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Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jun 26 @ 11:04 PM ET
It does but you nullify the risk of 55 playing 25 min a night.

Henrique IMO could still be a fine 3C for 2 seasons

- sbroads24



I get what you and Pachla are saying. But I feel like two separate deals can be made to avoid having to take that risk.

They could probably move Risto for picks, and then deal other assets for a temp 2nd line centre.

the net spend in assets is a bit of deficit but still better than taking on Henrique's contract with so much uncertainty around the cap.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:12 PM ET
if they take Drysdale in a couple years he is anchoring that blue line. who is going to be complaining ? no one.
- wingz4life


This guy gets it.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:15 PM ET
I thought he had a good season and they like him in his 1b center role
- Michael Pachla


Henrique:
1 of 2 offseason trades I actually see the Sabres involved in.

The other : josh anderson
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:22 PM ET
Is that the league where Berglund is a goal scoring dynamo? Dahlin really showing how good that league is too. The 7 goals he scored in his best year has translated to the NHL. Would be nice if Dahlin decided he wanted to start being a difference maker sometime soon. All bark no bite. Just like the SWEHL. Dude never finished. Would dazzle and shoot into goalie’s leg pads. Move him to 2C and find out if he is Foppa 2.0. Or pack his bags for a 2C.
- Hatboro_Swords



Dahlin, 8 and okposo

Pick 3, 5 , brady tkachuk and boroweicki
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:28 PM ET
I consider it a fair hockey trade
- Michael Pachla



You better check with homie.

He had henrique as a buy out candidate.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:29 PM ET
I get what you and Pachla are saying. But I feel like two separate deals can be made to avoid having to take that risk.

They could probably move Risto for picks, and then deal other assets for a temp 2nd line centre.

the net spend in assets is a bit of deficit but still better than taking on Henrique's contract with so much uncertainty around the cap.

- Michael Ghofrani

The next two years are basically a wash with risto gone. Two years from now you might be payin big dollars for a 3rd C or a top-six winger with Cozens on tne final year of his entry-level deal developing in a mid-six center role
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
Henrique:
1 of 2 offseason trades I actually see the Sabres involved in.

The other : josh anderson

- Boss34

I like that too. Shouldn't cost that much either
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
This guy gets it.
- SDSabre

cracks me up on how people run on emotion. players arent even picked yet. wings got screwed!!!not really because the bottom 8 teams have a 24.5 percent chance to pick #1 the wings had a 18.5 percent chance to pick #1.

Again, if Rossi turns out to be a 90- 100 pt player down the line for the wings there wont be one person saying man the wings got screwed!
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:32 PM ET
Dahlin, 8 and okposo

Pick 3, 5 , brady tkachuk and boroweicki

- Boss34


Ottawa hangs up on that
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:36 PM ET
didnt colorado lose the lottery a couple years ago and get Makar. man im sure people are still upset today about them picking Makar. what a screw job! poor Colorado!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:38 PM ET
didnt colorado lose the lottery a couple years ago and get Makar. man im sure people are still upset today about them picking Makar. what a screw job! poor Colorado!
- wingz4life

It might ultimately depend on the organization....COL and DET have better orgs than say OTT and BUF
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:42 PM ET
didnt colorado lose the lottery a couple years ago and get Makar. man im sure people are still upset today about them picking Makar. what a screw job! poor Colorado!
- wingz4life

I mean, you’re still getting an excellent player but the system sucks.

The Sabres have been in the lottery for a decade and move down almost every single year.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:43 PM ET
It might ultimately depend on the organization....COL and DET have better orgs than say OTT and BUF
- Michael Pachla

comes down to ownership. Yzerman and Sakic. they run it. they dont have wacky owners who think they know better then everyone else.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:44 PM ET
I mean, you’re still getting an excellent player but the system sucks.

The Sabres have been in the lottery for a decade and move down almost every single year.

- sbroads24

my opinion is the sabres have their two studs. now they need to hit in the second round and beyond. they havent done that and their suffering.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:05 AM ET
my opinion is the sabres have their two studs. now they need to hit in the second round and beyond. they havent done that and their suffering.
- wingz4life

Agreed 100%. Still don’t like the lottery system.

