I was comparing how good he is ...
- gerbe75pts

imo, no comparison to jack...and you know it...not position, not skating, not shot, not vision not...anything

All sport teams are idiotic for playing with out a vaccine this virus could do damage to their bodys in months or years ..

We have zero clue what the side effects are later in life
- gerbe75pts

my son's friend, who's 21 yrs. old, just came back from NC and is exhibiting symptoms...took the test and is waiting for results...luckily they haven't physically seen each other in a couple of weeks

imo, no comparison to jack...and you know it...not position, not skating, not shot, not vision not...anything
- Michael Pachla

Sure... but putting up similar stats to Jack just shows that Boeser is a good player
Not on Jack’s level of course,
but could be a great RW2 for us & really help with the secondary scoring

Heck... if he & Skinner are the line2 wings,
we could probably get away with Cozens at 2C
Just try to keep them in mostly offensive situations so Cozens isn’t overwhelmed
I think that line would produce just fine offensively

Then we need to find a 3C that can play defense
Should be much easier to do (and cheaper)

my son's friend, who's 21 yrs. old, just came back from NC and is exhibiting symptoms...took the test and is waiting for results...luckily they haven't physically seen each other in a couple of weeks
- Michael Pachla

33yr old friend had it
Damaged his lungs so bad he has trouble walking around the block 2 months later
Previously a pretty healthy & athletic guy

Doesn’t seem to be much rhyme or reason how bad some ppl who get it are affected

Don’t have to be elderly for it to do real damage

Seriously? I’ll just leave that there
U should know how ridiculous that sounds

If u look at Scoring stats, Sam & Boeser are pretty close
Sam ranked a little higher analytically

What kind of return would u expect for Sam?
I’d say a top4 defenseman & good RW prospect who’s about “NHL ready” seems in the ballpark

Obviously it would depend if they think Tage is a 20goal scorer like Homie,
or if they don’t like him much like me

My trade scenario assumes they like him
- jdfitz77

Its strange, I posted their career stats.

Boeser blows sam away % wise.

Tage is terrible. Bad trade
Montour also is not good enough. Bad trade

Package them for a top line forward?

Talk about ridiculous sounding.

imo, no comparison to jack...and you know it...not position, not skating, not shot, not vision not...anything
- Michael Pachla

He's nothing like jack correct

McKinnon/Seguin plus for Eicel..? Ok, u got my ear.

https://youtu.be/vyTFM65MiiY
- SuperCat

They don't play on the same team :|

He's nothing like jack correct
- gerbe75pts

i like boeser and would gladly have him in a 2RW role for the Sabres...but some of his stats give cause for pause

i like boeser and would gladly have him in a 2RW role for the Sabres...but some of his stats give cause for pause
- Michael Pachla

Underlying stats?

His stats seem solid, even his +/- on a bad team.

The games missed is slightly concerning

Sam doesn’t want to play center.

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- SuperCat

Its strange, I posted their career stats.

Boeser blows sam away % wise.

Tage is terrible. Bad trade
Montour also is not good enough. Bad trade

Package them for a top line forward?

Talk about ridiculous sounding.
- Boss34

Top4 Right shot defensemen have value
And while i agree with you about Tage,
I do think there’s ppl that see him as a good prospect
Does Vancouver? Idk

And we get it Boss, u hate Sam
It’s years later & u still hold a grudge about not signing an autograph
That’s ridiculous

Underlying stats?

His stats seem solid, even his +/- on a bad team.

The games missed is slightly concerning
- Boss34

he's scored nearly a third of his goals and points on the 'nucks no. 1 pp unit, his ozone starts are over 75% the last two seasons and he's missed 20, 11 and 12 games, respectively over the past three seasons...add in jerry's note about the $7.5 million salary leading up to a qualifying offer at the end of 2021-22 and there are some concerns, yes

Based on Mike's blog idea about roster construction for this coming season and the one after, with the cap remaining at $81.5M, here's what Mike laid out as his template, with a total cap hit of $75.725M before counting the bonuses from last year, which can now be applied during the next 2 seasons if desired instead of just next season:

