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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 5 @ 8:53 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Bubble Updates: Lindblom. 2nd D Pair, Farabee, Lyon and More
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Aug 5 @ 9:00 AM ET
Thanks Bill.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 5 @ 9:02 AM ET
Tough spot with the goalies in these exhibition games , if he sits out the Tampa game what is the expected time frame from Washington game to game 1 of our series? I’d almost opt for him to play both if it’s another 5 day or so lay off
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 5 @ 9:07 AM ET
Tough spot with the goalies in these exhibition games , if he sits out the Tampa game what is the expected time frame from Washington game to game 1 of our series? I’d almost opt for him to play both if it’s another 5 day or so lay off
- ClaudeFather


ECQF Game 1 for the Flyers will be on Aug. 11. So if Hart goes tomorrow (Aug. 6) and Elliott on Saturday (Aug. 8), it'll be a five-day layoff for Hart on the other side of tomorrow's game. I agree than I'd consider Hart get every game in the RR but the problem is that then Elliott will have played only 1-plus period in the Bubble and have not played at all since July 28.

With Hart having had (apparently) minor back spasms late in camp, I think you need to keep Elliott reasonably game-ready just in case something happens to Hart.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 5 @ 9:17 AM ET
ECQF Game 1 for the Flyers will be on Aug. 11. So if Hart goes tomorrow (Aug. 6) and Elliott on Saturday (Aug. 8), it'll be a five-day layoff for Hart on the other side of tomorrow's game. I agree than I'd consider Hart get every game in the RR but the problem is that then Elliott will have played only 1-plus period in the Bubble and have not played at all since July 28.

With Hart having had (apparently) minor back spasms late in camp, I think you need to keep Elliott reasonably game-ready just in case something happens to Hart.

- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill, may be best to have him go tomorrow then and Elliot against Tampa.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 5 @ 9:23 AM ET
Spot on in regards to D development Bill. Since the early 70s development of Jim Watson and Tom Bladon, the best the Flyers could do for 40 years was Behn Wilson, Chris Therien and I guess Pitkanen and Niinimaa. That’s pathetic.

It’s great to see D development doing a complete 180 over the last few years with Ghost, Provorov, Sanheim & Myers; all 4 of whom would be on my 10 best Flyers homegrown D list. Hopefully the trend continues with Zamula & York.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 5 @ 9:23 AM ET
ECQF Game 1 for the Flyers will be on Aug. 11. So if Hart goes tomorrow (Aug. 6) and Elliott on Saturday (Aug. 8), it'll be a five-day layoff for Hart on the other side of tomorrow's game. I agree than I'd consider Hart get every game in the RR but the problem is that then Elliott will have played only 1-plus period in the Bubble and have not played at all since July 28.

With Hart having had (apparently) minor back spasms late in camp, I think you need to keep Elliott reasonably game-ready just in case something happens to Hart.

- bmeltzer

I’m with you. Play Hart tomorrow and Moose vs TB.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 5 @ 9:33 AM ET
Pretty grim line in point #5 Bill

“a vicious circle of self-perpetuation driven by the death of higher-end defense prospects in the system“

yikes

I’m assuming it’s meant to be dearth and not death.

Alex Lyon is pretty hilarious in that video.

You think Ghost gets a game in the round robin? I think he should.

Curious to see where Farabee slots in the line up, and what AV does with JvR after his comments of expecting more from him.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Aug 5 @ 9:36 AM ET
I hear what you’re saying, it’s a tough call on which game to start Elliott. Isn’t it also possible with scheduling that if Hart starts Thursday that it will have been 6 or more days until Game 1 of the first series?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 5 @ 9:38 AM ET
I trust AV to call the right shot. He has done it all year.

Glad the Rags are out. They need to do a lot of work defensively.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Aug 5 @ 9:40 AM ET
Alex Lyon is pretty hilarious in that video.
- Marc D


Yeah, he reminds me of a nephew of mine. I’m rather fond of him. Fun, very healthy, hardworking and extremely smart.

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 5 @ 9:41 AM ET
Pretty grim line in point #5 Bill

“a vicious circle of self-perpetuation driven by the death of higher-end defense prospects in the system“

yikes

I’m assuming it’s meant to be dearth and not death.

Alex Lyon is pretty hilarious in that video.

You think Ghost gets a game in the round robin? I think he should.

Curious to see where Farabee slots in the line up, and what AV does with JvR after his comments of expecting more from him.

- Marc D


Fixed, thanks.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
Bill- any word on what Pryor is up to? Initially, I was furious about the Hextall firing and subsequent departure of Pryor. I thought the loss of those two would drastically alter drafting philosophy. Thankfully, that hasnt been the case but I still wish Pryor was still here. (I understand why he isnt)
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Aug 5 @ 10:07 AM ET
Love him or hate him, Hextall stuck to his drafting plan and it’s paying off for the club now. The Schenn trade still puzzles me but if I actually take at the potential long term impact of the Farabee and Frost, I’m hopeful when Giroux and Voracek are winding down, their contributions to the team will be much greater than they presently are.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 5 @ 10:19 AM ET
Love him or hate him, Hextall stuck to his drafting plan and it’s paying off for the club now. The Schenn trade still puzzles me but if I actually take at the potential long term impact of the Farabee and Frost, I’m hopeful when Giroux and Voracek are winding down, their contributions to the team will be much greater than they presently are.
- DraftandDestroy


The team needs to keep drafting and developing at close to the same level as the Hexy era to make sure this is a longterm turn around.

