Yes, a year ago. Do you believe both players still have comparable value? I do not.

Askarov can be great, but they cannot pass on Rossi or Holtz in favor of Askarov if Rossi and Holtz are available at 8.
- kingcong39

Idk maybe the jets want him still ... i agree with the forwards but I wouldn't be upset if we drafted askarov

Yes, a year ago. Do you believe both players still have comparable value? I do not.

Askarov can be great, but they cannot pass on Rossi or Holtz in favor of Askarov if Rossi and Holtz are available at 8.
- kingcong39

I'll be stanning Holtz until the draft. Which I assume means we'll pick Raymond, because Rossi won't be there.

Idk maybe the jets want him still ... i agree with the forwards but I wouldn't be upset if we drafted askarov
- gerbe75pts

This place would become the Josh Allen draft day extravaganza.

Today, we stop paying Ville Leino and Tim Murray.

Yes.
And Joker is still very young to couple with another very young Dman on the 1st pairing.
In time, I too can see him being Dahlin's partner..or, better yet Joker anchors the 2nd pairing for a long time.
Find a strong defensively aware Dman partner for both, prosper.

I could see Joker playing 2nd pairing minutes this season, to allow his development curve to continue on. This is why I am adamant about trading both Risto and Monte. Joker and Miller are fine for 2nd & 3rd pairing. Monte and Risto are not 1st pairing dmen.
- IonSabres

Remember that one time we got a top 4, 20 year old dman for Alex Nylander.

You seem obsessed with the bolded above, without knowing if it's true or not, and the truth is we won't know until we see the moves the team makes in all avenues (players drafted, trades, and signings) and the results of the team that will follow.
- kingcong39

crowe's resume includes:

--1 yr.-plus as a scout in the ushl
--2 yrs. dir of player personnel for usntdp of the ushl
--3 yrs. as a pro scout for the sabres

some people are better as worker bees...some are better as managers...some can make that transition...others can't

you're right, we don't know what the future holds for crowe and it could very well be a great move...however it's a big jump just from pro scout to director of that one department, now they've got him in charge of two departments when we don't even know if he can manage people in one at the nhl-level...that resume and those factors indicate, to me, that he's in way over his head

Today, we stop paying Ville Leino and Tim Murray.
- TheSabresTaco

So that means money for Dudley today

I'll be stanning Holtz until the draft. Which I assume means we'll pick Raymond, because Rossi won't be there.
- TheSabresTaco

Raymond would be a steal..

Holtz will bring back memories of vanek if only he could master the around the world move

So that means money for Dudley today
- gerbe75pts

not necessarily.....


John Wawrow
@john_wawrow
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13h
More mixed messaging from PSE?

Understand there’s now some unhappiness over all the dead money contracts suddenly on the #Sabres books.




Seems like people at the top of PSE are not quite pleased that there is so much dead money on the books now.......

Remember that one time we got a top 4, 20 year old dman for Alex Nylander.
- TheSabresTaco

buttah today

not necessarily.....


John Wawrow
@john_wawrow
·
13h
More mixed messaging from PSE?

Understand there’s now some unhappiness over all the dead money contracts suddenly on the #Sabres books.




Seems like people at the top of PSE are not quite pleased that there is so much dead money on the books now.......
- ImThatGuy

Maybe he will work for free like Milton..

If they don't get someone to help Adams out just kiss jack goodbye

not necessarily.....


John Wawrow
@john_wawrow
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13h
More mixed messaging from PSE?

Understand there’s now some unhappiness over all the dead money contracts suddenly on the #Sabres books.




Seems like people at the top of PSE are not quite pleased that there is so much dead money on the books now.......
- ImThatGuy

Suddenly?

Coho and Ehrhoff were bought out like 5 years ago

not necessarily.....


John Wawrow
@john_wawrow
·
13h
More mixed messaging from PSE?

Understand there’s now some unhappiness over all the dead money contracts suddenly on the #Sabres books.




Seems like people at the top of PSE are not quite pleased that there is so much dead money on the books now.......
- ImThatGuy

apparently they didn't fully understand the fallout from the nuclear device they dropped on the organization...

also makes me wonder if botts got wind and took care of as many as he could before getting the axe...i think greeley and sexton got extensions and i thought i read wear taylor was close to one

Raymond would be a steal..

Holtz will bring back memories of vanek if only he could master the around the world move
- gerbe75pts

I really don't see how you go wrong at pick 8 with any of the forwards. Or Drysdale if he makes it that far. It feels like 2019 with Dach, Cozens, Byram, Zegras, Turcotte, Caufield, you're getting one of them and you can't lose (at time of draft).

