they should develop into our future 3rd line in the NHL. They need to have more consistency before making the team. Patience has frustrated us as fans but has paid off with Morrissey and Connor. I see both of them being middle 6 in skillset.
Outside of left side defence and goalie, the Jets need to draft the best player available. I would of been open in trading our first to move down and pick up additional first rounders but considering how the lottery went, that won't happen anymore.
Reading the media, they keep saying Jake Sanderson as a possibility. Considering defence on the left is a strength, the only defenceman I would take is only Jamie Drysdale (most likely to go to Ottawa at 5) or Braden Schneider (mid to late 1st round ranking). If Chevy wants the later, perhaps he can get an extra 2nd rounder to move for a later pick in the draft.
If you're looking at forward, the Jets are most likely to pick Alexander Holtz (RW), Marco Rossi (undersized center), Jack Quinn (scoring RW), Seth Jarvis (RW) or Anton Lundell (center), Dawson Mercer (RW). The projections of where they rank is all over the place when comparing McKeens, TSN and the NHL lists. My personal preference at forward is going for the offensive right winger like Jack Quinn. It takes longer to develop centers and we have the option of trading or signing a center. If we take a winger or defenceman with the first pick, the 2nd rounder needs to be a center. Worst case scenario is we break up Wheeler and Schiefele and have Wheeler as our 2nd line center is Little doesn't come back. - Napolean-Mennonite
This post is too well thought out to be on HockeyBuzz. |
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Beaulieu and Kulikov are not good. They have not been good here, either. I would rather gamble on any two random for extras than those two.
As for the blueline, not including Samberg and especially Heinola straight away is a mistake.
Heinola was our 3rd most effective defenceman in his short run, and would’ve been 2nd without DeMelo’s appearance at the top. On could argue the #1 spot, because Pionk fell apart during the play-in.
You also underrate both Gustafsson and Vesalainen.
Gus was a strong performer all season long, but just needed more ice time.
Vesalainen had a slow start, probably in part because of that car crash. Remember that at the time of the 2019 draft, he was considered a top tier prospect. One model I posted here had him 3rd for highest ceiling, behind Hughes and Kaako.
Now is the time for a youth movement. The old way of plugging holes with other teams’ cast off plugs on 1 year deals hasn’t worked.
P.S. of the Jets don’t take Lundell at 10, mistakes have been made - Rexypoo
Everything I've read about Lundell sounds good, seems like he'd be a safe but good pick, touted as a solid two way center which is exactly what they need, could see Minnesota grabbing him though as they're needing centers as well. |
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The Mason thing was bad, but Armia was expendable at the time. The Mason signing was also totally unnecessary, and 100% a product of panic. Armia is also a considerably better player for Montreal than he was here. Mind you, Chairot also heavily overperformed, so that’s probably our system/coaching.
Anyway, my point is you can 100% trade Perreault away with one year left. Even if you don’t, you can still likely swing a 3x3 for DeMelo AND snag Pietrangelo - Rexypoo
Chairot has benefited from playing with Weber |
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The Mason thing was bad, but Armia was expendable at the time. The Mason signing was also totally unnecessary, and 100% a product of panic. Armia is also a considerably better player for Montreal than he was here. Mind you, Chairot also heavily overperformed, so that’s probably our system/coaching.
Anyway, my point is you can 100% trade Perreault away with one year left. Even if you don’t, you can still likely swing a 3x3 for DeMelo AND snag Pietrangelo - Rexypoo
And I don’t think you’ll have any takers for Perreault alone, we would have to add. |
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Chairot has benefited from playing with Weber - Ross77
True, but his underlying numbers improved as well |
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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And I don’t think you’ll have any takers for Perreault alone, we would have to add. - Ross77
Fine, we need to add. Happy? Add Logan Stanley |
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Perrault is ready for the glue factory. We can't afford to trade him to shed salary unless you want to lose picks or prospects. The last time Chevy did that with a player to get rid of Mason, it cost us Armia. - Napolean-Mennonite
Not only did it cost Armia but we got Simon Bourque who terminated his contract and this years 4th went to the Habs , I believe. This initial signing of Mason was disaster.
Your point is well taken. |
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Fine, we need to add. Happy? Add Logan Stanley - Rexypoo
hahahahahhah |
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Chairot has benefited from playing with Weber - Ross77
and not having to play with the lazy and generally unpredictable Byfuglien.
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Not only did it cost Armia but we got Simon Bourque who terminated his contract and this years 4th went to the Habs , I believe. This initial signing of Mason was disaster.
