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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 2 @ 12:30 PM ET
Eklund: Previewing UFA2Bs #6-#10. John Shannon on the Buzzcast @1
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
Next blog...#10-#15...some truly hidden gems...
- Eklund

Will #10 be Jacob Markstrom?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 1:50 PM ET
Will #10 be Jacob Markstrom?
- Atomic Wedgie

10a
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
FA class really drops off quick.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 2:20 PM ET
"With a bullet, Toffoli had a re-birth in Vancouver"

I shot the sheriff
But I did not shoot the Toff-o-li
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 2 @ 2:35 PM ET
"With a bullet, Toffoli had a re-birth in Vancouver"

I shot the sheriff
But I did not shoot the Toff-o-li

- PT21

Would Ek know his name? If he didn't ask his friend, Kevin? (Allen)
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
Still don’t like Hall #1, very overrated.

Gems at 11-15?
Then why so far down this goofy list?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 2 @ 4:08 PM ET
Vats Certainly is a game changer for the team... He’s the gift that keeps on giving.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:56 PM ET
If he didn't ask his friend, Kevin?
- gergeswillems



Excuse me, that's not my name.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 5:06 PM ET
Still don’t like Hall #1, very overrated.

Gems at 11-15?
Then why so far down this goofy list?

- Nighthawk



You have some good two way players in your top 6, (but to my limited knowledge), Horvat is a defensive liability isn't he. Why not have Toffoli and Pearson flank Horvat! Both are (or at least used to be when with Carter a few years ago) stellar 2 way players. I remember when Briere centered Pomminville and Hecht, two very good defensive forwards, and that line was pretty good on both ends of the ice.

EDIT: Briere was an atrocious player on his end of the ice otherwise, always lolly gagging near the blue line for that breakaway pass.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 2 @ 6:03 PM ET
You have some good two way players in your top 6, (but to my limited knowledge), Horvat is a defensive liability isn't he.
- PT21

Well, that definitely supports your preface of limited knowledge Respect to you for conceding that beforehand, but Horvat is definitely not a defensive liability. He's at least a good two-way player and, during his best seasons, is a damn good one. He's a player I respect and enjoy as a fan of a rival team.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 6:17 PM ET
Well, that definitely supports your preface of limited knowledge Respect to you for conceding that beforehand, but Horvat is definitely not a defensive liability. He's at least a good two-way player and, during his best seasons, is a damn good one. He's a player I respect and enjoy as a fan of a rival team.
- MaximumBone



Fair enough

I had general impressions of a high skill player who was weak in his own end (I stand corrected then) and then I looked up how Toffoli was doing based on what Ek wrote and found this for Horvat

(how come a good 2 way player has never finished a single season on the + side of the ledger)?


68 13 12 25 -8
82 16 24 40 -30
81 20 32 52 -7
64 22 22 44 -1
82 27 34 61 -4
69 22 31 53 -15

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 2 @ 6:19 PM ET
Fair enough

I had general impressions of a high skill player who was weak in his own end (I stand corrected then) and then I looked up how Toffoli was doing based on what Ek wrote and found this for Horvat

(how come a good 2 way player has never finished a single season on the + side of the ledger)?


68 13 12 25 -8
82 16 24 40 -30
81 20 32 52 -7
64 22 22 44 -1
82 27 34 61 -4
69 22 31 53 -15

- PT21


+/- is mostly meaningless and tends to be more relative to the team you're playing on than saying anything about you as a player.

There are so many events that go into a goal against that you can do everything perfectly and end up a - if your teammates suck.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 6:42 PM ET
+/- is mostly meaningless and tends to be more relative to the team you're playing on than saying anything about you as a player.

There are so many events that go into a goal against that you can do everything perfectly and end up a - if your teammates suck.

- BINGO!



I know, I know.

But over the long run, good defensive players should have that even out, unless they are on a bad defensive team.

With some digging:

This year, Pettersson is +16, Miller is +11, Broeser is +, Tanner is +, Pearson is marginal -, Horvat is the very bottom and by far the worst in the top 6.

BUT, his relative Corsi and Fenwicks are both + recently, though the absolutes of the two are both below 0.5
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 6:47 PM ET
You have some good two way players in your top 6, (but to my limited knowledge), Horvat is a defensive liability isn't he. Why not have Toffoli and Pearson flank Horvat! Both are (or at least used to be when with Carter a few years ago) stellar 2 way players. I remember when Briere centered Pomminville and Hecht, two very good defensive forwards, and that line was pretty good on both ends of the ice.

EDIT: Briere was an atrocious player on his end of the ice otherwise, always lolly gagging near the blue line for that breakaway pass.

- PT21

Bo gets top line match ups. Not a liability but can improve a bit.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 7:02 PM ET
Bo gets top line match ups. Not a liability but can improve a bit.
- Nighthawk




(skulks away)
jonny4gets
New York Islanders
Location: Ozone Park, NY
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:33 PM ET
This has been bugging me with all these "experts" saying Vegas is blowing up with COVID. Here are some numbers...
Nevada: 13,300 now... 10,000 2 weeks ago... 7,500 a month ago
Ontario: 35,000 now... 32,000 2 weeks ago... 27,000 a month ago

Out of 3 million people living in Nevada, those numbers are very, VERY low. There is no "blow up".
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 7:36 PM ET
This has been bugging me with all these "experts" saying Vegas is blowing up with COVID. Here are some numbers...
Nevada: 13,300 now... 10,000 2 weeks ago... 7,500 a month ago
Ontario: 35,000 now... 32,000 2 weeks ago... 27,000 a month ago

Out of 3 million people living in Nevada, those numbers are very, VERY low. There is no "blow up".

- jonny4gets



Ontario has about 5 times as many people as NV. They have almost identical increases in #s in the past fortnight.

This means the rates of infection are about 5 times as high in NV in the last 2 weeks.
Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Its Danielle Smith & Scott Moe vs the WEF/CCP backed criminal tyrants, game on! 🤠, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:36 PM ET
If Habs land Laffy maybe that entices a Hall and/or Hoffman to tag along for the ride






bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:50 PM ET
Chuck is taking a hard pass.

This UFA field only for pathetic loser organizations.