Skinner ($9M) - Eichel ($10M) - Reinhart ($7M)
LW ($4.5M) - C ($5M) - Okposo ($6M)
Johansson ($4.5M) - C ($2.9M) - RW ($.9M)
LW ($.9M) - C ($.9M) - RW ($.9M)
Extra ($1.5M)

LD ($5M) - Miller ($3.875M)
McCabe ($2.85M) - RHD ($2M)
Dahlin ($.925M) - Jokiharju ($.925M)

Ullmark ($2.5M)
Hutton ($2.75M)

Here's my idea:

Olofsson ($4M) - Eichel ($10M) - Reinhart ($7M)
Skinner ($9M) - Bonino ($4.1M) - Craig Smith ($4.4M)
Kahun ($2.9M) - Cozens ($.925M) - Johansson ($4.5M)
Maroon ($1.5M) - Ruotsalainen ($.925M)/Lazar ($.8M) - Okposo ($6M)

Forward Total = $56.05M

Dahlin ($.925M) - Jokiharju ($.925M)
Brenden Dillon ($4M) - MacKenzie Weegar ($2.5M)
McCabe ($2.85) - Matt Roy ($.7M)
Jon Merrill LHD ($1.8M)

Defense Total = $13.4M

Ullmark ($2.5M), Hutton ($2.75M)

Goaltending Total = $5.25M

Total Cap Hit = $74.7M

- I estimated Olofsson at $4M for this coming season. The Evolving Hockey group has him at $3M to $3.4M per on a short 1 or 2 year deal, but he has ARB rights, so it could be a little higher. I would not sign Olofsson to anything other than a short term deal for now.

- Evolving Hockey has Craig Smith's predicted next deal at 3 years for $4.4M per

- I have no idea what it would take to get Bonino, but that's my idea for a short term, stop gap Center

- Evolving Hockey has Kahun's next deal at 2 years for $2.9M per

- I do not know if the Panthers would be open to trading for Weegar, but I would try and pry him away from them. Evolving Hockey has his next contract estimated at 2 years for $2.5M per

- Please for the love of god let the Asplund for Matt Roy deal be real. Yes, he's had one full season, but I am willing to bet on him being this type of player going forward

- Evolving Hockey predicts Brenden Dillon's next contract to be 4 years at $3.7M per. I tried to entice him at $4M for 3 years

- Evolving Hockey predicts Jon Merrill's next contract at 1 year for $1.8M, and I would sign him as the 7th Dman

Overall, I have jettisoned nearly the entirety of the right side of defense, replacing Montour, Ristolainen, and Miller with Weegar and Matt Roy, with the idea that the right side will be strong for years, along with Dahlin anchoring the left.

That would also allow the Sabres to turn over their left side defense with prospects (Bryson, Samuelsson) and low cost acquisitions as the right side on pairs 2 and 3 can carry the left.

The roster above also leaves the Sabres with $6.8M in cap space for this coming season to absorb all the bonuses from last year and any potential ones from this coming season, along with having a buffer to make further moves this season and extend key players next offseason.

As far as next offseason, when Dahlin, Jokiharju, and Matt Roy would all need raises, you would have Bonino, Johansson, McCabe, Hutton, Marron, and Merrill all coming off the books at a total of $17.5M.

he's scored nearly a third of his goals and points on the 'nucks no. 1 pp unit, his ozone starts are over 75% the last two seasons and he's missed 20, 11 and 12 games, respectively over the past three seasons...add in jerry's note about the $7.5 million salary leading up to the qualifying offer at the end of 2021-22 and there are some concerns, yes
- Michael Pachla

Would u rather pay less to get a guy like Tuch or Josh Anderson?

