Or Perfetti.
- kingcong39

Reminds me too much of Dylan Strome, whom also had high OHL production but skates like his feet is in cement

The (frank)in abuse Vanek took (and apparently still takes) on here after getting cross checked in the lower back about 100 times a game and STILL leading the team in goals is mind blowing.

Holtz!
Perfect for this team that is crying for a finisher
- IonSabres

Jarvis is an extreme finisher

Lundell.
- Pegullaville

Do not want

Or Perfetti.
- kingcong39

hopefully he goes to wings he would drive me nuts

Do not want
- gerbe75pts

I think he’d be perfect here.

He had issues and physical problems, but what a talent. I'd want him on the ice as much as possible too.
- Michael Pachla

You can't have it both ways if he wasn't abused he probably be on the pk

The things he did without a true center was incredible if vanek was with jack he easily be 1v 1 against OV IMO

I think he’d be perfect here.
- Pegullaville

way to safe of pick for me I want a franchise player not a Mikko Koivu we've had enough of those players in our franchise

If Rossi or Raymond are gone I think we will take
Jarvis or Quinn
- gerbe75pts

Let me guess, they are both 5'6" 130 lbs, lol.

Both sound good, but I'm suspicious of players who either heat up super hot for the last half of their draft year, or are nearly a year older in their draft year and dominate against 16 year olds.
They would be worth a risk in 10 - 15 if a team had an earlier pick that could be spent on more conventional prospects. Too much risk at 8...sounds a lot like Mitts to me.
We shall see though.

way to safe of pick for me I want a franchise player not a Mikko Koivu we've had enough of those players in our franchise
- gerbe75pts

Eichel-Cozens-Lundell would be a solid backbone for many years to come.

With Olofsson, Skinner, Reinhart, Kahun.

I’m not against adding a Holtz at all however. I just think if we solve our problems down the middle, everyone will realize how overblown our supposed problems on the wing are.

No.5 should be hanging from the rafters
- Michael Pachla

Good post 👍

Mike Ramsey was pretty much the only good Sabre for most the early - mid 80's

Good post 👍

Mike Ramsey was pretty much the only good Sabre for most the early - mid 80's
- Boss34

Scotty had the picks to build a dynasty, and he wasted many of them

Let me guess, they are both 5'6" 130 lbs, lol.

Both sound good, but I'm suspicious of players who either heat up super hot for the last half of their draft year, or are nearly a year older in their draft year and dominate against 16 year olds.
They would be worth a risk in 10 - 15 if a team had an earlier pick that could be spent on more conventional prospects. Too much risk at 8...sounds a lot like Mitts to me.
We shall see though.
- IonSabres

Jarvis is an everything player plays pk ,pp ,sniper,playmaker ,annoying on the forcheck and the fastest player in the WHL it finally just clicked for him 63 points in the last 26 games is just crazy

Holtz!
Perfect for this team that is crying for a finisher
- IonSabres

You can't have it both ways if he wasn't abused he probably be on the pk

The things he did without a true center was incredible if vanek was with jack he easily be 1v 1 against OV IMO
- gerbe75pts

You jump all over Mitts for being out of shape yet you defend the Austrian Chub Master as being abused. Why?

Scotty had the picks to build a dynasty, and he wasted many of them
- Powerslave

Soft but skilled
Way too many of those

Eichel-Cozens-Lundell would be a solid backbone for many years to come.

With Olofsson, Skinner, Reinhart, Kahun.

I’m not against adding a Holtz at all however. I just think if we solve our problems down the middle, everyone will realize how overblown our supposed problems on the wing are.
- Pegullaville

You'll be waiting a bit for Cozens and will be disappointed if you settle on that group of wingers.

The (frank)in abuse Vanek took (and apparently still takes) on here after getting cross checked in the lower back about 100 times a game and STILL leading the team in goals is mind blowing.
- feetontheair22

The narrative that Vanek:

A.) Wasn't tough

B.) Didn't try

Is, was, and always will be utter bullpoop. The guy made it look effortless, that's different than not trying. He took an absolute beating in front of the net

He gave it his all and might have been a HOFer if he had a consistent 1C instead of Roy, Ott, Adam, Leino and Hodgson. Along with Miller, they could have accomplished a lot if they had the supporting cast. He could have had 5 40-goal seasons

He and Pominville did it all without a consistent center

The narrative that Vanek:

A.) Wasn't tough

B.) Didn't try

Is, was, and always will be utter bullpoop. The guy made it look effortless, that's different than not trying. He took an absolute beating in front of the net

He gave it his all and might have been a HOFer if he had a consistent 1C instead of Roy, Ott, Adam, Leino and Hodgson. Along with Miller, they could have accomplished a lot if they had the supporting cast. He could have had 5 40-goal seasons

He and Pominville did it all without a consistent center
- jcragcrumple

Also, this is the same poop that gets Reinhart a ton of hate. It's not his fault the rest of the roster is utter garbage. Reinhart is not the same talent level as Vanek, but he gets the same level of hate because the team sucks ass

The narrative that Vanek:

A.) Wasn't tough

B.) Didn't try

Is, was, and always will be utter bullpoop. The guy made it look effortless, that's different than not trying. He took an absolute beating in front of the net

He gave it his all and might have been a HOFer if he had a consistent 1C instead of Roy, Ott, Adam, Leino and Hodgson.

He and Pominville did it all without a consistent center
- jcragcrumple

Vanek was a bit of an enigma. He had a great shot, good goal scorer but some games you would wait for him to show up. Was he tough because he stood in front of the net? In that regard sure, but not in the corners so much. Good player, and if many liked him more than me, fine, not worth the hill to die on.

Like i said his body couldn't handle it ..

What are you not understanding ?
- gerbe75pts

for the last time

maybe you should read your response to a post I make before you post it

you called me a liar, and then spun it where you kind of agreed with me


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People said " refused " but he just couldn't do it because he got extremely tired and be totally useless the rest of the game

If you cant do something how is that refusing?
- gerbe75pts

the link, he literally admits he refused


and yet you called me a liar

Vanek was a bit of an enigma. He had a great shot, good goal scorer but some games you would wait for him to show up. Was he tough because he stood in front of the net? In that regard sure, but not in the corners so much. Good player, and if many liked him more than me, fine, not worth the hill to die on.
- GilPerreault11

Vanek was an elite wing talent that was utterly wasted on a team that searched from '07-'13 to find anyone who could reasonably be called a 1C. The Sabres wasted him. That's not his fault.

He was a warrior x sabre players have said his back would be destroyed after every game
- gerbe75pts

he refused to go on the ice when he was told to kill a penalty


and he was about 15 percent of the teams cap


that would be like ralph asking eichel to kill a penalty and jack said no and jack made 18 mil a year

Vanek was an elite wing talent that was utterly wasted on a team that searched from '07-'13 to find anyone who could reasonably be called a 1C. The Sabres wasted him. That's not his fault.
- jcragcrumple

If they knew they couldn't get him a center and that was his excuse as well then they should have taken the 4 1st round picks and not looked back.