This handful will be Stutzle, Raymond, Perfetti, Rossi, Drysdale, Holtz and Lundell all with picks 3-9. Plus you know Detroit is going to go off the board. Any one of those guys would be a gift.

it seems as if adams and krueger are on somewhat of equal footing right now....if they brought in duds to handle player personnel, would he be considered on equal footing?...is that what a flat organization does?

not sure
- Michael Pachla

I find this flat organization concept for the Sabres to be interesting.
When first used as an organizational concept in business so many years ago, the flat org concept was directly connected to a directive to "get closer to the customer"; where levels of supervision/management were reduced so decision makers could "hear"the customer more directly.
In the Pegula's case, it seems they have tipped that upside down so that their flat organization means that they, the Owners can better be heard. If they were competent hockey minds, this would be great. But in this situation where they have literally botched the org through their directives, well, it doesn't bode well for The Sabres, IMO.

Hiring Dudley without giving him control would certainly fall online with a Flat Organization concept, while implementing a Wide Organization where the Pegula's make more decisions...because they are the smartest people in the room and it has gone amazingly well for 9 years.

Makes me think that an ape with a suitcase full of money could have succeeded in the fracking business.

not necessarily.....


John Wawrow
@john_wawrow
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13h
More mixed messaging from PSE?

Understand there’s now some unhappiness over all the dead money contracts suddenly on the #Sabres books.


Seems like people at the top of PSE are not quite pleased that there is so much dead money on the books now.......
- ImThatGuy

Oh rearry

Saw that yesterday. I reiterated that the Pegulas are morons.

I really don't see how you go wrong at pick 8 with any of the forwards. Or Drysdale if he makes it that far. It feels like 2019 with Dach, Cozens, Byram, Zegras, Turcotte, Caufield, you're getting one of them and you can't lose (at time of draft).

This handful will be Stutzle, Raymond, Perfetti, Rossi, Drysdale, Holtz and Lundell all with picks 3-9. Plus you know Detroit is going to go off the board. Any one of those guys would be a gift.
- TheSabresTaco

It picks the forward in the first round or else it gets the stool again

apparently they didn't fully understand the fallout from the nuclear device they dropped on the organization...

also makes me wonder if botts got wind and took care of as many as he could before getting the axe...i think greeley and sexton got extensions and i thought i read wear taylor was close to one
- Michael Pachla

They don't get extensions without ownership approval. More dysfunction, more wiping their ass with money.

I find this flat organization concept for the Sabres to be interesting.
When first used as an organizational concept in business so many years ago, the flat org concept was directly connected to a directive to "get closer to the customer"; where levels of supervision/management were reduced so decision makers could "hear"the customer more directly.
In the Pegula's case, it seems they have tipped that upside down so that their flat organization means that they, the Owners can better be heard. If they were competent hockey minds, this would be great. But in this situation where they have literally botched the org through their directives, well, it doesn't bode well for The Sabres, IMO.

Hiring Dudley without giving him control would certainly fall online with a Flat Organization concept, while implementing a Wide Organization where the Pegula's make more decisions...because they are the smartest people in the room and it has gone amazingly well for 9 years.

Makes me think that an ape with a suitcase full of money could have succeeded in the fracking business.
- IonSabres

good take...especially the ape part

https://www.diebytheblade...__twitter_impression=true

They don't get extensions without ownership approval. More dysfunction, more wiping their ass with money.
- TheSabresTaco

tbn had a piece that said both agm's got extensions before terreee and kym dropped their bomb

crowe's resume includes:

--1 yr.-plus as a scout in the ushl
--2 yrs. dir of player personnel for usntdp of the ushl
--3 yrs. as a pro scout for the sabres

some people are better as worker bees...some are better as managers...some can make that transition...others can't

you're right, we don't know what the future holds for crowe and it could very well be a great move...however it's a big jump just from pro scout to director of that one department, now they've got him in charge of two departments when we don't even know if he can manage people in one at the nhl-level...that resume and those factors indicate, to me, that he's in way over his head
- Michael Pachla

Analogy time: When you were chosen as Sabres blogger, some could have thought of you as in over your head, but all it took was a few consistent quality blogs to see that was not the case.

All I'm saying is before we make an assumption, let's see what moves they make and go from there. Let's judge based on the results and not assumptions.

tbn had a piece that said both agm's got extensions before terreee and kym dropped their bomb
- Michael Pachla

Few months ago. Still, what changed on the ice to go from, let's move forward with these three, to, they need to be fired.

for those wondering what GMTM is up to:

"Now 56, Murray left hockey reportedly to go to Florida and tend to race horses."

From the BN yesterday

Analogy time: When you were chosen as Sabres blogger, some could have thought of you as in over your head, but all it took was a few consistent quality blogs to see that was not the case.

All I'm saying is before we make an assumption, let's see what moves they make and go from there. Let's judge based on the results and not assumptions.
- kingcong39

benefit of the doubt given, but it doesn't change my perception of his starting point...

peace