I can't think of too many players that I would not trade for (2) 1st round picks. Even if it meant taking on a stiff to even up the contracts.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 5 @ 10:23 AM ET
Spot on in regards to D development Bill. Since the early 70s development of Jim Watson and Tom Bladon, the best the Flyers could do for 40 years was Behn Wilson, Chris Therien and I guess Pitkanen and Niinimaa. That’s pathetic.

It’s great to see D development doing a complete 180 over the last few years with Ghost, Provorov, Sanheim & Myers; all 4 of whom would be on my 10 best Flyers homegrown D list. Hopefully the trend continues with Zamula & York.

- BiggE


Agreed. For a while now, the most valuable asset in the NHL has been that young stud 2 way dman. I've really liked how the org shifted focus and really brought in a ton of these types of players. It seems to have been a priority and it's paying off. Guys like Provy are worth their eight in gold and he along with Sanheim and Myers should continue to improve. It'd be nice for Ghost to turn it around as well
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
Love him or hate him, Hextall stuck to his drafting plan and it’s paying off for the club now. The Schenn trade still puzzles me but if I actually take at the potential long term impact of the Farabee and Frost, I’m hopeful when Giroux and Voracek are winding down, their contributions to the team will be much greater than they presently are.
- DraftandDestroy


I agree. His steadfast focus on drafting has put us in good stead. I am happy to see that Fletch seems to place a premium on this as well. If there's a point that we are really on the cusp of winning, I am happy to flip some assets, but not sell the farm. Long term winning window is the goal that should allow us to get a cup. I am ok with the Schenn trade as I think the return will end up being solid in the long run. That's no knock on Schenn either.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Aug 5 @ 10:31 AM ET
The team needs to keep drafting and developing at close to the same level as the Hexy era to make sure this is a longterm turn around.

I can't think of too many players that I would not trade for (2) 1st round picks. Even if it meant taking on a stiff to even up the contracts.

- mickel25


Totally agree. Liked Schenn a lot while he was here, but that's a very good return. Whether or not Frost and Farabee end up being special players remains to be seen, but I think they're both going to be very good for the Flyers.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 5 @ 10:39 AM ET
Totally agree. Liked Schenn a lot while he was here, but that's a very good return. Whether or not Frost and Farabee end up being special players remains to be seen, but I think they're both going to be very good for the Flyers.
- Ftown19125


I think it also had to do with the Flyers window to win. hexy just didn't see it as being at that time, and thought he was getting a solid return. Now we should have two young forwards ready to contribute as the team improves.

Excited to see hockey back, and I think that if you tell me this team wins a series or two, I will be very happy. Unless Hart pulls a Binnignton in which case I will be ecstatic of course haha
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
I think it also had to do with the Flyers window to win. hexy just didn't see it as being at that time, and thought he was getting a solid return. Now we should have two young forwards ready to contribute as the team improves.

Excited to see hockey back, and I think that if you tell me this team wins a series or two, I will be very happy. Unless Hart pulls a Binnignton in which case I will be ecstatic of course haha

- Hextall271


Yeah I agree with the timing of the trade. Maybe you don't make that same trade right now. That's why the GM gets paid the big bucks.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 5 @ 11:32 AM ET
The recent historical trend toward well-orchestrated drafting of D-men has also shown some early promising signs in the Chuck Fletcher/Brent Flahr regime, especially in the drafting last year of Cam York.
- Bill Meltzer


The drafting of a guy like Mason Millman shows even more promising signs IMO. Kind of an off the board pick, but shows they valued some things in his game that fit the mold of a modern quality defenseman. It looks like they will be rewarded for it. Not sure how much you've been able to watch him, but he looks fantastic.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 5 @ 11:38 AM ET
Mooooooooose in net!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 11:41 AM ET
Bill- any word on what Pryor is up to? Initially, I was furious about the Hextall firing and subsequent departure of Pryor. I thought the loss of those two would drastically alter drafting philosophy. Thankfully, that hasnt been the case but I still wish Pryor was still here. (I understand why he isnt)
- KINGKENZO

I think there has been a big shift in the “drafting philosophy” in that we can already can see that Fletch is wayyyyy more into drafting from the USHL than any Flyers GM I can remember. But as far as continuing to build through the draft I agree Fletch is much closer to Hexy than he is to Holmgren.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
The drafting of a guy like Mason Millman shows even more promising signs IMO. Kind of an off the board pick, but shows they valued some things in his game that fit the mold of a modern quality defenseman. It looks like they will be rewarded for it. Not sure how much you've been able to watch him, but he looks fantastic.
- YuenglingJagr



Just read up about him myself. He had a solid season in the ohl. Hopefully he keeps progressing. The flyers have been drafting well I’d say.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
Bill- any word on what Pryor is up to? Initially, I was furious about the Hextall firing and subsequent departure of Pryor. I thought the loss of those two would drastically alter drafting philosophy. Thankfully, that hasnt been the case but I still wish Pryor was still here. (I understand why he isnt)
- KINGKENZO

Pryor is an amateur scout for the Predators
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