Your point is well taken. - Old Flopper
No GM is perfect....they all make mistakes.
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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and not having to play with the lazy and generally unpredictable Byfuglien. - bennythehat
Byfuglien was the better defensive player for about 3 straight years before this one.
He was also the better overall player until 18-19. |
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Byfuglien was the better defensive player for about 3 straight years before this one.
He was also the better overall player until 18-19. - Rexypoo
His sudden retirement left me disappointed as I had hoped to see him block a shot with his body and/or break up a two on one, before his career ended.
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Not only did it cost Armia but we got Simon Bourque who terminated his contract and this years 4th went to the Habs , I believe. This initial signing of Mason was disaster.
Your point is well taken. - Old Flopper
We also got about 6mil cap space from the trade |
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His sudden retirement left me disappointed as I had hoped to see him block a shot with his body and/or break up a two on one, before his career ended. - bennythehat
This is an interesting way to announce you don’t pay attention to the games. Excellent self-own. |
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We also got about 6mil cap space from the trade - 2.0
What did they do with that $6 million of cap space? |
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What did they do with that $6 million of cap space? - JetFuel
We signed Stastny to a contract. At least that was suppose to be the reason in freeing up cap space. |
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What did they do with that $6 million of cap space? - JetFuel
We used it so we wouldn't have to trade our core group RFAs. In particular, it helped us bridge Morrissey so we wouldn't lose him. Ehlers had also signed a 7 year deal the previous season that was kicking in and it saved us from going over.
I'm try to look on the positives. The hockey Gods tend to balance things out. With Montreal and Chicago causing upsets, the Jets moved down from 12th to 10th. The way the lottery is stacked for the worst teams. The Jets were more likely to drop in the lottery than move up before we created a qualifying round. They were projected to be 18th if they finished the season and would most likely be in the 20s if they made it past the qualifier to face disappointment in the later rounds.
We've drafted 3 times in the top and landed Mark Scheifele, Jacob Trouba and Nikolaj Ehlers. We've landed Kyle Connor at 17 and Morrissey at 13. With this being the deepest draft in years, we can make up for gambling and missing the last 2 years as we should be getting a very good player to our development core.
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We used it so we wouldn't have to trade our core group RFAs. In particular, it helped us bridge Morrissey so we wouldn't lose him. Ehlers had also signed a 7 year deal the previous season that was kicking in and it saved us from going over.
I'm try to look on the positives. The hockey Gods tend to balance things out. With Montreal and Chicago causing upsets, the Jets moved down from 12th to 10th. The way the lottery is stacked for the worst teams. The Jets were more likely to drop in the lottery than move up before we created a qualifying round. They were projected to be 18th if they finished the season and would most likely be in the 20s if they made it past the qualifier to face disappointment in the later rounds.
We've drafted 3 times in the top and landed Mark Scheifele, Jacob Trouba and Nikolaj Ehlers. We've landed Kyle Connor at 17 and Morrissey at 13. With this being the deepest draft in years, we can make up for gambling and missing the last 2 years as we should be getting a very good player to our development core. - Napolean-Mennonite
As long as we don’t jump at any more trees like Stanley, we’ll be just fine |
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We used it so we wouldn't have to trade our core group RFAs. In particular, it helped us bridge Morrissey so we wouldn't lose him. Ehlers had also signed a 7 year deal the previous season that was kicking in and it saved us from going over.
I'm try to look on the positives. The hockey Gods tend to balance things out. With Montreal and Chicago causing upsets, the Jets moved down from 12th to 10th. The way the lottery is stacked for the worst teams. The Jets were more likely to drop in the lottery than move up before we created a qualifying round. They were projected to be 18th if they finished the season and would most likely be in the 20s if they made it past the qualifier to face disappointment in the later rounds.
We've drafted 3 times in the top and landed Mark Scheifele, Jacob Trouba and Nikolaj Ehlers. We've landed Kyle Connor at 17 and Morrissey at 13. With this being the deepest draft in years, we can make up for gambling and missing the last 2 years as we should be getting a very good player to our development core. - Napolean-Mennonite
You forgot Laine. That's 4 times in the top 10 Morrissey a lottery pick. Conner 3 picks above the lottery line, and now another lottery pick at 10th.
What great on-ice team success the Jets have had in 10 years. |
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Copp shooting his shot in the media today. Hopefully Maurice is listening a bit more intently than he was watching the games |
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