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:15 AM ET
It might ultimately depend on the organization....COL and DET have better orgs than say OTT and BUF
- Michael Pachla


Colorado has made many picks in the top 10 also.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:29 AM ET
I get what you and Pachla are saying. But I feel like two separate deals can be made to avoid having to take that risk.

They could probably move Risto for picks, and then deal other assets for a temp 2nd line centre.

the net spend in assets is a bit of deficit but still better than taking on Henrique's contract with so much uncertainty around the cap.

- Michael Ghofrani


I personally wouldn’t use the 8th overall pick. Hopefully this is the last time we pick top 10. I would use the 2021 first rounder no question along with a combination of Risto/Montour as well as well as Mitts/Thompson.

I’m sure we can find somebody that could help now
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:10 AM ET
I personally wouldn’t use the 8th overall pick. Hopefully this is the last time we pick top 10. I would use the 2021 first rounder no question along with a combination of Risto/Montour as well as well as Mitts/Thompson.

I’m sure we can find somebody that could help now

- Pegullaville

I’d have a hard time passing up Cirelli. Hertl is risky, I know our blogger agrees.

Personally, if I’m Adams/Pegula, I legitimately ask Eichel what he wants. Seriously. Sounds super dumb, but I need him happy over ANYTHING else
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:17 AM ET
I’d have a hard time passing up Cirelli. Hertl is risky, I know our blogger agrees.

Personally, if I’m Adams/Pegula, I legitimately ask Eichel what he wants. Seriously. Sounds super dumb, but I need him happy over ANYTHING else

- sbroads24


I agree. I just believe with the situation other teams are in we can acquire talent without using pick 8.

Perhaps I’m wrong. Hertl worries me as he is coming off a major knee injury and needs a contract in 2 years if I’m not mistaken ?

I would think TB would move Killorn, Palat, Johnson, Palat before moving Cirelli but who knows really.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:20 AM ET
I agree. I just believe with the situation other teams are in we can acquire talent without using pick 8.

Perhaps I’m wrong. Hertl worries me as he is coming off a major knee injury and needs a contract in 2 years if I’m not mistaken ?

I would think TB would move Killorn, Palat, Johnson, Palat before moving Cirelli but who knows really.

- Pegullaville

Yeah I doubt Cirelli is even available but he’s the caliber player I’m targeting
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 3:21 AM ET
Done. Give Montour a 2-3 year deal 4 mil and he can be the 2/3 RD.

I want Jokiharju playing serious minutes next year

- sbroads24


No thanks. The bloom is off the rose for Montour for me.

If a team really likes Montour and has quality forwards they're willing to offer, I'd be listening and taking the best deal.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 3:22 AM ET
The next two years are basically a wash with risto gone. Two years from now you might be payin big dollars for a 3rd C or a top-six winger with Cozens on tne final year of his entry-level deal developing in a mid-six center role
- Michael Pachla


Okposo's contract would also be up at that point.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 3:25 AM ET
I’d have a hard time passing up Cirelli. Hertl is risky, I know our blogger agrees.

Personally, if I’m Adams/Pegula, I legitimately ask Eichel what he wants. Seriously. Sounds super dumb, but I need him happy over ANYTHING else

- sbroads24


You aren't getting someone like Cirelli for the 8th overall. Hell, you wouldn't get someone like Monahan either.

The best you're going to get is a risk like Hertl, and there's no way in hell I'm giving up the 8th overall with the quality of forward that will be available for Hertl with his injury history.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 7:15 AM ET
Gerbe

What type of player is Raymond?

Holtz?

Perfetti?

Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:10 AM ET
You aren't getting someone like Cirelli for the 8th overall. Hell, you wouldn't get someone like Monahan either.

The best you're going to get is a risk like Hertl, and there's no way in hell I'm giving up the 8th overall with the quality of forward that will be available for Hertl with his injury history.

- kingcong39



Then you add to #8.

They can't keep waiting for these kids.

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