I think anyone we trade for at RW is gonna have some questions/concerns

Asplund & a pick for Henrique
Montour & Tage for Boeser

Olofsson-Jack-Sam
Skinner-Henrique-Boeser
MoJo-Cozens-Kahun
Routsalainen-Larsson-Okposo

Would need to figure out LD3 on the cheap
But i like that forward group...
especially with Mitts starting in Rochester & hopefully dominating
- jdfitz77

Like this a lot ...and if mitts progresses he could threaten for a spot. Not sure Those trade proposals get it done, but who knows

Based on Mike's blog idea about roster construction for this coming season and the one after, with the cap remaining at $81.5M, here's what Mike laid out as his template, with a total cap hit of $75.725M before counting the bonuses from last year, which can now be applied during the next 2 seasons if desired instead of just next season:

Skinner ($9M) - Eichel ($10M) - Reinhart ($7M)
LW ($4.5M) - C ($5M) - Okposo ($6M)
Johansson ($4.5M) - C ($2.9M) - RW ($.9M)
LW ($.9M) - C ($.9M) - RW ($.9M)
Extra ($1.5M)

LD ($5M) - Miller ($3.875M)
McCabe ($2.85M) - RHD ($2M)
Dahlin ($.925M) - Jokiharju ($.925M)

Ullmark ($2.5M)
Hutton ($2.75M)

Here's my idea:

Olofsson ($4M) - Eichel ($10M) - Reinhart ($7M)
Skinner ($9M) - Bonino ($4.1M) - Craig Smith ($4.4M)
Kahun ($2.9M) - Cozens ($.925M) - Johansson ($4.5M)
Maroon ($1.5M) - Ruotsalainen ($.925M)/Lazar ($.8M) - Okposo ($6M)

Forward Total = $56.05M

Dahlin ($.925M) - Jokiharju ($.925M)
Brenden Dillon ($4M) - MacKenzie Weegar ($2.5M)
McCabe ($2.85) - Matt Roy ($.7M)
Jon Merrill LHD ($1.8M)

Defense Total = $13.4M

Ullmark ($2.5M), Hutton ($2.75M)

Goaltending Total = $5.25M

Total Cap Hit = $74.7M

- I estimated Olofsson at $4M for this coming season. The Evolving Hockey group has him at $3M to $3.4M per on a short 1 or 2 year deal, but he has ARB rights, so it could be a little higher. I would not sign Olofsson to anything other than a short term deal for now.

- Evolving Hockey has Craig Smith's predicted next deal at 3 years for $4.4M per

- I have no idea what it would take to get Bonino, but that's my idea for a short term, stop gap Center

- Evolving Hockey has Kahun's next deal at 2 years for $2.9M per

- I do not know if the Panthers would be open to trading for Weegar, but I would try and pry him away from them. Evolving Hockey has his next contract estimated at 2 years for $2.5M per

- Please for the love of god let the Asplund for Matt Roy deal be real. Yes, he's had one full season, but I am willing to bet on him being this type of player going forward

- Evolving Hockey predicts Brenden Dillon's next contract to be 4 years at $3.7M per. I tried to entice him at $4M for 3 years

- Evolving Hockey predicts Jon Merrill's next contract at 1 year for $1.8M, and I would sign him as the 7th Dman

Overall, I have jettisoned nearly the entirety of the right side of defense, replacing Montour, Ristolainen, and Miller with Weegar and Matt Roy, with the idea that the right side will be strong for years, along with Dahlin anchoring the left.

That would also allow the Sabres to turn over their left side defense with prospects (Bryson, Samuelsson) and low cost acquisitions as the right side on pairs 2 and 3 can carry the left.

The roster above also leaves the Sabres with $6.8M in cap space for this coming season to absorb all the bonuses from last year and any potential ones from this coming season, along with having a buffer to make further moves this season and extend key players next offseason.

As far as next offseason, when Dahlin, Jokiharju, and Matt Roy would all need raises, you would have Bonino, Johansson, McCabe, Hutton, Marron, and Merrill all coming off the books at a total of $17.5M.
- kingcong39

You’re depending on signing UFAs that should be able to get the $$$ u have us signing them for from a better team
With what a sh!tshow we are right now,
it’s tough for me to imagine that happening

Like this a lot ...and if mitts progresses he could threaten for a spot. Not sure Those trade proposals get it done, but who knows
- turbo044

Totally depends on how those teams feel about the prospects
Reason i had Tage going to VAN is bc he’s a RW like Boeser
Same reasoning with Asplund being a Center like Henrique

But yeah...
there’s certainly a chance that those proposals aren’t enough

You said for months he was safe and not going ..
I said he's done and not liked but jack

Finally when the rumors started you said ROR is being talked about
- gerbe75pts

Hey gerbes - you are adamant that o’reilly was traded because jack couldn’t stand him right?

Strange that when o’reilly came back into town after the trade, jack took him out to dinner. A weird thing for somebody to do if they can’t stand the guy, no? Your move.

https://buffalonews.com/s...6a-a593-3378f37523c7.html

Hey gerbes - you are adamant that o’reilly was traded because jack couldn’t stand him right?

Strange that when o’reilly came back into town after the trade, jack took him out to dinner. A weird thing for somebody to do if they can’t stand the guy, no? Your move.

https://buffalonews.com/s...6a-a593-3378f37523c7.html
- turbo044

Jack & ROR butted heads bc Jack was a young punk, and the team’s constant losing was extremely frustrating for both

I’ve seen them out together a few times
Once at a Dropkick Murphys show with Sam & a few other guys as well

Sure... but putting up similar stats to Jack just shows that Boeser is a good player
Not on Jack’s level of course,
but could be a great RW2 for us & really help with the secondary scoring

Heck... if he & Skinner are the line2 wings,
we could probably get away with Cozens at 2C
Just try to keep them in mostly offensive situations so Cozens isn’t overwhelmed
I think that line would produce just fine offensively

Then we need to find a 3C that can play defense
Should be much easier to do (and cheaper)
- jdfitz77

In this scenario, If you want a solid 3c who can play a 200ft game, maybe even next Year, Lundell is your man at 8oa. He played in the finish elite league at 17, very well and is one of the most complete players in the draft. His offensive upside isn’t as high as some but his floor is very high and his hockey IQ may be the best in the draft

Top4 Right shot defensemen have value
And while i agree with you about Tage,
I do think there’s ppl that see him as a good prospect
Does Vancouver? Idk

And we get it Boss, u hate Sam
It’s years later & u still hold a grudge about not signing an autograph
That’s ridiculous
- jdfitz77

Why the sam love though?

We have been terrible his whole career. He's part of the soft culture they are trying to change.

I like risto alot. Top 3 current sabres.

When someone posts. "Risto sucks" trade him.
I do not cry like a little toddler.

If trading one of my favorites in risto helps this team, my vagina wouldn't be crying all over this board.

I wouldn't be calling someone a hater either. That's stupid lingo.

Sam is a decent hockey player. Outside of buffalo, he is not even recognized as some kind of star contributor.

He's Soft, doesnt always give %100. Big loser like the rest of them. Slow and un exciting.

Off ice f#ckface as well

Would u rather pay less to get a guy like Tuch or Josh Anderson?

I think anyone we trade for at RW is gonna have some questions/concerns
- jdfitz77

i'd rather focus on bringing in a 2C, move mojo to the right and bring in one of those two or some other top-nine rw

U left out the ability to SCORE 30+ goals
And don’t we DESPERATELY need secondary scoring???
- jdfitz77

This is like saying Cheechoo is still a 50 goal scorer or whatever. Im exaggerating for effect, but his shooting talent isn't nearly what people think it is. Playing with Miller and Pettersson and the stacked top line PP vancouver has comes with serious advantages

he's scored nearly a third of his goals and points on the 'nucks no. 1 pp unit, his ozone starts are over 75% the last two seasons and he's missed 20, 11 and 12 games, respectively over the past three seasons...add in jerry's note about the $7.5 million salary leading up to a qualifying offer at the end of 2021-22 and there are some concerns, yes
- Michael Pachla

Good post, much appreciated.

Could he be a "core" sabre moving forward?

Curious about our 2 (2nd) overall picks.
What % is there points are obtained on the pp.

My guess would be 30%ish?

Hey gerbes - you are adamant that o’reilly was traded because jack couldn’t stand him right?

Strange that when o’reilly came back into town after the trade, jack took him out to dinner. A weird thing for somebody to do if they can’t stand the guy, no? Your move.

https://buffalonews.com/s...6a-a593-3378f37523c7.html
- turbo044

So thats being professional ? Why did they move ROR then ? I'll wait ... and your going to tell me the fist pump was fake to